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What to make of this report?

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Misstic · 27/11/2016 09:51

My DS is 5 and in reception. His maths report was on the lines of: DS can write number sentences and understands the symbols +, -, and =. He uses his 100 square to work out answers and is very quick at remembering number bonds. DS clicks very quickly with new topics. His english report was very good. Along the lines of DS has a fantastic phonic knowledge and is able to recall tricky words from memory. He reads fluently and can answer questions about what he has read.

His target is for maths is: to slow down working out written sums to ensure there are no silly mistakes.
His target for english is: to ensure he does not rush his written work and writes to his full potential

My question is, what does these targets mean? Apart from telling him to slow down, I can't see what these targets mean or are implying. How can these be targets?

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mrz · 29/11/2016 20:06

Not unless the school use them

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Misstic · 29/11/2016 15:27

Thanks Gin.

Mrz, I've not come across Tapestry or Target Tracker. Is this something I need to look into?

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Ginmummy1 · 28/11/2016 09:35

I, too, would expect each Reception report to record progress against the early learning goals. Each of DD’s Reception reports had a separate page listing the 17 early learning goals, with E, D or S (Emerging, Developing, Secure) against each (for the 40-60 month bracket). I would think these would be assessed regularly, and therefore providing this info is probably the easiest part of a report.

The written blurb is an opportunity for the teacher to write any special additional info, and it sounds like your son’s teacher has recognised that he’s comfortably above expectations in maths and literacy, and is providing suitable opportunities for him, which is great.

From what you say it sounds as though your son will be at least on track with the EYFS goals, but it seems surprising that the school haven’t offered this information as part of their report. You could ask the teacher now, but certainly if he gets a second report in the Spring that fails to provide this information, I’d be asking for this info.

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mrz · 27/11/2016 17:23

Many schools use digital assessment systems such as Tapestry or Target Tracker

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mrz · 27/11/2016 17:21

Nit sure why the link isn't working it's a much simplified version
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http://www.foundationyears.org.uk/files/2015/01/EYFSParentss_Guide-amended1.pdf]]




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mrz · 27/11/2016 17:17

Slowing down and taking care would come under dispositions and attitudes (prime)

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Misstic · 27/11/2016 17:15

I had a look at the linked document. It is very high level and I would say he meets these high level goals.

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Misstic · 27/11/2016 16:55

Thanks mrz and thanks pklme for the tips. I will try them.

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Misstic · 27/11/2016 16:51

Thanks Catkind, I could hug you. I was starting to get confused a bit but your explanation has helped. I do believe that if they are worried about him not having the right foundation they would say so. I had no idea that at his age number bonds, etc were not the main things they should be focusing on. It's good to know that but I began to wonder why they gave a report mentioning these things if they should be telling me about the other areas instead.

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catkind · 27/11/2016 16:46

mrz, link didn't work for me, maybe this one?
www.foundationyears.org.uk/files/2015/09/4Children_ParentsGuide_Sept_2015v4WEB1.pdf

I think to some extent we have to assume that a teacher is listing "cutting edge" abilities, there wouldn't be space in a short report to list every single EYFS box that has been ticked. They wouldn't be talking about the child knowing number bonds and writing sums if they didn't know how to count things or couldn't follow an instruction, they'd still be working on counting things with the rest of the class and wouldn't have done the sums when asked.

OP, I really think you can trust school to have it covered. There's no sign they're worried, there's a number of signs in my opinion that they've noticed your child is able and are encouraging his abilities. I'm suggesting you look at EYFS and curriculum info not to check he has basics covered, but to reassure yourself that school are on the case and probably giving him a bit extra. If you want to know how he's getting on against age expectations though there's no reason you can't ask the teacher.

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pklme · 27/11/2016 16:28

At some point he will be taught skills like 'guesstimating', reversing the operation, and doing it twice to help him check his work.

In the mean time, asking him 'are you sure?' Is enough! Try and use positive language- take your time, rather than don't rush. It's hard to do several things at the same time, at this age. Writing neatly, and doing it correctly and doing it quickly ate three different skills. Ask him to focus on a different thing each time.

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mrz · 27/11/2016 16:01

I've posted a parents guide

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Misstic · 27/11/2016 15:58

For context, his school is a high performing school so I am assuming that if he had issues with his development and other foundation requirements that they would have raise concerns?

How can I check that he has the basics in place? Is it through the EYFS? If so, I'll need to look at it indepth this evening. I have never really looked at it in any detail before.

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mrz · 27/11/2016 15:04
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mrz · 27/11/2016 15:02

Don't most schools provide parents with an accurate overview of the curriculum?

I'd say essential foundation skills for maths is many steps back from knowing number bonds and if they aren't secure knowing number bonds us meaningless

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Ineverpromisedyouarosegarden · 27/11/2016 14:58

Mrz I didn't say they were the holy grail at this stage. I said they were the foundation stones for further maths development. Obviously in addition to thinking and understanding skills but you do need to break that down so the average parent can understand it.
Most parents haven't and don't need to have read the curriculum.

I think we are both trying to say the same thing. It is no longer about rote learning it's about thinking and investigating and using language both orally and written to record this.

I do have an issue with the reports though it's all very well listing what they can do but it's meaningless without reference to whether they are meeting expectations or not (individual tailored expectations).

Having said that (and I am not a teacher) they still do need to know their number bonds.

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mrz · 27/11/2016 14:20

EYFS is split into 3 prime and 4 specific areas of learning. The prime areas (communication and language, physical development and personal, social and emotional development) are considered essential to learning development and future achievement. So far from being considered the "holy grail" reading writing and number bonds are not seen as essential at this age.

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Misstic · 27/11/2016 14:09

What do you mean mrz?

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Misstic · 27/11/2016 14:09

I will look at the EYFS. I've found the advice from the responses here useful and I'll think about how to help him not rush things and to show his workings. Any practical advice beyond me just telling him to slow down and don't rush?

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mrz · 27/11/2016 14:05

The prime areas of the EYFS profile are not reading or maths for a good reason.

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Ineverpromisedyouarosegarden · 27/11/2016 13:43

I can't find the link but there was a study done on children of similar IQ and why their outcomes differed and the conclusions were things like self belief etc but also exam techniques like showing working out, checking work etc

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user789653241 · 27/11/2016 12:57

I can understand that you feel uncomfortable just getting kind of vague targets, but those are the ones need extra work, and easily learned if started early.
All the academic targets can be met quite easily by your ds, but trying not to make careless mistakes by checking your answers, writing answers neatly, showing all the workings, are the skills which determines how well advanced children can do better or not in the future.

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Ineverpromisedyouarosegarden · 27/11/2016 12:11

At this stage your Ds is learning the building blocks of his literacy and numeracy work for the future years. Number bonds and decoding tricky words are the holy grail. He can do both. Sit back and breathe a sigh of relief. He needs to realise how to check his work and stop making silly mistakes. The teacher wants him to slow down. That's all, no need for contacting teacher. Not all kids will be as good as yours the teacher will need her time for parents whose kids need extra support.

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catkind · 27/11/2016 12:03

You can look up the general EYFS targets for the end of the year on the internet. The Development Matters document is quite good I think. You may also find that there is some curriculum information on your school website that says what their targets are in general for this term?

I'm getting the impression our reception teachers are particularly hot on communication. We have been sent home among other things a copy of the EYFS goals and nearly weekly sheets detailing what they're working on with the class in general. Which your DS would be working well ahead of in the areas you've described.

There's a lot more to EYFS than sums and reading and writing though, hopefully your DS has targets for the other areas too.

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Misstic · 27/11/2016 10:53

Thanks Catkind you explained my concern better than I did. I expected something more specific.

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