Is Michael Rosen right? Is the sample SATS online the actual test

[KnotNora]

He's just posted that the KS1 test sample on the gov website is the actual test they are using?!

[Feenie]

That's what should be happening anyway:

Test packs should be opened in the test room when the pupils are ready to start the test

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/509074/KS1_TAG.pdf

[Carolyne740]

The tests in schools always must remain sealed until just before they are given out to the children - at my school we open then in front of the children.
If any moderators come in to check how the tests are administrated they ask to see all tests and expect to see them still fully sealed and intact.
Not worth opening them.

[mercifulTehlu]

Not quite all the time. And it may well have less rain than where I live (Lake District ). But that wouldn't be hard...

Anyway, the education system there sounds bloody brilliant (particularly in Finland). I keep meaning to start a thread to see if anyone has first-hand experience of it. Apologies for my Scandi-thread-derailment .

[mercifulTehlu]

Lucsy . It's one thing after another. Makes me want to emigrate. Preferably to Scandinavia.

[mercifulTehlu]

What a bunch of useless arses. How lovely that they continue to grind the teaching profession with their demands for data but can't actually administer the system effectively themselves.

[Feenie]

Yes, we know

[What1984]

On the today program today, confirmed that the test was on the DfE website, so is now useless, so that test cannot be administered this year.

[Feenie]

Er....according to the bit of the ARA you just quoted (which is the document on the website you are referring to), schools do NOT.

Schools are not obliged to report test results to parents in an annual report

Schools do have to do this on request, but it is not statutory to do so.

[Ellison8996]

6.4 Reporting test results
Schools are not required to report test results to their LA or the next school when a pupil moves. However, where the school has recorded this data it can choose whether to include these results in any data provided to the LA or next school (see section 10). LAs do not give test results to the DfE.
Schools are not obliged to report test results to parents in an annual report (see section 9). However, parents must be allowed access to their child’s results on request

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So I did some reading today and according to the government website they do have to give the test results!

[parrotonmyshoulder]

Plenty of evidence in books, in the way that SPAG should be taught and assessed - by actually using it for a purpose!

Year 2 teachers (I am no longer one but my DD is year 2), I hope many of you have been able to continue providing the rich and exciting curriculum that my DD's school has managed to and have not been forced to waste hours of precious childhood on nonsense.

[bearleftmonkeyright]

You couldn't make this shit up.

[jennielou75]

Yep so fellow year 2 teachers get checking those books as that's all the evidence you have unless you have purchased tests!

[Hulababy]

On BBC to; says SPaG test too, not just the spelling part.

[HarveySchlumpfenburger]

Yep. SchoolsWeek are saying the same.

I don't think they had much choice though.

Why do it this late at night? This couldn't have waited until tomorrow morning because...

[Feenie]

I can't cope with the lows and highs of tonight - first Prince, now this! It's like a bloody rollercoaster.

The dfe owe me and my y2 class hours of our lives back.

[Theimpossiblegirl]

According to The Telegraph it has been! I hope so. Shame so much of the year has been given to teaching the children to sit the test.

[soimpressed]

Has the SPAG test been cancelled for this year?

[mrz]

This is the advice from the NAHT
"The actual effect on schools in terms of accountability is minimal as the results of this test are not collected, reported, used or evaluated externally. The aim of the test is to inform teacher judgement. It does not feed into any progress or attainment measure. It is not used in any way.

But... the leak of the paper also renders the test absolutely useless. In particular, the government will not be able to set a meaningful benchmark score as it cannot reliably know which of the pre-trial schools did or didn’t use the practice paper. You and your staff have better things to do with your time than administer useless tests and I have today written to the schools minister requesting that he withdraws the test from use (without replacement). I will let you know the response."

If parents have questions, I think you can assure them that your teachers are more than able to form accurate judgements of their children's progress without the need for flawed tests.

[Feenie]

Just them - us mere mortals get them uploaded after May, I think.

[HarveySchlumpfenburger]

I've no idea what exactly it is but it's being talked about on twitter.

Have they sent the marks schemes to all schools yet or just to the ones doing them early?

[Feenie]

For fuck's sake!

[HarveySchlumpfenburger]

Apparently there's a mistake in the reading mark scheme.

I really hope someone's keeping a tally of these errors.