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Daniel Pelka's mother's boyfriend kills himself

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Goingtobeawesome · 29/01/2016 14:56

His mother hung herself a few months ago and now her boyfriend has done the same.

Cowards the pair of them.

Poor Daniel.

Does anyone know if anyone else was disciplined for not reporting concerns and making sure he was removed from them?

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Doublebubblebubble · 29/01/2016 17:34

Personally I think it is a cop out. People did realise something was wrong - they saw him eating from a bin for Christ's sake. You only have to look at the Poppi Worthington case to see how easy multiple people made it for someone to get away with murder and cover their backs. I'm not saying ss dont have it hard and I'm sure the stuff they see/hear must be beyond awful, but, and its a big but, when you make an error with the life of a child I think that there absolutely have to be repercussions. Like the woman involved in the baby p case I forget her name but she was forced to resign

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Goingtobeawesome · 29/01/2016 17:35

That just shows the incompetence. When a child says they have been hurt, going straight to the parent is bound to end in horror for the child.

Victoria Climbie was asked, in front of her aunt, what she wanted to do. A child is hardly going to say my aunt is hurting me when she is sat there. She should have been spoken too away from her with a chaperone. Parents should not always be assumed to be the carers we all wish they were. There has to be a better way.

Obsidian, everyone in life makes errors but it's not good enough when common sense isn't applied and the same mistakes are repeated for decades. While people might not have realised he was being abused and ignored it the fact remains that the authorities weren't trained enough for this to be allowed to happen. It's just not good enough and you can get snotty with me all you like. I'm not a social worker but I am a product of their incompetence.

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AyeAmarok · 29/01/2016 17:49


Glad the taxpayer doesn't have to pay 20(?)k a year on either of them to look after them in jail. That's another positive.

Good riddance to the pair of them, evil cowards.
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Dolly80 · 29/01/2016 21:24

I agree with previous posters, the decision of his mother and stepfather to take their own lives is more likely to have been led by their own suffering in prison as opposed to any remorse they might have felt. I can't imagine people who could inflict such harm on a young boy could or would be particularly remorseful.

Daniel was let down by all the agencies he came into contact with, as highlighted in the serious case review (taken from the BBC website):

"It said Daniel was "invisible" at times and none of the professionals he came into contact with ever questioned him about what was happening in his life."

We must never forget how we let this little boy down and how we should strive every day to ensure no other child is 'invisible' in the future.

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Behooven · 29/01/2016 21:31

There was another invisible boy last week, died of scurvy. Sad

Hope this evil creature suffered even a bit before he copped out. And his odious dead girlfriend.

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LaurieFairyCake · 29/01/2016 21:42

I think they probably both felt remorse once away from the life they had.

Killing yourself is no easy way out. It's an utterly desperate act of someone very ill.

I'm not sorry they're both dead.

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VagueIdeas · 29/01/2016 21:47

They deserved to serve every moment of their sentences, so in that respect, they shouldn't have been able to take the easy way out.

But it's true that it saves a lot of money.

Evil, evil people.

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Doublebubblebubble · 29/01/2016 22:18

I think they probably both felt remorse once away from the life they had Killing yourself is no easy way out. It's an utterly desperate act of someone very ill

That was their choice not ours. They chose to starve, beat and just subject that poor little boy to the most abject horror - he was 4! I feel nothing for them. I just hope that there will never be a "next time" there will ALWAYS be a next time if children keep being allowed to fall through the cracks

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Shirkingfromhome · 29/01/2016 22:41

I'm astounded this type of neglect still happens in this day. How can you ignore a child eating out of a bin, stealing food from other kids? Bystander apathy at its worst.

There's no remorse there. Probably embarrassed that they were caught and the indignity of being imprisoned. I wish more of them would do it to be honest. Saves having to fork out for identity changes, protection, housing and benefits when they are eventually released.

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dottypotter · 01/02/2016 13:03

good riddance to scum. Beggars belief how they got away with it and the school, and the SS didn't realise. Poor Daniel.

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juneau · 04/02/2016 11:01

Child abusers and child murderers have a terrible time in jail. I suspect they couldn't hack it when they became the ones on the receiving end of abuse. I doubt there was any remorse. Anyone who could do what they did to an innocent little boy doesn't have the empathy for remorse. I suspect it was their own self pity that led them to take their lives. Well good riddance to them both and at least the taxpayer doesn't have to pay to keep them alive any more.

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dottypotter · 04/02/2016 13:56

They were not failed Pipistrella you cant blame other people. We all make choices they did not have to do what they did. There were two other kids in the family who were not abused. Daniel was singled out they knew exactly what they were doing and mobile phone texts between them show they were in it together in abusing and starving him. They stopped his real father for seeing him too to hide the abuse very calculating.

They were also taking cocaine and drinking which again is a lifestyle choice. I cannot understand how a couple who are doing all this are allowed to be in charge of children. They were pure evil and even when Daniel was dead they did not call an ambulance for hours.

They tried to appeal their sentences and lost thankfully. I expect they couldn't face jail again its all about choices what did they think would happen when he died that they would be let off. Its stupid. Its a pity a few more don't do it and save the country a load of money. They are no good to society and they cost a fortune to keep.

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BMW6 · 06/02/2016 18:23
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Ifiwasabadger · 06/02/2016 18:57

That report is one of the darkest things I have ever read. I could not give two shits that they are dead.

. Daniel’s traumatic abusive experiences for the last six months of his life were shocking, and he must have felt utterly alone and worthless for much of that time, being the subject of his mother and step father’s anger and rejection. At times he was treated as inhuman, and the level of helplessness he must have felt in such a terrifying environment would have been overwhelming. The extent of his abuse however went undiscovered and unknown to professionals at the time. 


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DorynownotFloundering · 06/02/2016 19:01

Did Daniel not have a twin sister?

Poor lamb has now lost all her family and will grow up knowing she survived but her brother didn't. Sad

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stopfuckingshoutingatme · 10/02/2016 14:31

good evil fucking cunts the pair of them
why should my taxpayers money keep[ the fed in prison, tis for the best

and in all seriousness their other children can grow up without having them in their life in any way shape of form, and even though they will grow up to find out them committing suicide has some degree of poetic justice

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stopfuckingshoutingatme · 10/02/2016 14:47

Oh my goodness, that report. The inhumanity

and his sister- how can she not be irrevocable traumatised by this terrible experience?

silly me to have read this am just devastated

mans inhumanity to man

and no he did not have a twin, fortunately

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gooseberryroolz · 17/02/2016 23:29

It's possible that it wasn't suicide. Ditto Magdalena Łuczak. I always wonder when child killers 'take their own lives' successfully in prison.

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CointreauVersial · 17/02/2016 23:37

They told everyone, including the school, that Daniel had a dietary issue, and wasn't to be given food. It beggars belief how calculating they were.

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TendonQueen · 17/02/2016 23:38

This case was the one above all others that brought me closest to breaking my opposition to the death penalty. So I am not at all sorry he's dead. Neither will I be sorry if he suffered in the process.

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dottypotter · 25/02/2016 12:37

He did have a sister and there was a younger sibling too all by different dads. The surviving children were taken into care.

What is the point in having children if this is what you want to do to them.

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