gender fluidity in primary schools -- parents beware!

[xennophon]

There is a huge danger here for every parent with a child in primary school. Justine Greening, herself a member of LGBT, is trying to indoctrinate children compulsorily with relationship classes, which will include the 'information' that changing gender is normal and easy so why don't you try it? She is caving in to every demand from the trans activists. If a child shows any interest in the toys or games or clothes usually associated with the other sex they will be invited to 'transition', which will probably lead in due course to hormone drug therapy and possible surgery. Sane medical voices urging restraint and therapy are to be silenced as 'transphobic'.I have told her that she will brainwash my 4-year-old daughter over my dead body. Parents, beware! Some schools are already inviting students to dress as for whatever gender, or one , they choose. This is the madness of 'true gender', a lunatic concept invented by the trans lobby whereby gender is no longer a biological fact but a notion in the head. Compassion and respect for trans people, yes, definitely, but at the same time recognise that rejecting one's body and saying 'I am really the opposite gender to what I was born with' is dysfunctional (that is why the pathology is called 'gender identity disorder'). Greening, in a fog of horrid 'political correctness' is determined, ISIL-like, to push her pernicious ideas into the head of every child, regardless of parents' wishes or feelings. All this to make trans people feel a little better about themselves, and to hell with the lives of our children. Be on guard. Make your voice heard.

[busyboysmum]

Personally I'd be keen to allow kids to play with whatever they want and wear whatever they want. But I wouldn't be encouraging a healthy child to go down the route to puberty blockers and hormones and surgery. I'd be encouraging them to love their body the way biology intended it to be.

[user789653241]

My ds is kind of boy who actually likes most boys don't and seems not to care about what others think.
He has long hair reaching his lower back. But that hairstyle was inspired by very masculine protagonist in his favorite game. He is mistaken as a girl 99% of the time by a stranger, but he doesn't seem to care.
He was a only boy in sewing club. He didn't want me to get rid of his dolls house that he played when he was younger until recently.
He loves cooking and can cook simple meals like spag bol.

But he identify himself strongly as a boy.
I don't think he will ever get confused if he was a boy or girl.

[sirfredfredgeorge]

The refusal to believe that gender is socially routed and not recognising that it can be distinct from sex is to my mind very harmful. If you fully acknowledge that people can present in ways which differ to their sex, and accept ie not be bothered and not correct when people get it wrong because it actually doesn't matter what sex or gender you are to anyone but yourself.

If though, you're told to change how you present, or told you can't act or do things because you are particular sex, then it becomes a much bigger thing to personally to deal with. Hence the important thing is again back to brilliotic's words, The way forward has got to be to step back from gendering everything.

[xennophon]

Sorry. I now see that my question about gender , meaning of, has received quite a few answers already. Thank you ( not hat I actually understand them though)

[Slimthistime]

OP that's part of the problem I know
I just see gender as attributing particular habits to boys and girls - which is a social construct.

the difficulty around language with this is immense, not least because some people use "gender" as a polite term for "biological sex"

[Lifechallenges]

Is OP mad or the Daily Fail???

[scottishclive]

Why is this a topic is schools? Kids should be taught to treat eachother with respect and not to judge if someone likes to do things that are normally associated with the other gender / sex.

For the small minority of kids who feel they are the wrong gender (which i guess would be tiny for primary age) we need to respect them / dont judge. But i assume its so rare that is should not be a topic.

[Backingvocals]

OP isn't mad I'm afraid. Lots of talk on the feminist board about this atm. A few charities making their way into school to talk about anti bullying (Good) and then moving onto the idea that chikdren who don't particularly fit their gender stereotype maybe trans. Highly reductive (girls like dolls. If you are a boy and you like dolls then you must be a girl). The whole trans ideology is very worrying and should not be anywhere near schools.

JG has rather naively backed what is essentially self certification of gender (so a man can basically get officially reassigned as a woman without surgery or hormones but basically because he feels like it). Huge implications for women's safety.

Also increased pressure on children who don't feel at home in their own bodies (that's many kids particularly during puberty which is a tough time for all) to conclude that they are in the wrong body and need to change sex via surgery and hormone blockers in the teen years. As opposed to accepting themselves as ,e.g., girls who don't like girly stuff.

This thread and the Times article referenced in it are a good staring point.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3041152-i-am-janice-turner-s-no-1-fan-another-excellent-article

[Lifechallenges]

The nature of the post was very alarmist. I suspect a LOT of schools with totally ignore it, if not the majority. Tons of schools don't even allow DDs to wear trousers in the first place. I can't see faith schools of any religion doing it either...
Schools need to treat kids equally first lol

[busyboysmum]

Another article by the Times today:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mermaids-uk-charity-ban-as-boy-forced-to-live-as-girl-dvx3j99cn