passort office erasing mother and father for parent1/2

[sydneyc]

What do other parents think of the passport office changing all passports to show parent one and two instead of mother and father. When they already recognise same sex couples who adopt, who does this law make it easier for.
I am a proud mother of three and i want my passport and my kids passport to reflect that, not show me as parent 1 i am a mother first .
This change apparently is being brought in from lobbying gay rights group surely this is another step too far?

[EdithWeston]

Is it EU-led?

According to the BBC report on this, we're following the example of the US.

[Hullygully]

I am a heteronormal person and I am OUTRAGED and SICKENED and DISGUSTED and APPALLED that as usual we are being SIDELINED in the name of some lucicrous Brussels straight banana political correctness GONE MAD !!!!!!!!!!!!

[diddl]

"Plus, god help us, someone who is not related to the child at all!"

That´s just for the photo, isn´t it?

[Lilka]

Can't believe anyone could be so worked up over a passport application form

I'm gay. Why should I have to put myself as 'father'? I'm not. I'm either 'mother' or 'parent' I really don't care which. You are either 'mother' or 'parent'. Father is the one term which doesn't describe my role or yours

OP, would you, as a mother, be comfortable describing yourself as the 'father'? If not, why the fuck should I have to do it? I'm a woman, like you

[SoupDragon]

no, just one.
Plus, god help us, someone who is not related to the child at all!

[diddl]

But for school forms just one signature is OK.

Don´t both parents sign for a passport?

[cory]

Iirc we have been filling in forms from schools/NHS/various other agencies and asked to sign on the dotted line marked Parent/Guardian for years- so I don't see why this one form among so many should bring about the total collapse of the traditional family. Does Parent1 diminish your motherhood in a way that Parent/Guardian does not? Why have we not had threads insisting that all forms should read Mother/Father/Guardian of Either Sex?

[puzzlesum]

Will no-one speak up for the polyamorous? Why stop at 2?

[SheCutOffTheirTails]

:o baby :o

Everyone knows I'm a Parent1 because I always look 4 months pregnant.

[babyheavingmassofmaggots]

I like a society that's inclusive for everyone, even if it sadly means that we also have to be inclusive for narrow minded frothers.

I don't need a form to remind me that I'm a mother. I'm reminded of that everytime I cough when I need a wee.

[RedBlanket]

Couldn't give a monkeys.
I get my DCs up, feed them, clothe them, take them to school, do their homework with them, read bedtime stories, blah blah blah
This makes me their mother, not a box on their passport application form.
Get a grip.

[GrimmaTheNome]

....Same goes if your child runs out of a shop or shopping centre.

Are you aware of that or are you not bothered ?

I'd like to see the actual wording of this 'new law' - I really doubt that in the case of the child playing hide and seek you'd actually get reported - but TBH if your child manages to escape you 3 times to such an extent that you need help from a CSO then there's a fair chance you do need some help with you parenting mothering skills.

[SheCutOffTheirTails]

Um, that was kind of the point of my joke

What do I have to do to not be taken seriously around here?

[scaevola]

Any "Parent" Day is newfangled.

The origins of Mothering Sunday lie in a religious (Maryan) festival, not anything to do with the nuclear family.

[SheCutOffTheirTails]

:o @ SoupDragon

Parent2 Day is just a made up load of rubbish though.

[dreamingbohemian]

I wonder if the OP knows that they're going to change maternity leave to parental leave.

[NorfolkNCovern]

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?!

Ahem

As you were

[SoupDragon]

I am looking forward to Parent1 day next year.

[Blu]

This OP really is evidence for Hully's suggestion that we need a specialist section for Frothing Berserkers

[Blu]

So, I will no longer be a 'mother' because I put myself down as 'parent 1' on the passport form?

DS will no longer make me a Mother's day card, my life will in one Left Click become a meaningless void, lost in the system, my womb will crumble to dust and disappear, DS will call me 'Parent One', and what, Oh WHAT, will become of 'Mumsnet'?

Oh, hang on a mo - my self identity and function in DS's life is not fonded in the box I click on an official form after all...phew - for a moment I was panicking.

[SheCutOffTheirTails]

Holy shit, thanks for letting me know.



"I would be deeply unbothered by this."

+1

[diddl]

Juat looked at BBC news & according to that there will be "an option for parent1, parent2"-so forms not changing?

[SoupDragon]

Why have two different forms when one will cover all combinations?

[Bramshott]

Sounds great to me - the more 'official' things to use the term "parent" instead of mother or father moves us farther away from the sort of sexist claptrap which (to give just one example) sees childcare and flexible working as an issue for working mothers rather than working parents.

[Gay40]

I'm glad it's happened, and I wouldn't be classed as Parent 1 or 2 in legal terms, but I'm not sure how it affects anyone else's labelling of their family relationships.