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Upsetting reception report

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mia1972 · 07/07/2017 21:55

Hello ladies,

I am sure I am overacting and being 8 months pregnant with hormones all over my body doesn't help but I am having a terrible time with my son's school.

The background is that he is a summer born and very young one. He was moved from his reception class where he had settled well, and this is probably the origin of all of this upset. So the previous school was tiny village school and very nurturing. He was one of 2 boys and we thought it would not work long term so we took a view - probably mistakenly - to move him to a comprehensive down the road where some of his friends were going to help have a broader circle.

What I didn't know is that the new school had 20 boys and 10 girls and some of the boys are quite 'physical' - to cut a long story short, settling in was much more difficult than we envisaged, my son got picked on quite a lot, he got thrown around the playground, teased, excluded. Not by one child but by the group. And no amount of talking to the teacher has made a difference, she denies this is happening at all (although I have seen this in the playground myself and many other parents have expressed concern about the 'vibe'). So you can imagine that this has created quite a settling in process and has affected him. For example I see him walk to some children in the morning in the playground and trying to be friendly and being given the hard shoulder most times.

Now his report today really upset me as there is no acknowledgement of the difficulties he's been having. My son never had social issues before and the report says: 'his social communication skills are improving' and that, given more time they hope he will be able to make friendships. But have marked 'Making relationship' as emerging in his report. In a face to face meeting she told me that his listening was really good, and she has market 'listening' as emerging again. Finally, this one I expected as he is ambidextrous and hasn't chosen a primary hand, writing is also market it down as emerging, despite the huge effort he is putting into this.

As for reading, he reads fluently and by sight level 4-5 books and reads all the time, I had buy so many more books as the school could not keep up. His phonics are good and knows a large amount of tricky words. Reading for her is simply 'expected'. No mention of how much better he reads than the average (I went and read with the class).

I feel completely let down and deflated. Of course he doesn't know this and will never find out but I can't help feeling I made a huge mistake to move him and now there is no way to go back to the old school. I can only hope that the year1 teacher is going to be better at helping him integrate in the social environment. And also recognise that he has some strenghts.

Been sobbing all day and trying to work out if we can pull the finances together to send him to a small private school. I feel a complete failure today as a mom for inflicting this onto a 4 year old who is trying so hard but can't help being so young and new.

Sorry it's a really long post...

Thanks, any advice appreciated.

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Faithless12 · 10/07/2017 06:39

She has to say he is emerging if he isn't making any friendships and you've acknowledged that he hasn't made any.
Reading by sight does that mean he doesn't use phonics to decode new words? As once again that would mean he is emerging in the early years. Why do you think the school wasn't incapable of keeping up with his reading needs? It sounds as if they didn't believe he should be a higher reading level and so were keeping him on a level they believed was apporiate.

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smellyboot · 09/07/2017 23:27

I'd stick with the school now the move has been made but be on their case to support him. Only days now until summer break. To me even a one form entry school is tiny.(ours is 3 form each year) A class of a handful of children (old school) may help short term, but wont do him any favours long term. Resilience is a key skill too.
My DS is Sept born and has done well in reception. But this time last year he could barely hold a pencil - yet if he was 4 weeks older he would be finshing year one now.
He has mastered all the stuff reception kids have to achieve but thats entirely due to the fact he is old for the year and ready. If he'd been a summer born and in last years reception class he'd have been at the bottom of the class for everything. He'd still be reading the same books as now I'm sure and would be in the bottom reading group not the top..
So throw out the reports and focus on his emotional support etc

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allthosewhowanderarenotlost · 09/07/2017 22:50

Previous post should have said - boys are not that interested in writing in Reception.

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allthosewhowanderarenotlost · 09/07/2017 22:47

Reports are generally written with software which allows for copying and pasting of appropriate statement. This is probably how the report was written due to the slightly generic nature of it. The points about curriculum reflect his end of year results rather than him personally and the statements are selected based on this. If he was emerging in those areas it would be an area for concern also comments about his social skills etc tend to be more personalised.

Boys frequently are not that interested in writing in year one and you could probably accomplish any booster work you wanted through working with him at home.

If there was a concern it would have been flagged in the report, try not to worry.

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Secretescape · 09/07/2017 22:36

Emerging, expected and exceeding are the scores that reception staff have to give at the end of reception and are measured against a national standard that is heavily scrutinized and moderated.
A child who is "exceeding" is basically operating at year one standard.
The description for reading exceeding is:

Children can read phonically regular words of more than 1 syllable as well as many irregular but high frequency words. They use phonic, semantic and syntactic knowledge to understand unfamiliar vocabulary. They can describe the main events in the simple stories they have read.

This has to be at a level beyond that which the average reception child can read on a consistent basis.

There are also caveats - if a child is emerging in one area moderators would look for evidence to prove they could be more than emerging in other distinct areas.
Eg if a child is emerging in understanding their reading will be scrutinized as this is dependent on understanding.
Similarly with speaking and any goal that specifies "talking about" learning and understanding.

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C0untDucku1a · 09/07/2017 21:46

I would really put his name down at the original school. Twenty boys in a co-ed class is huge.

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nocampinghere · 09/07/2017 21:38

oh and yes these days they will always err on the side of under reporting achievement. if they don't they can't report progress which affects ofsted etc.. seriously these teachers have a nightmare balancing act. What a job. Angry

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nocampinghere · 09/07/2017 21:36

Primary school reports are mostly written by computer program and/or with a lot of copy and paste in my experience. And mine is a brilliant primary.

Hope the social side settles down. Reception can be a lot of "play" and boisterousness. The age difference between autumn and summer born children is huge. I found this got better in yr1 and completely settles down by yr2 when they have all matured a bit and the days are more focused and calm rather than play based.

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MiaowTheCat · 09/07/2017 21:30

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Moominmammacat · 09/07/2017 21:27

Please chill (easier said than done). 20 years ago that could have been my DS in reception .... below expectation in everything, especially scissor skills (really upset at that one). Next term, he starts his PhD. xxx

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BubblesBuddy · 09/07/2017 19:09

You are expecting far too much maturity expecting "friends" to stick by him. They are very impressionable and children do not understand what is pleasant and unpleasant behaviour and many will not have developed a protective trait. They may well gravitate to the stronger and more dominant children. Moving schools does not necessarily extract you from children like this because this is 4 year old behaviour. They are not making mature decisions.

I think you are desperate, perhaps too desperate, for your child to do well and be recognised as doing well. It may be better to calm down about reports and just keep going. Progress in school is easier to demonstrate if the child starts from a conservative assessment. You may well find progress accelerates next year.

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cestlavielife · 08/07/2017 21:01

Please don't tutor unless he has identified special needs...and nerds specialist intervention
He is just four right ?!
Give him time .
Don't push writing.
Just build it into play e.g. chalks at home...
Find a nurturing school and let him be

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mia1972 · 08/07/2017 08:31

than you ladies you have really made me feel better.

and yes it is also case also of immaturity and the fact that your ds came along when friendships had been made. He is the sort of kid that will still shout 'doggy!! in the street' IYKWIM The upsetting thing is that there are friends there that he has had for year - at least two - who are now seeing him being teased and picked on and they are doing it too.

At the moment I have the number of one of the TAs in y1 that tutors young children after school (I'm surprised they can do this TBH) and was thinking of getting her to help him with the writing - if nothing else so that somebody knows him well in that class and understands him. Other than that I will speak with the y1 teacher but also planning to quietly go and see other schools as things might come up you never know. I really don't want to move him as it is so stressful but if the bullying doesn't get better I definitely will. I thought about home schooling funnily enough until a place comes up but with a new baby I can't see how that would work,

Thanks again

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user789653241 · 08/07/2017 07:18

Bullying is a concern, but those who you consider as bullies are still young children, who are learning social skills. So they may change as they grow. Some of the boys who seemed like a bully when they were in reception are now quite well behaved and nice boys in yr4 in my ds's school.

About the attainment, it's nothing to do with how good the child is in the class, but it's a tick box system against national target, as pp said.
So being a summer born could be a disadvantage in reception.
But in few years, they will catch up. And by yr3(KS2), it's not obvious who is summer born and who is winter born regards to their ability.
He seems to be doing great, those who try hard will definitely progress really well.

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HeteronormativeHaybales · 08/07/2017 06:39

Re Einstein - he got less than sparkling school reports IIRC Grin

He's of an age where a lot of kids in other European countries won't be in school yet for another couple of years. One of mine was 6 and the other was 3 weeks off being 7 when he started. Reception is just that - the dc are being received into the school system. If you think about a reception in a building, it's where you come into a place, start getting used to it, someone welcomes you and gives you directions to go where you need to, and you're not expected to know your way around. There's a reason it doesn't have a year number. I wouldn't worry at all about levels etc at this stage.

I would, though, be worried about the social situation and the school's reluctance to deal with the aggression, and would be strongly considering a move back to the small school. I get that just 2 boys may not be ideal but there are up- as well as downsides to this sort of setting.

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littlebillie · 08/07/2017 06:38

Don't worry about the report, especially in reception. If you are going into year 1 go in and get to know the teacher and ask about all your worries. Often voicing them at school puts them into context x

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autumnboys · 08/07/2017 06:32

It sounds like he's doing very well! I hope next year's teacher is more willing to tackle the social issues. If they're not then I would escalate it to the head.

With regard to the emerging/expected/exceeding measures - i think they're complicated. Ds3 has really struggled with reading. He had some eye issues diagnosed as he started in year 2 in September and a treatment plan put in place. As a result he has gained 2yrs 9months of reading age this year. His progress was marked as expected because his reading age is still (just) below his chronological age.

I hope you have a lovely weekend & that the end of term goes as well as possible. Enjoy the summer!

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Zoflorabore · 08/07/2017 06:29

Year one is completely different op. Much more structured and less time for play.

My dd is in year one and the difference in a
year is staggering.

The issue here though is the interaction with the other children. If you truly think he is being bullied then please do not let it go.

Speak to the teacher and also the head.
This could be a case of immaturity and the fact that your ds came along when friendships had been made.
I am in no way excusing the behaviour but just wanted to give you a different angle to explore.

Hope it gets better Flowers

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TheBakeryQueen · 08/07/2017 06:22

He sounds absolutely lovely! And if they took into account his age then of course he is exceeding with his reading. I wouldn't worry about the report.

I wouldn't send him back there in September, it doesn't sound like a good school at all and his emotional well being is far more important than anything else.

Like another poster said, put him on the waiting list for the original school. Can you homeschool him until a place comes up?

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Squishedstrawberry4 · 08/07/2017 06:11

My concern would be the bullying and not the report. You know he's academically able and that will shine through with time.

Some schools have a lot of rife Untackled bullying and are often in denial about its existence. It can be deeply ingrained. Alternatively it might be that the reception teacher has no handle on her classes behaviour so just lets it slide. If it's the later, issues can be dealt with by talking to the head. If it's the former, move schools.

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Squishedstrawberry4 · 08/07/2017 06:02

My reception teachers gave only partially reflective reports too and It was very clear that the reception teacher didn't know them. All mine could read excellently too. Teachers do get it wrong sometimes or err on the side of caution. Try not to take it understanding personally

If your son is being assaulted in the playground and the teacher is failing to act, then speak to the head. List all the incidents and outcomes to date. If that fails you can always make a complaint to the governors about how badly incidents are dealt with.

Could you talk to the year 1 teacher in September and explain to her about the other boys in the playground.

Also invite gentle boys he likes for play dates.

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shouldwestayorshouldwego · 08/07/2017 05:27

A class with 20 boys who are already showing billying traits may be a difficult class for some years. I would (without telling him) put his name down on waiting list for the original school and some surrounding schools but check out the classes before you commit to them. You don't need to make the decision yet, look around them yourself and if and when a place comes up then assess the situation.

I wouldn't worry about the academic side at the moment. He is still only 4. Keep supporting him but unless there are substantial issues they are unlikely to do anything beyond normal classroim interventions until 7. Just like crawling and walking children aquire these skills at different stages. Dd didn't walk until 15 months, by 6yrs she was winning hurdles races. She didn't read fluently until nearly 7, by 11 she was getting marks over 110 (or whatever the cut off was) in all her SATs. He is doing fine in school, some of it is to do with what they have observed and a quiet, well behaved boy won't get as much attention if they are busy extinguishing other fires all over the classroom.

It might sound counter intuitive but I would put his name down for Beavers, that really helps them develop some friendships out of school. They can start when they are six but there is often a waiting list.

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LovingLola · 08/07/2017 00:29

Is there a plan to alleviate the bullying for September? Is he miserable?

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mia1972 · 08/07/2017 00:26

But ultimately it's the bullying if we can call it this in reception that is making everything hard and the fact that it's making everything harder at this point. thank you again

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mia1972 · 08/07/2017 00:20

Thank you ladies,

And just to answer a couple of queries, no we can't move him back to the old school as the place has now been taken.

And yes reading and comprehension go together - I check both and read with him every day and have long conversation about the story in the book.

I think I just got really upset as the report is written in an abrupt way and it doesn't really say anything positive at all when I know my lo is trying so hard to do what is required.

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