Anyone got a Patterdale Terrier ??

[IllegallyBrunette]

I am considering getting a dog this summer and was wondering if anyone had one of these and if so could you tell me anything about them ??

I have googled but there doesn't seem to be very much info around.

[trevortrevorslattery]

Gutted this is a zombie! I was so excited to come and share the Patterdale love

[CornflakeHomunculus]

ZOMBIE THREAD

I'm guessing the OP has made a decision one way or the other by now, this thread was originally posted nine years ago.

[Zaphodsotherhead]

What about a cross breed if you want a terrier? My other one is a Jack Russell/Border and, apart from a fanatical devotion to chasing rabbits, has always been a good dog. Just be aware that rough coat Jacks can have skin problems... as can their crosses, as I now know.

But I agree with PP, any dog is going to struggle if you leave it alone for long periods - you're going to have to do a LOT of walking (and don't trust the kids if they say they will 'walk it EVERY DAY!' They never do...)

[ThatsNotMyMummy]

Could you go to the rescue without the kids so you don't get the "what to take them all" issue.
You take them to meet the dog after you've picked the most suitable?
There are so many in rescues, you've got breed specific rescues as well as the likes of dogs trust, animal welfare trust and battersea.

That all said I think you'd struggle due to the length they would be left

[Gileswithachainsaw]

The only one I knew was absolutely untrainable. Utter nightmare. No recall whatsoever

[sparechange]

I look after one for 2 days a week, who is lovely and smarter than a typical terrier.
Needs firm boundaries and consistent training, so not really a first time dog.
They have a high prey drive, so a dog flap would be a bad idea because the dog would feel obliged to go out into the garden to protect it from squirrels and cats, which could be quite stressful for it.

There is no way at all that a beagle is suitable for you and I'm quite that you think you can afford to buy a labradoodle, but can't afford a dog walker once or twice a week.

Can't you get a rescue dog and use the money you would have spent on a designer puppy towards getting it a dog walker?

[ThatsNotMyMummy]

I know of two. Both lovely, however, they both chase small furries. One is a great rat catcher. Both struggle with other dogs.

I think they are lovely dogs, but I don't think they are an easy dog.

[Zaphodsotherhead]

I have s Patterdale bitch, 2 years old. She is noisy, energetic, intelligent, and frantically overactive. However I'm an experienced dog owner and home a lot in the day. She's mostly OK with our own cats, although will occasionally launch after one, and, because she is almost pathologically attached to me her recall is pretty good. But these are not beginners dogs - I don't honestly think any terrier is. You need something lazy, reliable and docile, and that is certainly NOT a Patterdale!

[Denn1stheMen1ce]

My cat has just been killed by a Patterdale Terrier. This same dog has killed an urban fox and gone for other cats - escaping from the lead, jumping fences and going in to other people's houses to get at their cats. My neighbour's Patterdale regularly escapes from their garden and goes 'hunting'. He can climb fences over 6 foot high, and digs under fences too. The sight of a small creature - a squirrel or bird sends it into a frenzy of barking as it hurls itself at the fence. It is definitely not suitable for town living where small children could easily be mistaken for prey in the eyes of a Patterdale. Please do not consider getting one of these dogs. Beautiful to look at they may be, and affectionate towards their owners, but also a huge liability and very hard work for their owners too.

[smartyparts]

The only Patterdale I have known became increasingly aggressive and had to be put down.

[avsbavs]

patterdales were bred to be very aggressive. they are notoriously hard to train and recall is extremely difficult to master unless you have one from a pup.

digging is also a traite for this breed

if you are a first time dog owner, i would stay away from these as they are little terrors (i have a cross myself!)

if you love terriers though, maybe a border?

hope this helps

[StripeyKnickersSpottySocks]

My neighbour's Patterdale will chase anything small and furry. Its caught and killed (wild) rabbits.

[Lovesdogsandcats]

Your ideal dog is not a terrier as they are too energetic and needs loads of exercise. A patterdale def no no (I have one). It is not on really to leave any dog for 8 hours solid, but certainly not a terrier! If you are going to get a dog and leave it 8 hours it is going to need a bloody good long walk /run on park with ball, before you leave the house, a nice bed to chill in with radio 4 left on for company, and preferable run of the house and access to windowsills to look out. And someone to come in halfway though day to let out for wees. Or a dog flap.

I reckon the dog suited to you is a cavalier king charles spaniel.

[NutterlyUts]

no prob. If you put dog breed selector into google you can narrow down some choices based on all sorts of critera too

[IllegallyBrunette]

Thanks Nutterly, will take a look at those.

[NutterlyUts]

Norwich Terrier
Norfolk Terrier
Bichon Frise
Chihuahua
Chinese Crested
Toy Poodle
Japanese Chin
Italian Greyhound
Beagle
Pug
Cocker Spaniel
Australian Terrier
Dachshund (all sizes)
Miniature Pinscher
Pembroke Welsh Corgi
Border Terrier
Boston Terrier
French Bulldog
Miniature Poodle
Affenpinscher
Cairn Terrier

Those are all in your size bracket, and would typically do ok left for amounts of time and live with a cat, as long as they had at least one longish walk a day. Most of them need minimal grooming - the terrier types would need shaving twice a year, the poodles/bichon would need it a bit more often - probably every 6-8 weeks

[IllegallyBrunette]

Hmm if they hate cats then they might be a no because the cat doesn't like dogs either and will try and fight although backs straight off if challenged.

My list of no breeds would be - staffs, rotties, alsations, greyhounds, anytnhing quite big tbh.

Breeds I have looked into so far are Patterdales, Shitzus, Beagles and Labradoodles.

[Fauve]

Border terriers may be the most laidback terriers. They are not averse to cats if nicely introduced!

[Gingerbear]

They tend to get very bored too, so someone to take dog out during the day would be an advantage.

[IllegallyBrunette]

The one problem with rehoming a rescue dog is that i'd want to take my kids along with me to see the dogs so we could choose one together, and last time I took dd2 she cried for an hour straight when we left because she wanted them all

I have a good few months or more to decide what to do anyway I suppose.

[NutterlyUts]

Do you have a list of "No way" breeds?

[Gingerbear]

We had one. They are great with children, and full of beans. BUT: They hate cats and small furry creatures. They need a lot of exercise and discipline and they will dig craters all over your garden.

[IllegallyBrunette]

Garden would be made secure, but I do take your point about me not knowing if there was a problem if I wasn't there.

[Fauve]

Terriers are quite adventurous and can be inclined to run away if you have a dog flap - although I'd be interested to hear other experiences about dog flaps. I bet you end up with a dog walker for those two days a week when not home

Puppies are much much more time-consuming than you think IMO. Esp compared to cats! But they are lovely.

[IllegallyBrunette]

Dog walker not an option as couldn't afford it.

Would consider a rescue dog yes but would be more nervous about the temprement I suppose. Mind you having said that, we got a rescue dog when I was 15 and she was absolutly wonderful.

My dad now has a terrier cross that I had from a puppy and had to rehome to him when I split with my ex and he is nuts.