Week 9 - Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp - Our Last Fortnight!

[BIWI]

Morning all. A quick post today because I have to get to work early.

Here's the spreadsheet

I'm suffering a bit from an IBS flare-up today, which is a surefire indication that I've been overdoing the carbs

So I'm going back to strict Bootcamp for the next few days to hopefully get it back under control.

Good luck everyone.

[AuntieMaggie]

Thank mrshp :)

[BIWI]

Week 10 Chat thread is here

[LilyAmaryllis]

Rubyblue start now! - there will be an ongoing bootcamp chat thread to keep you company. I think I did a variation of the south beach diet once, I can't quite remember, isn't that low fat and low carb? So the low carb bit might be familiar but in this case you eat high fat to keep your metabolism ticking over/ create conditions where fat can get out of your cells/ not get hungry or miserable/ generally be able to carry on as a way of eating because you're not deprived.

[MrsHerculePoirot]

maggie!!!!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS! I know how much you wanted it, I don't think I could be any more pleased for anyone!!! In all honesty I had big plans about eating but as soon as I upped the carbs to keep out of ketosis they are sooooo addictive I am finding it hard. I am going to try poached eggs on one bit of toast for breakfast, salad with sandwich filler style things for lunch and include lots of peppers, cucumbers etc.. Stick to meats with veggies for dinner, I am aiming to have at least one green veg but not worry about stuff like carrots, etc... Snacks are going to be nuts mostly and I am going to see how that goes this week..

[rubyblue]

Hi everyone, sorry to barge in on your thread but I am thinking about bootcamp and wondered how I join the next time. I have tried the 5:2 diet and got frustrated at the slow weight loss and the bad moods on the fast days, think it was you mouseface who suggested low carb.

I have used south beach diet successfully in the past and wondered if it is the same vein as bootcamp or whether it's outdated now.

Thanks for any advice.

[LilyAmaryllis]

Queenie

Congratulations AuntieMaggie and yes how tricky finding food you can eat. Its probably quite individual - I remember "morning" sickness being set off by broccoli which is so innocuous you wouldn't expect it.

A friend of mine has just been diagnosed with gallstones; gallstones form in the bile duct, the bile is there to help digest fats. Therefore, she said, she'd been advised to eat a low-fat diet. I had a little wonder about whether this was the achilles heel of this low-carb-high-fat approach and so did some googling last night. Fortunately it seems that eating fat keeps the bile flowing and therefore LESS likely to hang around and turn into gallstones.

See www.dietdoctor.com/gallstones-and-low-carb

I do hope that's right!!

[Mouseface]

Hello lovely slimmer, healthier people :)

Sorry I've not been around much to support anyone, life has been really busy! I am :( that it's our last fortnight.

BIWI - it's horrible having IBS. Since my life is now this WOE, everyone has said, in a nice way, how much weight I've lost and that I shouldn't lose anymore, which I am not planning on, I'm just maintaining now. My IBS is part of my life that is so much better now.

I don't have to worry about knowing where the toilets are, take extra pants etc......

So, thank you wonderful people. And of course BIWI because finally after years of yo-yo dieting, starvation, living on green, red or purple spotted food only , this works and I love it!!!

[BIWI]

sybil - the thing that kept me going through C25K was the fact that I had committed to running a 5K race. I'm not sure I would have been so disciplined unless I had that 'hanging over' me!

Now that I've done my race I do have to force myself to go out. Trouble is, the longer you go between runs, the harder it gets - so there's a definite advantage to making sure that you go out regularly.

Although I run 5K each time I go out I can't, in all honesty, say that I enjoy it. Bits of it I do - there are times when I realise that I'm definitely 'in the zone', but then other parts of it I struggle through. But I feel good afterwards, and that's what keeps me going - along with the fact that it's become really important to me to get fit/maintain my level of fitness.

I'm trying to create some sort of routine to make it easier - I see my trainer twice a week at the gym, and so I'm trying to make sure that I run at other days around the days that I see him. (It's harder in the winter/darker months than in the summer/lighter months, as I can't easily go out before/after work)

[BIWI]

Aww, AuntieMaggie! Fabulous and many, many congratulations! I did nothing. You were the one who did all the hard work.

I don't really have any tips for you, as I haven't had to do this whilst pregnant - my babies were both a long time ago!!! - but I would say that you need to be kind to yourself, especially in these early weeks, and don't try and be too restrictive or to diet. That said, you also need to keep an eye on what you're eating, and don't use the pregnancy as an excuse to dive nose first into the biscuit tin

Stick to healthier (and simple) choices - meat/fish with salad and green vegetables. Don't keep your carbs too low. Plenty of good fat (as long as it's not making you feel nauseous, and make sure you don't go for too long between meals without eating. Make sure you are eating a good breakfast as well.

[AuntieMaggie]

Thank you :)

DP cooked stew but I really can't eat it - the consistency of the beef and an after taste I can't put my finger on... dammit no idea what to eat now!

[sybilfaulty]

Wow, another bootcamp baby. Dear Maggie , am do thrilled for you. Huge congratulations.

Food - I lived on hula hoops for the early part of my pregnancies which clearly isn't bootcamp friendly. Can you try regular food which has a LC element. So have spag Bol with veg not pasta? Maybe ask humph as she's had a bootcamp baby?

Such lovely news. Am thrilled for you my dear

[tenementfunster]

wow congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(just for today)

[AuntieMaggie]

I need some help... I am 6 weeks pregnant (still feels weird saying that) and I need some help figuring out some easy meals that fits in with this as I'm rapidly going off some of my favourites... has anyone managed to stick with this woe whilst pregnant?

BIWI thank you so much for all your help with this woe - someone pointed me in your direction just over a year ago as I was struggling to lose weight and this woe has helped me control my pcos which I believe has ultimately helped me get pregnant

[sybilfaulty]

Various things have got in the way of my bootcamp progress this time alas. Too many events beyond my control where someone has cooked and there is no easy way out of refusing the carbs. However, as this is a WOE rather than a diet for a few weeks then stop, I'm not worrying too much. I will try to do better over the next few weeks til Christmas.

BIWI, the run sounds great. I have tried C25k about 3 times and completed it once, but never got to the stage when I was good at running or indeed liked it. A ny tips? My sport of choice is swimming but it takes so long to be able to get an hour if exercise. I walk miles every week and quite fast, but need something more....

[BIWI]

Well, I was out for dinner last night, cooked by a vegetarian friend and whilst it was probably not as carby as if I'd eaten a plate of pasta, it was still pretty carby. Although totally delicious! (She is a fabulous and very original cook).

But this is what making low carbing a WOE as opposed to a diet is all about. And, more importantly, it was an occasion to catch up with old friends and have a really good evening.

Anyway, I'm off for a run this morning whilst the weather is so lovely (compared with the rainfest that we had yesterday), so hopefully I might get to access/burn up some of my glycogen stores.

[QueenQueenie]

I'm the reverse of you Lily! I realised the other day I could get my wedding ring off (and on again) for the first time in many years!

[whodunnit]

hey Lily I will try to paraphrase what DR Biffa puts in his book. I think he says that the insulin is a bit of a one way gate that lets fat get placed into the fat cells but won't let it out again (to be used by rest of the body as energy). When the insulin gatekeeper is not present, then the fat from your fat cells is free to leave the fat cells and get into the blood stream and into other cells, meaning energy is always available in your other cells. Hence why you feel energised on this WOE. You have fat energy always available for all your cells.

Thats how I read it anyway.....

[LilyAmaryllis]

Another quiet milestone I've had is... that about a week ago I could get my wedding ring back on! Now that IS an incentive to stay on this WOE. (I don't think DH has noticed it's back yet... but he did comment a few times mournfully on its absence, in the couple of years or so I've not been able to wear it.)

[BerylStreep]

On the topic of puddings for Christmas, I have made this flourless orange cake for our Christmas dessert for the last 2 years, and I have to say it is amazing.

I substitute the sugar for sweetener, but only use half of the sugar equivalent, IYKWIM.

[tenementfunster]

hanging on in there and filled with a renewed enthusiasm now the finish line is in sight!
just had indian style caulifower rice with shredded chicken
beautiful!
good luck for monday, everyone

[BIWI]

Hurrah!

[LilyAmaryllis]

Really good news that the visceral fat goes first BIWI!

The damage appears to be only 2lb up. So I'm still less than 12 stone which is very cheering.

[BIWI]

I believe, from what I've read (although this is by no means guaranteed to be the truth!), that it's your visceral fat - i.e. the internal fat - that goes first - so that's really good news, given the potential danger of it.

Your fat, on a LCHF diet turns into energy! That's what you're burning to keep going/stay alive, etc.

you may find this of interest, given that Christmas is coming soon! I don't advocate sweeteners, as you are all (by now!) very well aware, but this sounds like it could be quite a useful pudding.

I'm also going to experiment with my chocolate pudding and see if I can turn this into some kind of cheesecake. Will report back ...

[LilyAmaryllis]

Yes Whodunnit I do wonder what actually really happens to the fat. What does it ACTUALLY turn into, how does it leave my body? Does the most recently-laid-down fat go first? or which does the body choose first?

So many questions, so little time so little chance of understanding the explanation