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Gender Disappointment

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ChicaMomma · 03/09/2015 16:14

I feel really awful typing this, the guilt is horrific and i dont quite know what i expect anyone to say!

I'm expecting my second (and last) baby, 17 weeks pregnant today. We have a gorgeous 14 mth old boy who we ADORE. This time i really really wanted a little girl, doesnt every mother want a daughter?

Tried all the tricks- DTD 3 days before ovulation, took calcium and magnesium etc, so when i got the BFP i was SURE it would be a girl, like 99% sure! Had her name picked, everything. Panorama results came back to show... A BOY! I ashamedly cursed on the phone when i got the results.

I feel extra guilt because i have SO many friends who are having difficulties TTC, so i know damn well they'd all kill to be pregnant with their second boy, but all the same i cant shake my disappointment. I'm also afraid that 2 boys so close in age will be stir crazy! How will we cope??!!

Anyhow, as i said, i'm not sure what i'm expecting anyone to say, just looking to put my thoughts down on paper more than anything. I guess i'm a bit worried too that i wont bond with the baby. I hope i will, i'm sure i will, but it's a worry.

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NoMoreRenting · 13/09/2015 19:28

Thank you, Mrsfrumble.
It just always made me twitchy but of course, like you say, it's not enough in itself you make you go ahead and have another. It certainly adds weight to the argument though! Grin

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Mrsfrumble · 12/09/2015 19:51

I understand what you're saying NoMoreRenting. I found some of the comments I got / still get about having one of each weird and presumptious. Even the woman who measured me for new nursing bras in John Lewis while I was heavily pregnant with DD and had toddler DS in his buggy, complimented me on being "clever" to have one of each, and "in the right order too"! Confused Confused

My mum, when I told her we wouldn't be having any more babies, said "well you don't need to, do you? You got everything you wanted the first two times", even though I'd never expressed a preference to her because I never felt one.

It does kind of make me want another, just to rebel against this perception of the "perfect nuclear family" which is probably to blame for so much of the gender disappointment parents feel. (Although not enough to actually do it!)

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TenForward82 · 12/09/2015 13:55

So, dove, I assume you had a child for the completely selfless reason that you wanted to give a soul a body to call its very own? You didn't have any hopes as to how you might bond with your child, or activities you might enjoy together, anything like that?

We all have kids for selfish reasons, because something is missing in our lives, we want something to nurture, we want to have a bigger family, etc.

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NoMoreRenting · 12/09/2015 13:18

My point was just that people post all the time saying they're going for a 3rd because they want a girl after 2 boys. Nobody acts confused. But say you're going for a 3rd because you had one of each and people give you the confused look. Likewise, have one of each and people say 'oh well done one of each.' Have 2 boys and nobody says ' oh well done, 2 boys.' It's ridiculous!

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MyGastIsFlabbered · 12/09/2015 13:06

I really don't care how many children people have or why they have them, it's none of my business. I was just Confused because of how you worded your post.

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TheDovefromabove56 · 12/09/2015 13:04

People who strongly desire one gender or the other need to really think about why they are having children in the first place. Its not supposed to be about what YOU get out of it. You might be able to have IVF abroad to determine the sex but can't then determine the child that you get. What will you do if your longed for baby girl wants to roll in the mud and play with trucks, or isn't remotely interested in being Mummy's shopping partner? Send them back?

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NoMoreRenting · 12/09/2015 12:36

Also, MyGast, would you also be Confused if someone said they went on to have a third to try and get a girl after 2 boys? But to try and get 2 boys after having BG seems unacceptable. But obviously we didn't just have a 3rd child to shock people but I was astounded at people's reactions.

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NoMoreRenting · 12/09/2015 12:30

Oh course that wasn't the only reason but I did hate that. How dare people make that presumption! And I also got lots of shocked faces when we announced we were having no3 and comments of 'why?' Which I found both shocking and rude.

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MyGastIsFlabbered · 12/09/2015 12:23

nomorerenting I must admit your post read a bit like the only reason you had a third child was because so many people had congratulated you on having one of each! Which made me a bit Confused

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NoMoreRenting · 12/09/2015 12:11

Nulla, how is it acceptable to go on to have a third because I have 2 of the same but not because I have one of each? I've tried to explain that
A) I hated all the ridiculous congratulations as if I'd got what everyone wants and what I must have wanted.
B) I didn't want to fall into a family trap/situation I have witnessed with friends where you pair off and do same sex stuff.
C) I wanted to have 2 boys or 2 girls.

It seems that people understand you going for a 3rd to get a certain family set up only if your first 2 are the same sex.

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NullaBore · 12/09/2015 10:37

NoMore you had a third dc because you already one of each? That is the weirdest reason I've ever heard to have another one.

Lots of people have a preference. My bf just told me she didn't want a dd as she didn't have a great relationship with her dm. Her dc2 was a dd and she is besotted. Is her reasoning any more/less valid than others?

Of course it isn't. Mn does my head with these threads sometimes, then the army of neutral colour brigade or better still dress your ds in pink and your dd in blue come along and l think fuck l actually don't know any mn in rl.

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jorahmormont · 11/09/2015 22:30

Glad to hear you've gotten your head around it Chica, these threads always attract an unnecessary amount of hate from people who can't seem to comprehend that people have different life experiences and different feelings to them.

When I was pregnant with DD, everyone was convinced I was having a boy. I didn't have a huge preference either way, but everyone had said it so much, referring to the baby as 'he' and 'him' that I had it in my head that we were having a boy (couldn't find out as the awkward bugger had crossed legs on the scan). When DD came out, I was surprised - but at the same time, I couldn't believe I'd ever thought she was a boy. I just felt like - well, of course it's a girl. I think if I'd had a boy, I would have felt the same - like, how could I ever have thought I was having a girl?

We're TTC #2 and I'm already anticipating the 'Ooh, bet you're hoping for a boy this time' and 'Will the family be complete' comments. Looking forward to telling them that as we intend to carry on to three or four regardless of the sex, our family isn't even close to complete Grin

Congratulations on DS2 and best of luck! :)

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ChicaMomma · 11/09/2015 13:22

EXACTLY mumofmunchkin! it's the social pressure to have one of each that is driving me crazy!! I can already see people's sympathetic glances when they hear the news... mind you, that's probably in my head!!
Everyone is askin gthough if we know the sex, and that they 'suppose' we are hoping for the girl, the RUDENESS!

nomorerenting that is funny, seems like we are damned if we do and damned if we dont.. You'll have to have a 4th now just to have 2 of each :O)

but yes i have definitely gotten my head around it now and am getting really excited about meeting DS2.

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mumofmunchkin · 10/09/2015 13:06

Really glad you're getting your head around it OP, you can't control your feelings, but once you meet your baby I'm sure you'll adore the sprog.

nomorerenting your post really resonated with me. We have a son, and are expecting mystery baby any day. I really don't mind whether it's a boy or girl, either will be masses of fun, but there is a part of me hoping for a boy simply because of the number of people who have asked me if our family would be complete if we had a little girl, or suggesting that as I have a son I must be secretly hoping for a girl Hmm, as if a second boy would somehow not be good enough.

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NoMoreRenting · 10/09/2015 12:30

Please don't say one of each is perfect. It was because I ended up with one of each that I went in to have another one. I couldn't stand all the 'haven't you done well' comments. It all seems too perfecty and needed another to stir it up. I think otherwise you get this fantasy perfect family where dad goes off to do rugby and mum and daughter to crafts or shopping. And they both become mini me.
It just wasn't the wild crazy messy never know what's coming next family life we wanted. Too calm and measured I think.

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Mrsfrumble · 10/09/2015 01:29

Oh, I'd love that Chica, but for various reasons we're done with our 2 (and would have been even if we'd had 2 of the same).

Watching the sibling relationship develop is such a beautiful, beautiful thing, whether they're the same sex of not. Mine fight like cat and dog at the moment (they're 4 and nearly 3), but yesterday they made a den under an old duvet and when I peeped in they were just lying quietly with their arms wrapped around each other. I was told to "go away and stop disturbing our kid time" Grin.

The first time your oldest holds the new baby your heart will just burst.

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AmberLav · 09/09/2015 18:21

I remember when I was expecting DC1, it was disappointed that all the omens seemed to be for a boy... That feeling disappeared as soon as they held up my little boy, with his boy's bits! I eventually realised that I'd had a subconscious area of 3 girls (as I am) and of course having a boy scuppered that! When it came to DC2, I honestly would have been happy with a second boy, and then a third boy for my third. dC2 is my gorgeous girl who is a total tomboy, and I am team surprise for DC3.

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OctoberCupcake · 09/09/2015 15:51

Just my two pence worth; I always thought I'd have a preference for a girl, until my closest friend had 2 boys. They're 20 months apart and they're AMAZING. Completely different personalities, cheeky as you like, loads and loads of fun. They're not even mine & I can't imagine them not being around. Best of all, hopefully, they'll grow up to be the best of friends.

Enjoy your darling boys OP!

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ChicaMomma · 09/09/2015 15:08

Absolutely, i think he will love having a brother. Plus they can go to the same school, infact i've just emailed both our chosen schools to get 2 enrollement forms!

having said that all his favourite pals in the creche are girls :)

1 of each is perfect though frumble! Sure you can go again to make sure that 1 or other of them has a same-gender-pal :)

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Mrsfrumble · 09/09/2015 14:38

ChicaMomma, would it help you to consider that if every girl wants a sister, every boy wants a brother too? So you're giving your son a lovely gift.

I have one of each, so obviously I've failed them both in that respect!

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ChicaMomma · 09/09/2015 11:41

GIddyup you are absolutely right- there is an element of stereotyping given my experiences (DS1 had some feeding issues as well as reflux, tongue tie, terrible sleeper etc) and people keep telling me girls have an easier time as infants. I've seen that first hand amongst my nieces and nephews too.
I guess in your case as well you were mourning on behalf of your daughter- as like that, every girl wants a sister, in an ideal world. Congrats on the safe arrival of DS3 and i really hope he is reflux free.. people keep telling me that it affects first borns the most, due to their more difficult journey through the birth canal, let's see if that theory is true. Clearly not in your case mind you if both 1 & 2 suffered!

tenforward dont worry, militants dont bother me. In life in general i try to be both honest with myself while being as sensitive as i can to others, but with media like the internet and what not, it's impossible to be PC all the time, people just have to deal with that reality unfortunately!

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ChicaMomma · 09/09/2015 11:30

blowinahoolie I think you're right, you get what you're given for a reason. that's what my mum said too- It was god's plan for you!! Congrats on your third little boy!

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Giddyupgumdrop · 09/09/2015 11:19

Your emotions and reaction are perfectly normal and valid and it is good that you are able to talk about them. Some people will understand and some won't.

I found I was unexpectedly pg with dc4 in Jan. I did not want another baby/child and although I am pro-choice I felt I had to continue with the pregnancy. I already have 2 x ds and 1 dd and was really hoping for another dd to balance the family and give my dd a desperately wanted sister. At the 20 wk scan I knew it was a boy before she said it and although I thought I wouldn't mind a whole load of emotions came flooding in.

My disappointment was not based on typical gender stereotyping but my experience of my boys (reflux baby, both soilers til 6) and grieving for the life we had. I also felt like a fraud having already had a daughter but I sought help and have had some wonderful counselling plus a good support network in place. I had a terrible delivery with my second ds and problems bonding with him for about a year. So there was a lot to my feelings and thoughts.

Baby is now a week old and those feelings are still there but have not affected my bond with him and I adore him.

Apologies for the long post but what I am trying to say is if you do feel you need support ask for it. Nobody will dismiss your feelings and it may help you prepare.

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ostrichneck · 09/09/2015 08:50

Yes chicamomma - that is my only comment - sorry you didn't get the attention from me that you are so clearly looking for.. Besides, you already know what you are thinking is wrong because it was your opening statement & entire thread so you don't need me to confirm or deny that. Although you do surprise me when you state that you realise it may be nice for your children to be the same gender, well done on thinking of them first this time.

Maybe your post would have drummed up less of an emotional reply - mind you, i'm sure that's what you were looking for - in AIBU. You are talking on a pregnancy forum where emotions are usually high.

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Cherryblossomsinspring · 08/09/2015 21:46

I think that no matter which you have, it's a little sad to say goodbye to the alternative image that you would have had in your head for the other gender. Even if you get your preference. But once they arrive, without you realising it, they never are exactly as you imagine as they all have individual personalities, strengths and weaknesses and are suddenly so real. Far more powerful than any image you had in your head if what the child would be like, male or female.

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