did you give all immunisations?

[chicca]

Am I alone in having decided not to let DS (7.5 months) have the first round of immunisations?
Did anyone decide to do this and then change their minds later on?

[lisalisa]

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[hercules]

Sarah, have you a link or more information about this research?

[mamadadawahwah]

tell you what though, if they could find a vaccination to this persistent flu i have had since November, i might consider taking it. I am so sick of being sick. (not the current flu jab)

[mamadadawahwah]

Yes, lockets, i grew up in the 60s/70s. Though we moved around a lot and i dont think i got the full "compliment" of them. Got polio for sure, but it didnt "take". Also worked in a lab and got the hep b or c, cant remember, as i was working with blood. I am sure it caused me to get my current auto immune disease. Dont plan on going to India, Africa or SEAsia with my son or anywhere where there is typhoid, polio or smallpox so dont see the need. So many other ways to get "healthy" and stay healthy without injecting. Anyway, I dont see any research on this subject that it actually "works". I have been looking and looking for a well researched trial on vaccinations, one with more than 200 - 300 kids and cant find any. (Husband is a statistician and he cant find any either)

maybe you know of some.

[Mud]

The men in the study could have been living on the moon

the research was flawed and discredited, please accept that

[mamadadawahwah]

Havent read this thread, just the title. No, didnt give any injections. Just not enough proof that they are valid or useful.

[Sarahx2005]

I think anyone who's breastfed for any length of time has done the very best for their baby.
The men in the study were living in the UK
Sarah x

[HUNKERMUNKER]

Sarahx2005, I think that what you quote is probably from very flawed data (the men in the study had many other factors affecting their health, not least poverty, smoking, etc). I'd be interested to see your links though, so I hope you do start that thread soon.

I just felt I ought to post on this thread in case there were people who read this and had your post stick in their mind since it isn't accurate info and may dissuade someone from bfeeding for any length of time. Sorry to hear about your miscarriage.

[Willow2]

By the time he was four and a half ds had had all the jabs he was supposed to. Held off 2nd mmr until last minute though.

[Sarahx2005]

Hi,
I'd rather not swamp this board with info on breastfeeding as it's not fair to people who are following the vaccination debate.
I've had a look and found some info, I may start another thread later, but am still posting on here and on the thread I recently started about my miscarraige.
Sarah xx

[psychomum5]

I held back immunising all of mine, but only because I thought it too much, too soon. I didn't not have them at all....just spread them out a little. It meant that the jabs were started once thay reached 6mths, than had two months break before the next. With the MMR, they were over two before they had that.

They have all now had each jab needed, except my 2yr old, who is still to need his boosters.

[Socci]

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[bobbybob]

Sarahx -

I was just going to let this one go, but I can't in case someone else reads it and thinks that your information is correct.

If you are going to say stuff like this about breastfeeding past 9 months then could you please back it up with sources.

[MOMMALIS]

DD has had all of hers so has ds until after recieving his first MMR (dont wish to start a debate) but he is now autistic and will not be having any mmr boosters or vaccinations of any kind.

[Sarahx2005]

Hi Bobbymum,
I really sympathise with you through all of this, are single vaccinations not an option in your area? The only jab I really want my daughter to have is Measles, I didn't have the Rubella jab until I was 14!!
Regarding your breastfeeding I breastfed all my four children, my daughter (now 11 months) fed for the longest, she weaned herself off at 8 months. All of my children weaned themselves off which was great, as I felt it was the right thing for them and not for me.
I have heard evidence that there is no point breastfeeding after 9 months as there is no benefit, and actually it can have the opposite effect as it's far too high in fat for them. They did some tests on older men who had been breastfed for a long time, and they had more health issues than those who were fed less than 9 months.
The trouble is they change their minds all the time!
Breast is definately best in the beginning, but I think you have really done your bit now. Well done!!
Sarah xx

[bobbybob]

I gave the whole course of DTap, but ds still hasn't had MMR and he was 2 last week.

I have had a call from paediatric outpatients trying to book it up (want to do it in hospital if at all because of allergies), but have realised that what I actually want is for him to react to the pre injection skin test, and therefore be refused the MMR.

Then I have done all I can, but he doesn't have to have it IYSWIM.

I'm still breastfeeding him while I make up my mind - not that I am sure it does any good in this case - but it makes me feel better.

[Sarahx2005]

I believe that we should vaccinate our children, but will probably go for the single jabs instead of MMR, its only for the fact that the majority of children are still vaccinated that our children are protected, as it stems the spread of these illnesses.
My first three children had the MMR and were fine, but we sadly lost our four year old son in June 2002 after an 18 months battle with a brain tumour.
We are over cautious because of this, but still intend to get our baby girl (11 months) vaccinated.
We were very specific when she had her first set of jabs and wouldn't let her have the mercury based ones and my HV was fine about it. It meant taking her every 2 weeks and having several more jabs but we felt it was worth it, and wouldn't you know it just as she was finishing the course they banned the ones we didn't want her to have and brought out a new one!
Sarah xx

[Prettybird]

If your FIL has "natural immunity" it is becasue he caught the disease(s) when he was young - or maybe has a sub-clincial (is that the term) form of it/then.

I agree about malaria - while many "locals" may have a dagree of resistance to some of the forms of malaria - though having had it - there are many different forms, some more dangerous than others and I don't think it is worth the rsik not to take prophylactics (or avoid going to a malarial area).

My great grandfather died of "Blackwater fever" - a form of malaria - and that was having lived all his life in the area he caught it.

[Jimjams]

You do build up a natural resistance to local bugs- providing they don't kill you first! The illest I've been in recent years was the year I spent in Japan. I got virus after virus- just because they were all new. You will pass on passive immunity to your child- but it doesn't last long- they have to start making thier own.


Gwenik- I'd agree with that

[lisalisa]

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[Gwenick]

I'd be doubtful too - having lived in a 3rd world country for some time I'm not entirely convinced about 'natural immunity' for those born and living there - just doesn't add up in my mind.

[lisalisa]

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[Gwenick]

BTW disagreeing with me is absolutely no reason to stop posting-plenty of people disagree with me on here about all sorts of things



I agree with that Jimjams and I disagree on lots but we tolerate each other ( I think )