moving house - fixtures & fittings, what is normal to take/leave/charge for?

[bossykate]

i would really appreciate some advice on this. what is the norm?

for example, the people we are buying our house from want to take the bath from one of the bathrooms and the cooker from the kitchen. i don't think that's really on, especially the bath... otoh, i would expect to take the washing machine and dishwasher.

what about carpets? i would expect to get those included and wouldn't consider charging our buyers for ours.

any views on curtains and other window coverings?

thanks very much in advance

[Marina]

Agree with everyone else, they've got no intention of taking the carpets (unless they're bonkers), they just want to screw a few more pence out of you. And as for charging for the shed...go gettem bk.

[bossykate]

thanks for all these messages!

what hacks me off about all this is that i have previously spoken to them and indicated that i am willing to negotiate - but the attitude seems to be stuff you.

want to discuss with solicitor today, but think our strategy will be to let them take most of what they want - but get very strict about the making good. i have specifically mentioned the making good i want done in the garden when they take the shed away!

thanks to the advice posted here previously, i will suggest a pre completion inspection to make sure all is as it should be.

thanks

[Chandra]

Our vendors asked for 10,000 for the carpets,the light switches some of the curtains (the ones we didn't like), and a made to measure wardrobe, I understand they were made to measure but if they have been used you can not ask more than 60% of the original price provided they are fairly new and a 3yr old carpet is definitively not new. We declined and they became very nasty, the braking point came when when the state agent which were their friends contacted us (not the solicitors as required) to tell us that the vendors have been told that they needed to prove they had planning permision to remove one wall or take an insurance to cover for the lack of it, we didn't know about it (we have not even realised there was a wall there in hte first place) but it's common for the solicitors to ask for these things and the insurance they needed to take costed only £20... but they decided that they have removed the wall correctly and they were not going to pay for the insurance will rip the wall paper and plaster instead to show the surveyor that the work had been correctly carried out, I got so annoyed that eventhough we have been looked for "the" house for years and had all our house "packed" already, I just told them that we had put an offer for a house in a good condition with very nice details and now that many of those details were going to be taken out and we were going to be left with construction work to do we didn't wanted it, and I added that the only way we would go ahead with the sale was if we could move in by the end of the next week. The agent spend an hour trying to convince me that I should go ahead with the house and that they solicitors could not sort all the paerwork in a week, but I insisted we were pulling out if the conditions were not met. We didn't heard of them for a week and then a reply a reply from our solicitor saying that they have agreed to our demands, and they were moving out by the end of the week. It was risky, it worked but mind you I had already accepted the idea that we were not going to get that house.

[Chandra]

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[Janh]

LOL at the lost commas, Chandra!

Good for you for nailing the bastards to the wall - I love it when people like that get their bluff called and have to back down! Make sure you do it too, bk!

[Crunchie]

People really do take the piss. BK I would defineatly take my range cooker - sorry cost me too much and I love it. Bath is ridiculous, but it is legal (I think) to replace it. When we moved into our house we were asked if we wanted the 'dog kennel' in the garden for an extra cost. We declined, but when we moved in the kennel was still there, so I thought nothing of it. A week later the ex owner of the house (a rather large bloke) came with 3 of his larger bloke mates, and proceeded to lift this thing up and off on the back of a lorry. I was so suprised that I didn't think to stop them!!

I think you need to decide how you feel aboutthis and weigh up the two sides. Are you prepared to lose this house? and at what cost? If they really do have other interest your position isn't that strong. It depends on if you can now pin them down to an agreed 'must move by x-date' type thing. We did this with our buyer and it worked well, as if they started dicking around they didn't have much time. I must say though on the date of exchange our buyer said she would pull out unless I gave her the freehold (I owned the freehold of the building) so I said fuck off!! A worrying hour went buy before she agreed. I had already offered her it at £500 fro her part and £500 for the downstairs flat.

[bossykate]

hi crunchie, i am reconciled to the range cooker going, i understand that it is common practice to take a free-standing cooker. plus i have seen some very nice ones with all the things that i would like!

i see you have read this thread from the beginning! we now have an offer on our house and are therefore as strong buyers as they are likely to get. they also have an interest in moving in the same timeframe as us. i am prepared to walk away from this, though i hope we can negotiate so it won't be necessary.