What do I do?

[ImaMummyof3]

I'm a Mummy of 3 - Twin boys, who are Five (They just went into year one) and a little girl who's three. I work at the school my Sons go to (I work in the reception - Answering calls and sorting files) Today I heard my boys teacher screaming at the top of his voice at them in the hallways. I don't know the full story but I do know I wasn't comfortable with the level or the tone of his voice

After school I went to talk to the teacher about it, he told me it was none of my business how he disciplined my children. I said it was every bit my business if I could hear him, and ushered my boys out of his classroom, it's now half past five and all they've been saying is how they don't want to go back to school on Monday - What should I do? The headteacher of the school is useless, should I take it to the Governor's of the school or the police

Many thanks in regards
Hannah - A concerned Mummy of twins

[2014newme]

The police???
😂😂😂😂

[Norestformrz]

I confess my TA shouted at two boys in my class a few weeks ago... they were posting torn up paper into the electric heater in the classroom. Dangerous? Potentially. Requiring exclusion? Certainly not.

[BeingATwatItsABingThing]

BubblesBuddy

Did you read my comment about a boy about to put a plastic bag over his head? I was across the classroom and it was during a DT lesson so the class were loud (he’d brought some materials in for him to use which is why he had the bag). Yes, I shouted. That was the only way to stop the boy doing something so ridiculously dangerous. He didn’t need sending to the head.

[GreenTulips]

Lets see

Paper towels in the hand dryer
Climbing up the window ledge to escape via the windows window
Throwing stuff to break windows
Peeing in the floor
Using (whatever) to strangle another child
Steeling sweets from the Goody jar
Fighting
Climb in tables
Grabbing a teachers boobs
Running/skidding while a member of staff was carrying something Harvey
Lots to choose from

Year 1's are oblivious to anything else going on around them! They forget where they are and what they are doing

[BubblesBuddy]

Hhhm. Can't say I have ever heard of any of the above happening in my DCs school and I would be horrified if it did. Plastic bags in a classroom? Really? Do you not have health and safety inspections? Sounds like mayhem and not an educational environment to me. Any of the above would have resulted in a child going to the Head. Still not shouting. It is the teacher losing control of their emotions.

[user789653241]

It's kind of weird that such a hysterical tone of op to no response at all.
I really don't like the people who start a thread than don't come back.

[Feenie]

Plastic bags in a classroom? Really? Do you not have health and safety inspections? Sounds like mayhem and not an educational environment to me

Ofgs, I've never read anything so ridiculous!

[user789653241]

I can remember once I came into the school to pick my ds up from after school club and heard TA shouting my ds's name. It was surrounded by all the hubbub of children doing some science experiment. He wasn't paying attention. I thought nothing of it. TA just needed to raise her voice to be heard. Ds wasn't traumatised to go back to club either.

[Crumbs1]

I tend to side with the teacher. None of your business if he shouted over the children to be heard or to get them quiet. Children can be naughty or loud and silly. Whispered negotiations might not be effective and are too time consuming for a class of thirty. Children survive teachers shouting very well.

[jamdonut]

If a teacher was shouting all the time, day in day out, then, yes, something wrong there.
But some of you have a very strange idea of the reason for using a loud voice. Sometimes, ( and it will , literally, be sometimes) a sharp, loud, rebuke is needed to get everyone's attention. I would absolutely love to see how some of you who think only talking in a quiet, lovely voice is the way to get children to do things, would get on in a classroom situation.
I'm quite sure that the majority of you had teachers who occasionally shouted. I do not believe you were all traumatised by it!
If one of my teachers shouted, it was because someone , or the whole class, were not behaving as they should and had overstepped a mark.
I really can't believe some of you never ,ever raise your voices at home, either.

[jamdonut]

And as for the not having plastic bags in the classroom BubblesBuddy , really??? What sort of school does your child/children attend, that they never have plastic bags around?

Do they ban small objects, like play money at their school, because I've had to tell children off for putting things like that in their mouth. Should we ban maths equipment, just in case? Also, rubbers, hair bobbles, blu-tak, pen lids, etc,etc...?

[MrsKCastle]

Today I heard my boys teacher screaming at the top of his voice at them in the hallways.

Jamdonut, this does not sound like 'a sharp, loud, rebuke' to get attention. It is absolutely necessary for teachers to raise their voice sometimes, but not to scream! I can see that the OP may have been exaggerating, but I don't really understand why so many people are jumping to defend the teacher. It may have been a loud attention-grabbing shout to prevent something dangerous, but it may also have been a teacher crossing the line. It does happen, and if that is the case it should be dealt with.

[Norestformrz]

One persons screaming at the top of their voice is another’s shouting or even speaking loudly it’s a matter of perception (and of course intended effect of writer to get their point across)

[MrsJamin]

You need to consider how your colleagues will see your objectivity as a staff member if you take this any further.
Also, do you really introduce yourself to strangers by calling yourself "Mummy"?

[BubblesBuddy]

Small items are in boxes or trays. With very young children, plastic bags are a hazard and are not allowed in the classrooms. Common sense really and the bag over the head incident is easily avoided. Had the child died, I can assure you the Health and Safey executive would probably find against the school and fine them. Plastic bags and young children don't go together when there is limited supervision. I am amazed anyone defends plastic bags in classrooms!

Small items obviously exist as teaching aids. They are not avoidable but plastic bags are.

[user789653241]

"One persons screaming at the top of their voice is another’s shouting or even speaking loudly it’s a matter of perception"

I experience this everyday with my ds!
Everything he doesn't like, he says I 'm shouting, when I am definitely not.

One scenario:

• Ds playing game-
  Me: Bath is ready.
  Ds: ......
  Me: Can you have a bath now please? (In a normal voice)
  Ds: Stop shouting!
  

[corlan]

You should call the police and report the teacher for possesion of a shouty voice in the vicinity of a mummy.

[user789653241]

corlan, I think op has got message by now, that she may have been a bit ott.
We can all be sympathetic and give her a sensible advice. Take the mickey out of someone isn't very nice, especially it's not AIBU.

[GraceMC]

No matter what, you can't win.
I suggest that you just leave it, it's hard, but if you arrange a meeting with the HT, you will get more upset, you know exactly he is gonna say.

[Ploppie4]

Head first. Because that will be the complaints procedure. Email so it’s in writing

Then in a couple of weeks if unhappy. Governors by email.

Then finally if unhappy LEA OFSTED and so on

[BeingATwatItsABingThing]

With very young children, plastic bags are a hazard and are not allowed in the classrooms. Common sense really and the bag over the head incident is easily avoided. Had the child died, I can assure you the Health and Safey executive would probably find against the school and fine them. Plastic bags and young children don't go together when there is limited supervision. I am amazed anyone defends plastic bags in classrooms!

Did you deliberately miss the bits where I said he was Y5 (so 10yo) and that he had brought the bag in with some plastic bottles for a DT project. I can’t Police what the children bring in. I did not just hand him a bag or leave one lying around.

And obviously there wasn’t “minimal supervision” as I stopped him before he put the bag over his head.

[Norestformrz]

Many of my five year olds bring PE kit or wellies in a plastic bag from home.

[CurlyhairedAssassin]

You see, OP, most decent parents, upon hearing their child being chastised or shouted at by their teacher, would instantly wonder what their child had done to deserve such a telling off. And their concern would be that THEIR CHILD HAD MISBEHAVED, not that the teacher had shouted too loudly at them, for it.

Do you really do paid work there, as I’m finding it quite hard to believe you have such an unprofessional attitude if you’re in a paid role. You have waded straight in there without finding out what misdemeanour your precious children had done.

[Norestformrz]

If the OP works in the school she should be aware if the teacher is know to shout for no reason or if this is unusual ...