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Barry George found not guilty !

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FoghornLeghorn · 01/08/2008 14:32

He's been found not guilty today at the old bailey, 9 years after being accused of killing Jill Dando

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MsDemeanor · 04/08/2008 17:16

I'm not saying it's wrong that he's freed if the evidence isn't there, but I still think the world was a better place with this very violent and disturbed man in prison instead of out there able to stalk and rape and attack again (his ex wife says he beat and raped her too, btw).
And 'understand' perfectly, thank you as I'm no less intelligent than you smw.
I couldn't care less what happens to him. If he fell under a bus I wouldn't shed a tear.

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Blu · 04/08/2008 16:08

swc - I agree.
We simply cannot have a 'justice' system based on 'karma'.

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dittany · 04/08/2008 15:43

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MsDemeanor · 04/08/2008 15:33

It's got sod all to do with 'reading the tabloids'. He was convicted of attempted rape - a crime he CONFESSED to. It is an undisputed fact. According to his victim he actually raped her, the 'attempted' part of the charge was a technicality. She was only 20 and a foreign student. It must have been horrific for her. Most rape victims - especially in stranger rapes - are afraid they are going to be murdered. I have ZERO sympathy for rapists (not to mention stalkers). I am glad he was in prison and sorry he has been let out. London is now a less safe place for women. There is no evidence that his conviction allowed the 'real killer' to go free. After a massive and complex police investigation there were no other suspects at all.

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FioFio · 04/08/2008 13:25

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DeeRiguer · 04/08/2008 10:34

well it aint Karma, imho
nor justice either for anyone involved...

that makes me fume, and the fact that what sounded like a professional hitman got away...thanks to inspector knacker of the yard

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wannaBe · 04/08/2008 10:28

well that depends. If someone I knew was wrongly convicted of murder, someone who was a lovely, well loved person, then I would be devostated for them.

But if someone I knew who had spent their life stalking women, who had been convicted of attempted rape and sexual asalt was then sent down for murder, I A wouldn't really be that devostated as they wouldn't be considered to be among my close circle of friends, and B, would wonder if maybe a bit of justice hadn't been done for his victims, and that the streets had been a safer place without him for the past 9 years. Carma, you know.

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DeeRiguer · 04/08/2008 10:22

wannabe .. if anyone you know is convicted of murder i take it you would describe it as unfortunate ..when the sentence was found as unsafe..

mmj ..in documentry last year the forensics of this case were thrown into disarray ...the small amount of gunpowder in his pocket was thought to have come into contact with his clothing from the police photographic lab...

i'd be angry at the cops, not this individual..

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wannaBe · 04/08/2008 10:02

"he wasnt guilty he was a bit weirdy, and not the full shilling i think,..". and a stalker and a sex offender. .

If he didn't murder JD then of course it's unfortunate that he was wrongly convicted, and scary that there is a killer out there.

But it's not as if the police looked at the local oddball and thought "oh wait, he looks a bit strange, we need a conviction, let's fit him up," is it? During the time they followed him he stalked 38 women! in a 3 week period.

This isn't about a lovely upstanding member of the community being fitted up for a crime he didn't commit, when you play with fire and stalk and harrass women at some point this is going to come back to haunt you and maybe, just maybe, you will be sent down for something you didn't do.

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fedupandisolated · 04/08/2008 07:22

I feel sorry for Barry George - he did not deserve the conviction for murder.

Having said that - he is a deeply worrying individual and needs long term supervision.

When Barry George confessed to rape he crumbled under questioning and I suspect that he would have done the same if guilty of murder. Quite simply it sounds as though he does not have the capacity to carry on pretending he was innocent if he wasn't.

Sad sad state of affairs - a man innocent of murder has been wrongly convicted and the real killer has now long gone.

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MsDemeanor · 04/08/2008 00:14

He is a rapist. I'm sorry he has been released.

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themildmanneredjanitor · 04/08/2008 00:13

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unknownrebelbang · 04/08/2008 00:06

He's not been found innocent.

He's been found not guilty.

There is a difference.

(I have no views either way, I've not been following the retrial).

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dittany · 04/08/2008 00:01

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DeeRiguer · 03/08/2008 23:58

its good news am so pleased for him ^ his sister, family,
i never thought he was guilty
this case seemed to stink from the get-go..

wtf in the report i heard on the radio the police were disappointed..
but it seems it was okay to let whoever did it get away and the trail get cold for all these years

Jill Dando and family, friends are robbed of justice, as barry george had no justice and lost his liberty..
and the general public, too..no justice and murderer on the loose..

you say you are upset he is out now...he has been found INNOCENT oh and a killer has been allowed to get away and that dont disturb you more??

i think some attitudes here stink, he wasnt guilty he was a bit weirdy, and not the full shilling i think,..

its not a hanging offence...yet

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dittany · 03/08/2008 23:57

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moondog · 03/08/2008 12:00

That Timesarticlementions a juror feeling bad and 'phoninig the court repeatedlty after trial' Eh? Bit bloody late surely?

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wannaBe · 03/08/2008 10:35

The more I hear about this man the less I feel sorry for him.

I feel desperately sorry for JD's family, who thought that justice had been done and who now have to face the possibility that JD's killer may never be found.

But while BJ has now been aquitted of this crime, I can't help wondering how many other crimes he got away with.

I feel sorry for jd's family. and I feel that this has turned a deeply unpleasant individual into a victim. He will now always be remembered for the wrong that was committed against him, as opposed to the wrongs he committed against the several hundred women he stalked.

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fedupandisolated · 03/08/2008 07:28

Blimey! Barry George says he couldn't have killed Jill Dando because he was "stalking another woman at the time"!!

...and he's back on the streets - how reassuring.

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MsDemeanor · 02/08/2008 22:03

I think the police believed they had the right bloke. THere are no other leads. It's not like him or criminal X. There is no criminal X. But while George was in prison, women weren't being stalked and attacked by him. And that has to be good news.

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wannaBe · 02/08/2008 22:02

indecent asalt and attempted rape.

he sounds like a deeply scary individual

"greater concern to detectives, however, were the dozens of rolls of film containing 2,248 pictures of 419 different women. The photographs had been taken
by Mr George as he stalked women around Hammersmith and Fulham ? often accosting them, asking for dates or following them to their homes." not someone I would feel happy about living close to.
"He was placed under surveillance and was seen to approach 38 women during a three-week period." innocent of JD's murder he may be, but i doubt the women he stalked beforehand are sleeping easy now knowing he's out there again.

If this obsession is not something he has any control over, then maybe questions should be raised as to whether he should actually be free, or whether he maybe should be detained under the mental health act.

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stoppinattwo · 02/08/2008 21:59

Blu I agree completely....while he was in jail the police could sit tight, confident that they had the right guy, and quite rightly so, he had been found guilty. However, now it must be a very worrying task for them thinking that there may be someone out ther who has done this and they need to find them.

I personally think that the police are never really a million miles away from the guilty person, they have the experience but hte problem is that people walk on technicalities..He might have done it and his right to appeal has worked in his favour, we will never know. There is no good result, if he was guilty, we have just let him out again. If he wasnt guilty, then he has done this time for nothing and JD's killer has been walking all this time, possibly hurting other people in the mean time