Bathroom layouts...which is better ( if either )

[bobkate]

We are in desperate need of redoing our bathroom. It's quite small 2110 x 1770, with a quite a large, low window.
We currently have a bath running along the back wall underneath the window, with a shower over the top. The shower curtain gets pulled across the window. There is a loo ( that is on it's last legs flushing wise ) and a sink.
I'd really like a stand alone shower but my DH loves baths so I'm trying to find a way to get it all in.
I'm thinking that the doorway is taking up a lot of space - so I am hoping we'd be able to put a pocket door in instead.
Which of these layouts do you think would work the best ( if any ) or would it all look too cramped?
If you have any better suggestions they'd be gratefully received!

[3boys3dogshelp]

I think your very first layout was best but have a look at an offset quadrant shower cubicle, either 900x800 or 900 X 760. Get a cubicle with a single door opening from near the doorway so you can use the space around the doorway to step out of the shower.
I think you have all the things too close together at the moment, especially on the one with the toilet in the corner. We tried that and ended up having to ask the plumber to swap around toilet/sink/cupboard to be able to sit on the toilet!!
Second the advice to look at a combined toilet and sink unit as that would help to free up floor space.
We refitted our main bathroom to add a shower cubicle. Some of the measurements were a bit tight but it looks fab and I'm glad we went for it now.

[user1469117700]

option 2 but swap the showe and toilet as it will open up the room

[titchy]

I might be slightly over invested here! But this is our bathroom. The depth is the same actually, but we're at 1900 width. The bath is 1600 in length because of the boxed in pipework, and we have a big sink. Hope this helps!

[magicstar1]

bobkate It's funny the amount of people who ask about the bath getting wet when we shower...it actually doesn't, but ure it's a bath so really wouldn't matter. I find I often give the bath a quick spray down anyway, as it stops it getting dusty if DH hasn't had a bath in a while.
I think you could make the room feel bigger if you go without a full shower enclosure, and just put up an L-shaped panel between the toilet / sink and the bath. That way it would look very open, but you would still have a space between the sink and bath for a towel rail / laundry basket etc.
I'm so sad I did a drawing lol.

[namechangedtoday15]

OP - if you google Concept Space, you can download a brochure by Ideal Standard. Not advocating their products (have never used them) but the brochure might give you an idea of how to play with the space - there are quite a few plans with your dimensions (approx. 1.7 x 2.1) and how they suggest laying things out - even using that range which is obviously space saving. Might be worth a look.

[daro]

You can have electrics on a pocket wall. I have a pocket wall downstairs. One side is in the kitchen the other is in the downstairs wetroom. The kitchen side has a radiator and light switches. The wetroom side has the shower attachement. So we have something on both sides. Maybe my pocket wall is thicker to make that possible but i havent noticed that.

Would you not go full bath accross under the window? I think the might room looks lopsided if it doesn't run the full width

[Boulshired]

I find when dealing with such small spaces masking tape in the room itself helps. Plans never really show the tightness in between. My SIL toilet is so close to bath it cannot be cleaned properly.

[FrogFairy]

I have two suggestions.

Could you steal a bit of room from a bedroom so that you could cut through the partition wall and have the shower set into an alcove in the bathroom?

I love magicstar1's wetroom style shower. If you did something similar, I wonder if rather than a fixed glass partition whether you could have one that folds away and you just pull it out when you want to shower. I have no idea if such a folding glass screen exists but it would help to maximise floor space .

[MovingOnUpMovingOnOut]

I think your space is too small for separate shower and bath. If you go for a p-shaped bath with shower over it you get the benefit of both and keep the space. Cramped bathrooms are always disappointing.

I would go for layout 2 with a shower bath running down the right-hand side. That would also mean you don't need to move the plumbing for the loo. It also means you can put your sink on the opposite wall and have a mirror above it which you can't do if the window is there. You may find putting a partition between loo and shower is a good way of hiding pipes but you will need good lighting for the loo.

I also agree about the masking tape.

[WorkingBling]

Your layout is similar to ours although a bit bigger, although our "long" section is the wall with the window. To have a good bath and shower, we just fitted a normal sized bath in, with a generous "P" to make the shower good too. The bath runs down the wall on the far side from the door, with the P finishing on the wall with the door. The basin and toilet are under the window. Trying to draw a picture. You could try that. Or, because your long side is quite a bit longer, you could conceivably have the bath and toilet or basin all along the wall with the window and the toilet/basin where our "P" is. Drawing a picture...

[WorkingBling]

Here's our bathroom. I think the side with the bath on it is about 1.8 metres (the p-bath is an unusual 1650 length). the side with the basin etc is a bit longer at about 2.1 metres

[NotMeNoNo]

I suggest look up the Ideal Standard Space range which has a lot of options slightly redesigned to take up less room including some really good shower baths. brochure

How about you have the shower bath next to the door, the wc at the end of it sideways to the window, and the sink at the other end of the window. That way you can have a proper shower screen etc. Apologies if this has been suggested up thread.

Don't forget in a bathroom you need space to move, dry off, etc.

[bobkate]

Wow - so many fab suggestions and great points. Thanks and titchy thanks for being over invested! I really appreciate everyone's drawings and ideas.
I've just found these online... m.youtube.com/watch?v=MK5XRzZghrI.
So now I'm wondering about this for an option....The shower part would be more wet room style - with the curved folding screen being able to be folded back when the shower is not in use?

[bobkate]

frogfairy thank you - it was you that made me google and find those! Can't steal any from the room next door sadly!

[FrogFairy]

Lots of folding wet room screens here, if you scroll down they have hinged folding screens that would fold away very neatly.

www.unishower.co.uk/hinged-wet-room-shower-screens.html

[bobkate]

chishandfips yes - wrt the height of the soaking tub, yes we'd have to check the height. I think it would be close. I don't know how to really accurately measure the height as the bath is in the way! I've measured to the top of the bath and then the gap in between the top of the bath and the windowsill but not sure quite how accurate it is.

[bobkate]

Yes frogfairy that was the site I came across. I have bookmarked!

[minipie]

Sorry but I'd go with shower over bath as well, like NotmeNoNo's suggested layout. If you get the right bath and a nice glass screen it's as nice as a shower cubicle (and better than a cramped shower cubicle IMO).

Bette Ocean is an excellent bath for showering in as has big internal volume and one straight sided end. Or one with a step out like ChishandFips showed.

I really think a generous bath with shower over, and plenty of floor space left to move around, is a much better outcome than a compromised bath and shower and no elbow room anywhere.

[bobkate]

Thanks mini
Just had a minor epiphany whilst in the shower....
So I'm thinking this could until you prove me all wrong be totally possible.... .... ....
Folding wet room door so that it doesn't matter that the shower is next to the window - the door won't block the window as it can be folded back flush to the wall.
The toilet remains in the same position. Because there's no shower tray it would give more of a feeling of floor space. Drying could be done in front of the sink using the bath as a perch, which is what I do now.

[MovingOnUpMovingOnOut]

I think that's just too much in the space.

[namechangedtoday15]

Don't the doors have to be at least as high as the shower - so how do they fold back as you have them (the shower head would be in the way)?

What are the dimensions of the bath you are considering?

[bobkate]

namechange this is the bath we were looking at www.bathroomexpress.co.uk/acatalog/Pegasus-Minorca-Deep-Soaking-Bath-8-Jet-Pneumatic-Whirlpool.html. So 1200 x 760..
Looking at the video it shows the shower head above the height of the door but again, these details I will be looking into more.
moving on I actually think this last plan would make our bathroom feel bigger than it is now. But, until I fiddle around with the finer details, then I won't really know if it's possible.

[namechangedtoday15]

Is this your forever house Bobkate, and if its not too personal a question, do you have children or are you contemplating children? For me personally, it doesn't work, I think you have too narrow a gap between the sink and the bath (about 50/60cm) which means most people would need to turn sideways to get to the shower but its far too cramped to be a family bathroom when you're trying to get babies / little children bathed and dressed. If its your forever house and you're not bothered about selling it on, then do what suits you and get that lovely big tub installed. If its not though, I'd be wary about making changes that will limit your market.

[bobkate]

chishandfips if it's not too cheeky to ask, would you mind taking a photo of your soaking tub next to your window and posting it or PMing it to me. You say it's a little higher than the sill - just wondering how it would look being as high as the window sill? Ta.

[bobkate]

namechange - thanks so much for your feedback - it is appreciated. I'll come back later..been playing in bathroom using laundry bin as potential sink, etc but got to dash out in a mo ( to collect the kids! ). Will be back later on.
A huge thanks in the meantime for those of you who are helping me thrash out the big points, before I've even got to the hard bit of tiles/loo style/etc!