Fed up of...

[Cam2020]

I'm seeing this fairly frequently, along with 'gotten'. Both make me want to scream. Just needed to type that out here before I do something twatty and respond to someone in a condescending manner.

[MurielSpriggs]

I don't want to start a fight, but "gotten" seems fine to me Although as a massive snob I would not use it.

"Fed up of" - definitely wrong.

[eandz13]

If it's not fed up of, is it fed up with?
Educate me, I'm not immediately seeing the mistake!

[MindyStClaire]

There is nothing wrong with gotten - old useage that is still standard in Scotland, Ireland, the US and I'm sure regions of England.

[Cam2020]

I don't want to start a fight, but "gotten" seems fine to me

😂 It's fine if you're North American and probably not technically wrong, but not what we say in the UK! It smacks of someone repeating things from American TV (and me being a snob 😂).

[MindyStClaire]

Scotland and NI are in the UK!

[MurielSpriggs]

I say definitely "with". That's what goes with the verb "to feed". Eg "I feed my baby with formula". "Of" doesn't work.

[LawnFever]

Gotten makes my teeth itch, hate it.

Can’t get worked up about ‘fed up of’ to be honest.

[Cam2020]

If it's not fed up of, is it fed up with?

Exactly.

I do take on board the usage of 'gotten', but it's especially irksome when it's used in a posts that's written like a Gossip Girl script.

[MurielSpriggs]

@MindyStClaire

Scotland and NI are in the UK!

Are we allowed to expand pedants' corner to include geography?

[etulosba]

It’s something that that grated with me too but of instead of with is so commonly used now that it is probably acceptable use.

[Sausagedogsarethebest]

It grinds my gears when I see 'fed up of...' too, so you're not alone OP.

[Cam2020]

Completely unaware of UK dialects using 'gotten'. As per previous post, happy to concede that except when the rest of the post is littered with Americanisms and the tone sounds like some kind of YA TV programme.

[percythewitch]

Can I add "embarrassed of" to the list please.

Also, "had a baby to my boyfriend"

[LawnFever]

Can I add "embarrassed of" to the list please.

In what context? If I’m ‘embarrassed of my dog’ is that wrong, what should it be, ‘embarrassed about’?

I though I would be embarrassed of a person/thing but embarrassed about a situation.

[percythewitch]

You could be embarrassed "by" your dog or "about" your dog's behaviour but not of your dog.

[wtaf37]

@MurielSpriggs

I don't want to start a fight, but "gotten" seems fine to me Although as a massive snob I would not use it.

"Fed up of" - definitely wrong.

Nooooooo!! Gotten is one of the ugliest words ever used (got is a close 2nd, although I appreciate that it is a useful word at times!)

Can I add:
out of - he threw it out of the window. Of is redundant
and also - one of those is redundant
off of - you only need to fall off the sofa, not off of

[DropYourSword]

@Cam2020

Completely unaware of UK dialects using 'gotten'. As per previous post, happy to concede that except when the rest of the post is littered with Americanisms and the tone sounds like some kind of YA TV programme.

Gotten is definitely not an Americanism. No idea why its so hated and dismissed as American!

[MindyStClaire]

Hating "gotten" is like hating "the" to me - just a completely normal, unexciting, uninteresting word. Why care so much.

[drawhander]

How about: ive spoke with him about it

[AskingQuestionsAllTheTime]

wtaf
out of - he threw it out of the window. Of is redundant

"Out of" and "out" are not the same, though. Out of and into are the matched pair.

Their mother is out of patience
He is out of time
They live out of doors
We are out of ice-cream
He threw it out of the window

(Old Manchester lullaby:
I'll throw you out of the window
I'll chuck you out of the door
You are my little darling
And I'll trample you into the floor.
That's what I'll do, she said
And that's what she did
Dropped him into the dustbin
And clapped on the lid.)


and also - one of those is redundant
off of - you only need to fall off the sofa, not off of

there I agree with you.

[etulosba]

Gotten is definitely not an Americanism. No idea why its so hated and dismissed as American!

Probably because it had fallen out of use in the UK but has recently made a comeback.

I’m old and have lived and worked all over the UK but only started noticing people using gotten in the last five years or so. Before that I only heard it on American TV and films.

[blyn72]

Yes, same with 'bored of'; 'with' should be used in both cases, also 'bored by'.

'Gotten' is not incorrect but I don't like it.

[Anklebiter999]

@MurielSpriggs

I don't want to start a fight, but "gotten" seems fine to me Although as a massive snob I would not use it.

"Fed up of" - definitely wrong.

Gottten kills me! Got is an ugly word best avoided, but to use gotten is an abomination!!

[MindyStClaire]

Gottten kills me! Got is an ugly word best avoided, but to use gotten is an abomination!!

Seriously, wtf. I really really don't get this. It's the most boring, normal word frequently used in huge parts of the English speaking world.

I had no idea of the hatred for this standard word until I joined MN. Is it rooted in anit Irish/Scottish sentiments of the past or something?

[Seeline]

Can I add:
out of - he threw it out of the window. Of is redundant

I like 'he defenestrated it' - solves that little problem 😆

I also dislike gotten.....