Poo crisis

[newby2]

Wee trained on potty no probs at 2.5 years but absolutely wont poo on it- have to out a nappy on. Any ideas?

[Harperseventy]

I'm in poo crisis! Dd 3.2 will not sit on potty or toilet for a poo. She has been potty trained since June and uses the toilet for wees. Is dry at night, hasn't had a nappy on for months. If she wants a poo she asks for a nappy. Never does it in her pants which I should be thankful for I suppose. I've tried bribery, not worked. She goes to nursery but always poos at home so it isn't an issue for nursery. Very frustrated! If i ask her to try sitting on potty or toilet she gets really upset so I don't really wanna push it and create negativity and her holding on to it! Will be trying pooland!

[Wolfiefan]

I'm afraid I resorted to bribery. We have trained (I think) quite late at 3. I waited for signs she was ready.
She did one or two poos in pants. We had a chat about how you can poo in a nappy but not pants. Went out and happened to spot a puzzle she wanted. Said I will buy it but you can have it when you poo on toilet. Hey presto!
Not saying I was right or it works for all kids.
Comfy seat. Often leaning forward with elbows on knees helped my two. Calm encouragement. Feet propped up on a step. (It's harder if feet are dangling!)
Toilet training is my least favourite stage. I've decided! Is it wine o'clock yet?!

[ItalianDiva]

Hello - so glad to have found this thread! My dd2 is driving me crazy with her pooing antics. She's nearly four and has been pooing in her pants since we started potty training her aged 2.5. Pees have never been a problem, by the way. I thought we had cracked poos about six months ago, but massive regression over Christmas has meant I am wiping little dry poos out of her bum on a daily basis. I am just totally miffed as to why this is happening. I think she is scared, but don't know why. She has done poos in the loo a few times, and she is always really happy and excited, but then days go by when she just does little ones in her pants. I then sit her on the loo but she refuses to do anything. Some days she does this about 7 times in the space of 12 hours. I think it is psychological as opposed to dietary. We tried mild laxatives for a while, but she still pooed in her pants. They were just a lot messier! Am really at a loss as to what to do next.

[littlebellsmum]

Yes - we appear to be sorted. All I can attribute it to is ?pooh goes to poo land? and a better fitting toilet seat at Grandmas. We have brought the same seat home, she seems more secure and while we don't get that much warning and sometimes a little bit in the pant, it seemns pretty much solved. Thanks for the tips, ladies i- one happy mummy and little girl here!

[sportswidow]

Hello, did anyone on this thread have any success they'd like to report? We are facing same issue with DS age 2.8. He's got the wees totally fine, so much so that he won't ever never wear a nappy. Which means he is pooing his pants x2 a day, generally standing up in his preferred poo place behind the sofa.

[CackleALot]

My 2.5yr old was exact same, no problem with wee but completely refused to poo in toilet. One day he did it and wee made such a fuss of it and gave him sweets afterwards that he was as proud as punch. That was a week ago and has been doing this ever since.

My HV suggested having treats in toilet such as bubbles so he could sit on toilet for longer periods of time. Also just watching for tell tale signs I.e. my ds would go and hide, if I noticed him doing that I would drag him to toilet! (if I caught him in time!).

He also started noticing that it was uncomfortable to poo in his pants, so i didn't rush to change him if he had done it (although didn't leave him for too long!)

Good luck!

[littlebellsmum]

serious progress here - now at Grandmas and has done another small poo in pants followed by one on loo. Then miracles of miracles - twice has asked to go to the loo for a poo and has done it . Hurrah - Poo Goes to Pooland strikes again

[NuzzleandScratch]

Oh wow, hope for us all! Well done to her! We've shown dd1 the video of Pooland online today, & talked about it at length, so hopefully the seed has been planted! Dh has promised to take her swimming if she manages it.

[littlebellsmum]

progress - hurrah. Small poo's in pants, followed by monsters on the loo! Is happy about sending her poo's to pooland . Is now Grandma's problem for a week as she is staying there on holiday.

Ps NUzzle - journey was fine. Never went to the loo once and no accidents either!

[NuzzleandScratch]

Nope, 'fraid not! Two soilings at nursery yesterday morning, & they've had to bin 2 pairs of her knickers there this week. I asked the teacher if she had any advice, and she just said that it'll come! She was perfectly confident in this, so I hope she's right! Best of luck with your journey today!

[littlebellsmum]

Hello - any success stories to share? We've now not had a poo since Monday - someone is withholding something me thinks. Ready to let go of it on our 4 hour ( probably snow delayed) journey!!

[littlebellsmum]

Nuzzle - we too get a bag from nursery. However, I'm think they are bit hacked off as they aren't bothering to even remove the solid bits - without doubt my favourite part of the day is emptying her nursery bag - NOT

No poo's at all today - thought we might have success at bathtime as she is prone to pooing in there ( has always done it). Being a good mummy, I came and showed her how to send poo to pooland(!) but still no poo. Big sister bringing in guinea pig for a cuddle didn't help much, mind!

Now, all I need to do tomorrow morning is to get her to accept the liner in her pants - she wasn't having any of it this morning but tomorrow as we all know is another day

[NuzzleandScratch]

LittleBellsMum, your earlier post made me laugh, with the 'bottom holding & denials'!

Same as you I'm afraid, same old. We've had the joy of a poo in 3 parts today! Always at home though (or nursery), so there is a degree of control there. We haven't had a chance to look at Pooland yet, so will report back on that. The only thing that worries me is that we obviously tip the poo from her knickers into the toilet, so not sure the Pooland via the toilet thing will make sense, as they're already going in there.

I've also tried talking about her friends who are trained, saying 'so and so does his poos on the toilet, isn't he clever, you could do that couldn't you?'. She says yes, then carries on as before.

Nursery seem unfazed by the whole thing, just hand us her dirty knickers in a bag each day! (well, most days).

[littlebellsmum]

Another day, another load of poo to clean. Nursery is trying a new tack - DD2 now has her own poo potty that she has chosen. Clearly didn't work today.

Was thinking about putting in dry like me pads but the nappy liners might be better - if nothing else, they might protect the clothes a bit. I might even have some in her drawers from the real nappy days.

Anyone else have any success or poo to share today?

[QTPie]

Thanks for this thread -will try pool and and poo party.

DS has been dry since half term (end of October): he was a very quick learner doing wees on the toilet. But he just won't poo on the toilet: he ALWAYS does them in his nappy at nap time or night time (the only two times he wears nappies). He doesn't do them in bed (generally) - he does them standing out of bed (after I have done all of his bedtime routine and left him to settle). He will be 3 years in about a week. He doesn't poo in his pants (which is a relief!)

I am getting quite (inwardly) frustrated. Literally every nap/night-time, I remind him "do you need a poo?" "no!", then I walk away, get as far as my bedroom and hear him grunting... Then I have to go back and change his nappy. We have a nanny two mornings a week (she puts him down for his nap) and he doesn't poo when she does it [hhm]

We do talk about it - he knows hat he should do it I'm the toilet. He has the control (clearly). He has been offered EVERY bribe under the son (won't bite). Have shown him his dirty nappy (fascinated and not revolted).

Arrrrrgggghhh! So capable, yet so stubborn! A sign of things to come, I am sure....

[Fresh01]

I tried poo goes to Pooland and it didn't help. DS reminded me at the weekend of something I told him "poo gets to go to the poo party" basically you talk up that poos done in the toilet get to go to a poo party and have jelly, ice cream, cakes, play games, have balloons etc etc they get to pick what happens at fictional party. But when you or daddy or older siblings go they make a big deal of their poo getting to go to a poo party with balloons, cake etc and how much fun it will have. Must have stuck in DS's head as for the first time in weeks on sat he said "poo in toilet it gets to go to poo party"

[SweepTheHalls]

I used real nappy liners in his pants, the feel of them seemed to remind him when he needed a poo, and feel like a nappy enough to make him feel more secure. Bought a pack in Boots for next to nothing, and after 9 months of accidents, sorted it in 2 days!

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

Poo Goes to Pooland here:

docs.google.com/file/d/0B30Isa46Anr2UXJKX3hocDVJbFU/edit

[littlebellsmum]

nuzzleandscratch - that is my life too. I showed poo goes earlier. She quite liked it and we have talked about it since. There has been lots of bottom holding and denials but no poos. Mine too will say no, no, no. Get stroppy when put on the toilet and then do it in her pants.

I will be showing her Poo goes at every opportunity - I don't believe that once will be enough!

[bettyspaghetti33]

Another one here who would be grateful for a copy of poo goes to Pooland :) is it ok to pm?

[NuzzleandScratch]

Good idea LittleBellsMum! After 8 months of pooey pants, I've just about had enough! Those of you who've had success with Poo goes to Pooland, did you keep showing it to them, or was once enough to plant the idea?

This was us earlier:
Dd1 wriggling.
Me: Do you need a poo?
Dd1: No
1 minutes passes
Me: Have you done a poo in you knickers?
Dd2: Yes

If you're wondering why I didn't whisk her off to the toilet at the wriggling stage, I was breastfeeding dd2, which is often the way. However, when I've sat her on the toilet at the obvious signs, she just withholds! She'll deny & deny she needs to go until it's out! If only she'd admit wanting to go, we might make some progress.

[GollyGumdrops]

Charlotte, many thanks for the pdf and I'll be happy to forward it on to anyone else who'd like it.

[littlebellsmum]

Lord be praised - it's not just my 2.5 yr old! My older two dc's never did this - dd1 (angel child) was potty trained at 2 yrs 8 months, dry day and night within weeks. DS was about 3.5 by the time he was trained and at 7 still has occasional accidents in the night. DD2 however , potty trained wees at 2 1/2, 2 months later refuses ( and it is refusal) to do poo's in the loo. Will not touch the potty and has said that she is scared.

The video is on you tube and so once DD2 gets back from the park, she will be watching the video. Maybe it might replace the balamory panto as her favourite watch - I don't ruddy care as long as it works .

Should we keep on the thread to try and preserve each others sanity?

[CharlotteBronteSaurus]

Golly - you should have your copy of Pooland now. Please would you be kind enough to watch the thread and forward it on if anyone else wants it?

[GollyGumdrops]

Charlotte, please would you mind emailing me a copy too if I PM you my email address? I'm having terrible problems with my dd (2.10) withholding her poo. She'll only go when she absolutely cannot hold it in any longer, sometimes up to 3-4 days, and then she'll only do it in her nappy. It's very distressing for her, and it's driving us all insane.