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Caroline5 · 11/10/2002 22:18

Some of you may have read my posts about our dd, Anna. She is nearly 17 months old, but is not yet crawling, walking, pulling up and is saying only one or two words. She has a very small head, which she had before birth and which is still off the bottom of the centile chart. She had a development review by the health visitor which placed her some months below where she should be for her age

On Tuesday, we saw the consultant paediatrician locally here again. To our great sadness, he told us that our dd was basically in some way brain-damaged because her head has not grown properly.

We may never find out an exact cause, although they are going to do lots of tests (genetic tests, brain scan, EEG, blood tests). Our dd will receive therapy through a system called Portage, to try to help her to learn to move, speak etc. Does anyone have experience of this?

While we knew something was not right with her, we still clung to hope that she was just developing more slowly than average. Dh and I are both very tearful right now, almost going through a grieving process for what might have been. I don't feel angry, just very, very sad. It is hard not to question whether I did something wrong, did I not feed her enough or eat the wrong thing during pregnancy? We just love her so much.

It is hard not knowing what the future holds - how disabled will she be, what will life be like for her?

Sorry if this is very depressing, but it just helps a bit to write it down. Thanks for listening.

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Caroline5 · 14/12/2002 16:29

Thanks, mieow!

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mieow · 14/12/2002 08:49

They are a kind of splint. DS has ones to his knees, and DD has little ankle ones. They go inside the shoes, strapped to the legs. They help to hold the foot postion correctly (DSs feet point down, walks on tiptoes, DDs feet turn in and also walks on tiptoes.) Hope I have descibed them ok.

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Caroline5 · 13/12/2002 22:26

Yes, Lou, only just noticed your post, agree entirely. I'm always saying I'm fine to people when really I'm totally fed up. Can't really even "let go" to dh either, as he can't cope with it.

Had a depressing letter today about a Ruth Griffiths development assessment they did for dd recently. She's nearly 19 months, but was assessed as being 6-10 months across the various categories. I thought 6 months for locomotion was a bit harsh, but there we are. She is still just sitting, no crawling/walking/rolling. Maybe one day???

Also now waiting for results of MRI, bloods, EEG .....Seeing consultant tomorrow because he wants to meet dh.

By the way, Mieow, what is DAFOS?

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lou33 · 20/11/2002 22:55

Thank you Janh your words are very touching.

I think the people seen on tv are like any of us, they probably vent all their emotions when the cameras are not around. I wouldn't like to know that all these people were watching me thinking I was unable to cope, so I would put a brave face on , as they say, and collapse when I got home. It's a natural thing isn't it? How many times do you reply that you are ok if someone asks how you are, when really there's a hundred things that you could say were bothering you?

I know that the only person to ever see me at my most vulnerable is dh. I guess it's just to do with not letting anyone know you feel you are not coping.

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mieow · 20/11/2002 20:45

WE have had a fun day too, DD1 had to be casted for DAFOS and she screamed the place down. The doctor said that she has a problem with her hips that have caused her feet to turn in and they can't fix that with splints, only with bracing, and he feels that she is too young for this. We then took DD1 to speech therapy (again) She was able to do what they wanted her to do, and they said that her speech MAYBE due to a speech disorder rather than the CP but only time will tell.
On the good note DS has finally got his special chair at school.

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janh · 20/11/2002 20:01

Watching reality TV shows about children in hospital etc, I am always struck by how strong and sane the parents of the children with long-term problems are...are they actually all like this, as all of you posting here obviously are, getting on with what life has handed them and making the best of every little bit of progress, or do we just see and hear the very best? I mean I do not know how I would have coped with what you are all coping with, and I wonder if for every one who sees their special needs child as a unique and special person, there is one who weeps and wails and says "why me?"

You are all strong and remarkable women and mothers and I hope you do all feel proud of what you are achieving - Caroline, lou, MABS, Jimjams, mieow and Lil (sorry if I missed anyone). Your children are lucky to have you.

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MABS · 20/11/2002 18:52

Yes Lou 33 - and todays one of those days for me too. Ds has today been referred for speech therapy and portage, when we were hoping he wouldn't need it. His wonderful physio is pg with twins and leaving at Xmas and his even more wonderful Paed left last month I'm told !!
Sorry , don't mean to rant. Most of the time I try and stay positive. It really is true as others have said earlier... when your'special' child achieves even a tiny thing - its the best feeling in the world.

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lou33 · 20/11/2002 18:32

Lil I wonder if you ever do deep down. I think we just learn to cope with it and "put it away". Dh and I have spent most of today running around regarding ds 2 who has special needs. Had a stressful hydrotherapy session, where he wouldn't stop screaming for 15 minutes, then finally calmed down but wouldn't let the physiotherapists even into the same part of the pool as him! Then on getting home after picking up the others, I had to spend 30 minutes ringing various phone numbers to try and find out when ds will get his bathing assessment and adapted highchair, only to find they can't find his referral letter! Luckily i have a copy but their fax is broken so now I have to scan it, convert it into a jpeg and attach it to an email! Ds has no sitting balance and we need something to put him in the bath safely, and it's been dragging on soooo long. I agree that so much has to be battled for, but although it can be used as a way of venting your frustration, sorrow, anger etc, it also gets very draining that I wish I could spend the whole day in bed weeping sometimes.

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Lil · 20/11/2002 16:02

Miaow, your verse really got to me. But the shame is I wouldn't have understood it at all until my last child was born, (she has breathing difficulties). I find myself searching out mothers who are on the 'hospital treadmill' as well, looking out for tips and strong words. SueW and MABS are just 2 names I watch out for. But I realise that I am lucky, as there is still plenty of time for my little one to 'grow out of it' (that last bastion for the undiagnosed!).But I wake up with a cloud above my head each day meanwhile, while I'm waiting!

What ever happens I am left feeling total admiration for mums whose lives have been thrown out of kilter by a sick child. But tell me, how do you get over the anger and frustration?

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aloha · 20/11/2002 13:59

In that case, I am very sorry. They should try to give you mroe support. However, your little ds is a lucky child because he has you as his mother. I hope he carries on enjoying his nursery.

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MABS · 20/11/2002 13:35

Aloha - much as I'd like to agree with you , I feel that a lot of adults have an 'ignore it and it'll go away' type attitude. I have certainly found this true with dh's family unfortunately. They don't know what to say about ds's cerebral palsy so they say nothing, or as ds was very prem , they tell us how lucky we are to have him at all - I DO know this, I don't need to be told. (sorry having one of those sorry for myself days today )

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aloha · 20/11/2002 13:30

miaow, I'm so sad that there are adults out there who would make fun of a child. That's so cruel. I suspect, though, that some of the older people who say your children look 'normal' are really trying to be kind. When they were young disability was hidden away in homes and special schools and something to be terribly ashamed of so by saying your child appears normal they might mistakenly & clumsily think they are being kind - of course, 'lovely' would be a better word, but I'm sure they sometimes don't know what to say. Of course there is no excuse of some people's rudeness, but most, I think and hope, mean well. Perhaps they don't intend to contradict you or think you are making it up, but just think they are giving you hope??? I might be talking rubbish, but I really hope that most people feel interest & compassion for children - disabled or not.

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MABS · 20/11/2002 12:49

Yeah Mieow - I'm sure it is the adults with the problem , its rarely the kids. Today I'm feeling low though, Ds's nursery have ,quite correctly, said they're keeping him in his current group in April, not moving him up with his classmates. I KNOW its the right thing to do for him - but sometimes it just gets to you doesn't it? DH told his mother who 'just can't understand it' (denial eh? its a wonderful thing)

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mieow · 19/11/2002 19:17

I actually find it funny. The way I see it is that if they can't accept my kids and be tolarate of them then its their lose, my kids are lovely children who don't let their "disablities" get in the way. My DS knows that he has CP and he can't do things as easily as other kids but he is VERY popular with his class mates and the other kids at school love him. He is very sociable and loves everyone, even kids that are horrid to them!!!! DD1 is very shy and doesn't talk to many people she doesn't know, she may show someone her doll or something but she only really talk (babbles....) to me, daddy, nanny, etc. She is quite quiet outside but inside........... well, I'll let you imagine.
I find that adults are the worst for it, other children tend to accept them for who they are, but adults can't seem to do that. The first time that anyone took the mickey out of DS's walking, it was adults and that really shocked me as I expected it to be kids.
Oh well..............

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bundle · 19/11/2002 18:51

mieow, my dd goes to a nursery where there's a little boy who uses sign language (not sure if it's Makaton) and I know he's valued for his input and much loved by the staff/other children. I think once people take the trouble to get to know someone - whatever their abilities - then they realise that everyone has something to offer. you sound like a lovely mum and I'm sorry that people have behaved so insensitively towards you.

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mieow · 19/11/2002 18:47

No, we attract idiots too. The one that really gets on my wick is when DS or DD1 (who also has CP) are talking to people (not that DD1 can talk,she uses Makaton) and they look at you wierd coz they can't understand what they are saying, even though if you listen very carefully to DS you can just understand, or when they try to guess what he is saying........... that really annoys me. Then you have to explain to them why........ and then you get the classic answer "well he/she doesn't look disabled, can't be that bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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lou33 · 19/11/2002 14:30

So it's not only me that attracts morons and idiots then ! We had a removal man visit to do a quote in the summer, and during his visit he started snooping as to why ds wasn't doing stuff "like his grandson", so just to shut him up I said "because he is disabled!" very frostily, to which he said "oh well he looks normal though doesn't he". Of course he didn't get the job.

When my daughter was younger she had hydrocephalus, which meant she had a very large head. The amount of people we had who came up to us, total strangers, asking why she looked so strange, had such a big head etc. One woman even came up and told us that she knew someone who had died from it. Cheers mate I thought, and then pictured myself pummelling her nasty little face into the ground!

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mieow · 19/11/2002 12:42

Lou33, I know what you mean by people questioning your childs disablity. One lady (who has a disabled child herself!!!) told me that on no certain terms that my son,4, had CP, just because he can walk short distances, she obviously thinks she is a doctor. DS has Modarate Spastic Diplegia CP, wears DAFOs, has had Botox, speech therapy and had learning delays, but obviously because he isn't as severe as her son, he can not be disabled. ARGGGGGGHHHH!!! It drives me mad!!!
Mabs it annoys me when people tell me that DS looks "normal" and that there is nothing wrong with him, (so I go to the local hospital, Great Ormond street, Speech Therapy, physiotherapy, GP, he has had 2 MRIs, tons of Blood tests, BOTOX, had EEGs all for the hell of it!!!!!!!!)
One old bloke told me that DS couldn't have much brain damage if he is clever enough to let me push him around in a buggy!!!!!!!!!!!!

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lou33 · 18/11/2002 21:37

Mabs you know I think sometimes they do! I have lost count of the times that I have felt the need to defend myself to people when they ask how my son is. Even to the point of them questioning the specialists diagnosis. It really upsets me, I mean why on earth would I want to say my son may not walk, may be in a wheelchair etc, just for the fun of it? In fact I have now made a pact with dh that if anyone asks how he is I am only going to say he's fine and leave it at that. Life is hard enough without having to feel like I have to argue everything I say. What more do they want? Handwritten in the doctor's blood on the skin on my back?!

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MABS · 18/11/2002 17:09

Caroline - I understand totally, I have a ds of 2 with cp. Most of the time I try and be really positive and strong but sometimes, self indulgently, i think why him and why me? I have had numerous arguments with MIL who constantly says - well he looks alright to me .... Do they really think i'm making it up ?!! take care

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Caroline5 · 17/11/2002 21:40

Thanks so much everyone again for your words of support - so far, I've definitely found Mumsnet the best therapy! Lou33 and Marina, so sorry your families have been less than sympathetic - mine have been good on the whole, although there is a sense of embarrassment, and they too are trying to come to terms with things in their own ways. Closer friends have been a bit guarded and embarrassed in some cases, but who knows I might well have been the same in their shoes....

Thanks for the moving poems, too. I've found a book called "To a different drumbeat" which has been very inspirational and moving. The strength of parents in so many difficult situations never ceases to amaze me.

Lou33, I understand you not wanting to go to a m&t group yet - it puts a child into a context and could, depending on the other children there, make things appear more bleak. It is so difficult to avoid comparing. But I'm glad I went, just to meet the other Mums.

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Marina · 17/11/2002 20:51

Caroline, sorry to hear times are hard right now. Can't post (as some others have) with wise words drawn from personal experience, but feel there are some parallels in our situations. Thomas isn't with us any more, but like Lou33 I have found my family won't mention him by name - he's gone, why rake up the past. Because they have not experienced anything like this themselves, they do not understand how hurtful this attitude is. Some friends, again like Lou33's experience, really don't want to be confronted with someone else's raw emotions, so they distance themselves. My NCT Group should stand up and be counted here, I really hope yours are not the fairweather sort. So my vote for finding empathetic support also goes to people who are in the same situation, and specialist health professionals, and Mumsnetters. I hope the playgroup continues to be a source of friendship and support, and that your dd was just having one of the many off-patches that make toddlers such a "joy". Do keep posting here if you feel it helps, we are all thinking of you.
SueW, I think that wonderful, universally relevant piece must have been syndicated to all the NCT newsletters. Thanks for reminding me of it - I last read it before we lost Tom and how it resonates.

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mieow · 17/11/2002 10:19

HI I am Maria and I have two children with Spastic Diplegia CP. The previous post is a message that was posted on another one of my groups. I hope you like it.

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mieow · 17/11/2002 10:18

Thoughts from a Special Needs Mom

Many of you I have never even met face to face, but I've searched you
out
everyday.
I've looked for you on the Internet, on playgrounds and in grocery
stores.
I've become an expert in identifying you.
You are well worn.
You are stronger than you ever wanted to be.
Your words ring experience, experience you culled with your very
heart and
soul.
You are compassionate beyond the expectations of this world.
You are my "sisters".
Yes, you and I, my friend, are sisters in a sorority.
A very elite sorority.
We are special.
Just like any other sorority, we were chosen to be members.
Some if us were invited to join immediately, some not for months of
even
years.
Some if us even tried to refuse membership, but to no avail.
We were initiated in neurologists offices and NICU units, in
obstetrician's offices, in emergency rooms, and during ultrasounds.
We were initiated with somber telephone calls, consultations,
evaluations, blood tests, x-rays, MRI films, and heart surgeries.
All of us have one thing in common.
One day things were fine.
We were pregnant, or we had just given birth, or we were nursing our
newborn, or we were playing with our toddler.
Yes, one minute everything was fine.
Then, whether it happened in an instant, as it often does, or over
the
course of a few weeks or months, our entire lives changed.
Something wasn't quite right.
Then we found ourselves mothers of children with special needs.
We are united, we sisters, regardless of the diversity of our
children's
special needs.
Some our children undergo chemotherapy.
Some need respirators and ventilators.
Some are unable to talk, some are unable to walk.
Some eat through feeding tubes.
Some live in a different world.
We do not discriminate against those mothers whose children's needs
are
not as "special" as our child's.
We have mutual respect and empathy for all the women who walk in our
shoes.
We are knowledgeable.
We have educated ourselves with whatever materials we could find.
We know "the" specialists in the field.
We know "the" neurologists, "the" hospitals, "the" wonder
drugs, "the"
treatments.
We know "the" tests that need to be done, we know "the" degenerative
and
progressive diseases and we hold our breath while our children are
tested
for them.
Without formal education, we could become board certified in
neurology,
endocrinology, and psychiatry.
We have taken on our insurance companies and school boards to get
what our
children need to survive, and to flourish.
We have prevailed upon the State to include augmentative
communication
devices in special education classes and mainstream schools for our
children with cerebral palsy.
We have labored to prove to insurance companies the medical necessity
of
gait trainers and other adaptive equipment for our children with
spinal
cord defects.
We have sued municipalities to have our children properly classified
so
they could receive education and evaluation commensurate with their
diagnosis.
We have learned to deal with the rest of the world, even if that
means
walking away from it.
We have tolerated scorn in supermarkets during "tantrums" and gritted
our
teeth while discipline was advocated by the person behind us on line.
We have tolerated inane suggestions and home remedies from well-
meaning
strangers.
We have tolerated mothers of children without special needs
complaining
about chicken pox and ear infections.
We have learned that many of our closest friends can't understand
what
it's like to be in our sorority, and don't even want to try.
We have our own personal copies of Emily Perl Kingsley's "Welcome to
Holland" and Erma Bombeck's "The Special Mother".
We keep them by our bedside and read and reread them during our
toughest
hours.
We have coped with holidays.
We have found ways to get our physically handicapped children to
the
neighbor's front doors on Halloween, and we have found ways to help
our
deaf children form the words, "trick or treat".
We have accepted that our children with sensory dysfunction will
never
wear velvet or lace on Christmas.
We have painted a canvas of lights and a blazing Yule log with our
words
for our blind children.
We have pureed turkey on Thanksgiving.
We have bought white chocolate bunnies for Easter.
And all the while, we have tried to create a festive atmosphere for
the
rest of our family.
We've gotten up every morning since our journey began wondering how
we'd
make it through another day, and gone to bed at every evening not
sure how
we did it.
We've mourned the fact that we never got to relax and sip red wine
in
Italy.
We've mourned the fact that our trip to Holland has required much
more
baggage than we ever imagined when we first visited the travel agent.
And we've mourned because we left for the airport without most of
the
things we needed for the trip.
But we, sisters, we keep the faith always.
We never stop believing.
Our love for our special children and our belief in all that they
will
achieve in life knows no bounds.
We dream of them scoring touchdowns and extra points and home runs.
We visualize them running sprints and marathons.
We dream of them planting vegetable seeds, riding horses and chopping
down
trees.
We hear their angelic voices singing Christmas carols.
We see their palettes smeared with watercolors, and their fingers
flying
over ivory keys in a concert hall.
We are amazed at the grace of their pirouettes.
We never, never stop believing in all they will accomplish as they
pass
through this world.
But in the meantime, my sisters, the most important thing we do, is
hold
tight to their little hands as together, we special mothers and our
special
children, reach for the stars.

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ames · 17/11/2002 10:12

I agree, what a brilliant way of looking at things. I think most people could apply that way of thinking to at least one area of their life. I know I'm going to try.

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