Has Diane standing down affected as home secretary your vote?

[Dodie66]

I just wondered if Diane standing down as Home Secretary has affected the way you would vote.
I know several people have said they wouldn't vote labour with the prospect of her being Home Secretary

[BertrandRussell]

"White, blue-eyed Finnish nurses should not look after black patients)"

She didn't say that. She said that there were qualified nurses from the Caribbean who understood British society who would be more likely to be committed to staying in the country long term than young Finnish nurses coming to improve their English. But there is nothing some British people like better than the opportunity to call a black person racist.....

[YesILikeItToo]

for Radishal. Sorry to hear your story - impressed that politics is exercising you so much that you have shared it for the first time ever!

[StripeyCurtains]

Re the Finnish nurses I feel that anyone would have been hauled over the coals for that comment.

It's not so much the size of the house, I guess but the elitist aspect of it being in a gated development. I used to live near her and it was quite a posh set up.

[seoulsurvivor]

And as for living in a big house: what should she do with her money? I know if I had a decent job, I'd buy the biggest house I could.

[seoulsurvivor]

I just think that a lot of other politicians do similar stuff but it doesn't get brought up time and time again because they are white men and not black women.

Sending her son to private school was indeed shit, but to me, it doesn't affect her ability as a politician.

The Finnish nurses thing, I could see her point to be honest. She wasn't saying 'white people can never touch black people.'

I mean, look at the shit Boris Johnson comes out with and he gets way less shit than she does. It's just 'lol Boris is at it again' as he offends literally fucking everyone. That's ok though, cos he's a posh white guy.

[Radishal]

I developed a chronic disabling condition. I am not so arrogant as to think I can take on a job that I used to long for. My condition simply means I couldn't do it properly despite reasonable adjustments etc. Keeping on would not only have badly affected me and my family but it would have been terrible for the people I was in charge of and the public that they dealt with. I stepped back because it was the right thing to do. I have never made a big deal about it. This is the first time I have ever mentioned it.
I have no idea what DA's health problem is; I hope she gets better or us able to manage it.
It just disappoints me even more about her that she didn't act honourably and step back before now. And doesn't surprise me that JC has shown such poor judgment in keeping her in post.

[StripeyCurtains]

I want to know what it is about her that people don't like.

She has proven herself to be hypocritical (sent son to private school, live in a big house in a private gated development), her tone is often patronising, she has made racist comments (White, blue-eyed Finnish nurses should not look after black patients) and she has recently been ill informed and under-prepared (either through illness or for whatever reason). These are the criticisms that I feel do hold water. The other stuff is sexist, racist vitriol and should be ignored.

[StripeyCurtains]

I think the fact that Corbyn didn't step in earlier when she was clearly struggling is the issue here. It shows a lock of judgement on his part and that worries me. So, whilst before I wasn't sure this has definitely meant that Labour won't get my vote.

[LizTaylorsFabulousTurban]

It's interesting that it persists on a site where the vast majority of posts are written by women though. It's almost as if it's designed to discredit women...

[seoulsurvivor]

I want to know what it is about her that people don't like.

[PhilODox]

Theresa.

Same reason at school boys were Jones, carter, and Hayes, but girls were Karen and Tracy.

[LizTaylorsFabulousTurban]

Why is it Corbyn and Cameron, Nuttal and Farrin; but always Diane and Teresa?

[CupOfTeaAndAGoodBook]

i don't understand why Diana Abbott's poor performance in a couple of interviews would put you off voting Labour but nobody seems to have been put off voting Tory by Fallon, Hammond, Johnson and all the other Tories who've had bad interviews.......

Well because I want to take for granted that the people in a shadow cabinet are up to the physical and mental demands of the job, before I even start to think about their actual job performance. Also because someone who's apparently unwell and yet not doing the sensible thing in her own and her party's interests of stepping back, and even going so far as to put herself forward for interviews when her party won't do it, seems alarmingly unpredictable and irrational.

So yeah, for me its behaviour which goes beyond "incompetence" or "crap at interviews" or "I disagree with every word you're saying", and into full-blown irrationality.

[PortiaCastis]

The level of abuse Diane is subjected to us appalling

[YesILikeItToo]

No. I see what Jack is saying, but there is a story there. She didn't screw up that Sky interview because of a 'lack of media training,' an excuse I read yesterday. It was only her long experience of politics and media that guided her through it with any sort of brass neck. But the story of running the campaign with DA for HS on her current level of performance is not really about her. It's about Jeremy.

[user1486076969]

No....I'm not voting for a Home Secretary, I'm voting for a local MP?

[UrsulaPandress]

Yes I've read it. And whilst the abuse she had suffered is horrendous it doesn't alter my opinion of her.

[Bejazzled]

Absolutely not. She has stood down from campaigning not as H.S. So gawd no.

[PortiaCastis]

Have you all read Jack Monroe's blog on Diane? It's very good
There's a thread about it in active.

[BertrandRussell]

"I wasn't planning to vote Labour anyway, but Diane Abbott's recent poor performance was a pretty big reason not to."
I do find this interesting. i don't understand why Diana Abbott's poor performance in a couple of interviews would put you off voting Labour but nobody seems to have been put off voting Tory by Fallon, Hammond, Johnson and all the other Tories who've had bad interviews.......

[CupOfTeaAndAGoodBook]

It's been clear Diane was ill for some time but she's mostly been called incompetent which is not correct.

But it's really incompetent of the party not to have done something about it sooner. The most likely thing seems to me to be that she's wanted to continue and therefore has been allowed to. Corbyn should have better judgement than to leave someone who's not currently up to the job in post. It's played right into the Tories' hands.

I wasn't planning to vote Labour anyway, but Diane Abbott's recent poor performance was a pretty big reason not to.

[BertrandRussell]

"She'll be back when she recovers, so what difference does it make?"

Because she will have recovered...........

[Slimthistime]

Glad Jack
Monroe posted that

It's been clear Diane was ill for some time but she's mostly been called incompetent which is not correct.

[HopeYourCakeIsShit]

She'll be back when she recovers, so what difference does it make?

[Abitofaproblem]

No. She will be back and I am voting Lib Dem.