I hate my Hoover with a passion. Help me!

[SeattleGraceMercyDeath]

I absolutely hate my Hoover Mistral 2000w (just in case some other poor sap is tempted to buy one) as the suction is a load of shite and the filters need changing after every use plus the stupid thing overheats and cuts out and well you get the idea. It's shit. So I'm going by myself a new vacuum cleaner and I need recommendations to avoid ending up with another toothless damp squib. I've got around £150 quid to spend, could possibly go higher if you were all telling me it was the MacDaddy of suction devices. Hit me.

[GrouchyKiwi]

So glad I found this thread. I had my sights set on an expensive Dyson with great reviews and a 5 year guarantee, but DH was VERY unhappy about the price. He'll be much happier about the Miele price, so it's great to know it's a good vacuum cleaner.

[rabbit123]

Henry's are great for bare floors and low pile carpet. Not so great on thicker carpets though.

They were originally designed to clean offices and factories that have really flat, hard wearing carpets and bare floors.

[Claybury]

Bosch cordless and bagless. Expensive. But so light and excellent suction.

[MildDrPepperAddiction]

Totally gatecrashing.

My morphy Richards is a pile of shite.

DH is voting for a Henry. No carpets, but children and a dog here. Is it good?

I've heard good and bad things.

[Mumto3dc]

I've got a Miele cat and dog that I think I've had for about 10 years if not longer. It won't die!!

But it is really great, works really well, v reliable!! it's just the bags are £££££ so I think a dyson would work out cheaper, but won't get one til this breaks..
Think I'll be too old to do the hoovering then...

[Up2nogood]

Rabbit thank you, that's really helpful!! You are a fountain of hoover knowledge! ?? I think i'm tempted with the miele cylinder, I am forever swopping the functionality of the dyson to use the tube suction for corners, sofas and stairs. And if forgot what a pain uprights are on stairs. My current dyson is (was) a smaller light weight version of the full models so not so heavy.

C3 cat and dog...with Turnobrush!! Ha, I feel like I'm talking about a car!!! ??

[rabbit123]

This might help. This model isn't on sale anymore but a good demo of how a cylinder works

[rabbit123]

I've had both cylinders & uprights and currently have 1 of each. Cylinders tend to have stronger suction than uprights and they're easier for cleaning stairs, curtains, the car etc. Uprights have less suction because they have the rotating brushroll for carpets so don't need to suck as much.

Cylinders usually have smaller dust capacity but are normally quieter & lighter than their upright equivalents and more reliable (less to go wrong).

On most cylinders, certainly on Miele cylinders, you have the option to turn the suction down for vacuuming furniture & curtains so the nozzle doesn't stick to the surface.

A vacuum with a brushroll is always better for carpets, so either an upright or a cylinder with a turbobrush. This would actually be a really good option for you if you have different floortypes because you can use the turbo brush on carpets and then the suction only floortool for bare floors which won't scatter the dust/dirt or scratch the floor. Just remember to put the brushes down for hard floor use using the pedal on the floorhead.

In my experience, a cylinder is better for doing a big clean, because the long hose, tubes and dusting tools get in all the nooks and crannies where an upright won't reach. Uprights are better for quick pick ups.

[Up2nogood]

Hmmmm I've got wood floor and tiles downstairs (lots of floor space) and carpet upstairs. I do plan on fitting carpet in a room downstairs but would still leave a large hall, large livingroom and kitchen wooden. I don't have pets either just 2 (to be 3) young children.

I've never had a cylinder, what are they like?

[rabbit123]

If you prefer uprights, I'd absolutely recommend Sebo. Miele make better cylinders and Sebo make better uprights.

If you've specifically got your eye on a Miele and have carpets, go for the Cat & Dog or Solution models. The turbobrush is invaluable for carpets

[PigletJohn]

oh I said all that before

[PigletJohn]

I recently got the black one from JL. It is apparently not as quiet as the white one, but it is still the quietest vac I have ever heard. No dogs now so did not get one with a turbobrush head.

www.johnlewis.com/miele-complete-c3-powerline-cylinder-vacuum-cleaner-black/p1775400

It has more power at 1600W and does not have the latest floor head which is fitted to the lower power ones.

I did twice order a blue one from Debenhams at reduced price, but they twice sent me the less powerful white Silence model.

All the Mieles are very good, there are just small variations between models. I got the large C3 because it is very similar to our old Miele, and has the compartment for accessories under the lid. The lasted 23 years but there is a belt needed for the power display that has been discontinued.

[Up2nogood]

Opps pressed enter too soon!!

pigletjohn or anyone else with wise words, the C2 here www.johnlewis.com/miele-complete-c3-silence-ecoline-plus-cylinder-vacuum-cleaner-white/p1694857 that you suggested is only 700w.

This C3 is 1200w but a fair bit more expensive
www.johnlewis.com/miele-complete-c3-cat-dog-powerline-cylinder-vacuum-cleaner-red/p1681331

Is it worth the difference?

Any specific Sebo recommendations?

My DYSON was an upright so i'm slightly apprehensive about a cylinder......

[Up2nogood]

Sorry to gatecrash.I need to replace my 7yo DYSON as i'm sick of getting it fixed. I'm torn between a Sebo and Miele.pigletjohn or

[ggirl]

I've had a henry ,dyson and have a miele cat and dog and still prefer my MIL sebo

[PigletJohn]

It is only fair to warn you that Miele do not last for ever. My 1990 now needs a new belt for the power indicator window, and the part is no longer available.

So I've bought a C3 which has a strong family resemblance, but is lighter.

[clippityclop]

Another vote for Sebo. Best vacuum cleaner ever.

[rabbit123]

another thing I've noticed about bagged vacuums, especially Miele and Sebo which use very high quality bags and filters, is that the air coming out of the vacuum smells so much cleaner. Bagless vacs get very fine dust particles stuck to the tops of the cyclones, which you can't get to to clean and doesn't fall out when you empty it. Over time, this starts to go stale and smell. Especially noticeable if you have pets.

With the bagged vacs, again noticeably Miele and Sebo which have sealing bags, once the dirt and dust is removed from the machine, it's gone. The bags on Miele vacs seal when you take them out, so when you empty the vacuum, you don't get any dust blowing back in your face. It's all sealed in a bag.

[MarieJeanne]

I LOVE my Hoover with a passion, it's a Miele.
No cats or dogs but 2 long-haired DDs which are even worse for shedding hairs.

[nicknamenonsense]

Wow, thank you all, one of the jobs on my list for this weekend was to research vacuums and you have just done that for me
Think you have all convinced me re bags!!

[TheLastThneed]

I hated our Hoover. We've replaced with a Henry whic is fab. I love Miele too...

[rabbit123]

Here's some info...

Miele C2 Compact Cat & Dog
1400w with variable power dial
3.5 litre bag
Lightweight
No tool storage on the body of the machine

www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/home-appliances/vacuum-cleaners/cylinder-vacuum-cleaners/miele-compact-c2-cat-dog-powerline-cylinder-vacuum-cleaner-mango-red-10023848-pdt.html?gclid=CJDJ6q-licMCFaMewwoduJEA9w&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~~~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!55368610404!!!g!89733688404!&ef_id=UoE@8gAABKY-ow-n:20150110111133:s

Miele C2 Powerline Cat & Dog
1600w with variable power dial
4.5 litre bag
slightly heavier, but tools stored on board

www.coopelectricalshop.co.uk/Miele-Complete-C2-Cat-Dog-Powerline-Cylinder-Vacuum-Cleaner-in-Mango-Red/id-MIE-CVC-COMPLETEC2POWERLINE-MR?ds_e_ad_type=pla&gclid=CO20-t2licMCFSrjwgod7QsAyA&gclsrc=aw.ds

Miele C3 Cat & Dog
1600w with variable power buttons
Uses the same bags as the powerline
Tools stored on board

www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/home-appliances/vacuum-cleaners/cylinder-vacuum-cleaners/miele-complete-c3-cat-dog-powerline-cylinder-vacuum-cleaner-teyberry-red-10023855-pdt.html?srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg&istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istItemId=wamlrxatt&istBid=tztx#cat-0

[rabbit123]

Re: bagged vacs. The great thing about bsgs is that the dust and dirt is compacted inside the bag, so 1 bag will last for a few months before it needs changing.

Even if you don't have pets but do have carpets, I would recommend the Cat & Dog. The turbobrush is brilliant on carpet.

As PigletJohn has pointed out, there are different models. There are 2 C2's, however - C2 Compact and C2 Powerline. The C3 is the top end.

The C2 Powerline used to be the S5 which was the top model. Apart from the styling, there is no difference between the C3 Cat & Dog and the C2 Powerline Cat & Dog apart from the C3 has a higher price tag.

[DevaDiva]

DO NOT BUY A DYSON DC50.
As a previous Dyson lover we got this one when our original Dyson gave up after about 10 years faithful service. Went for this model as we now have a dog and it's supposed to be one that picks up all the hair.

It's the worst vacuum I've ever had filter needs cleaning after every use and it looses suction almost instantly. Dyson have been even worse at dealing with ignoring my many complaints by phone, email, Facebook and Twitter; sent an engineer out who said we just need to clean the filter (I hardly ever cleaned the filter in our old one) I'm persevering but getting nowhere!

[PigletJohn]

bags are great. Miele say they have prototyped bagless cleaners but could not make them to perform as well as their bagged vacs.

the new multi-layered synthetic fleecy bags are better for collecting fine dust and maintaining suction than the old brown paper bags, plus they are much cleaner to handle and bin (the Miele ones have a flap that closes them to prevent spillage when you take them out of the machine) and animal hair, in particular, packs down tight into the bag so it holds a lot before being full.

If you check the spec for the cat and dog, I think you will find it has an activated charcoal filter to absorb doggy smells. You can buy the filter as accessory for other versions, but it is about £25

The Cat and Dog models (not all the others though) have the turbo brush which is about £60 if bought as an accessory. When I looked JL had a different model at £250 with £50 cashback which looked a good buy.

As far as I can make out, C1 is the small one, C2 medium, and C3 the large. The C3 has push-button power adjustment, not the turning knob. The larger ones have greater dust capacity.

John Lewis and Currys seem to be the same price at the moment. Debenhams were offering last year's blue model (a best buy) at reduced price; but twice they sent me the wrong model, and now it shows out of stock, so I have now ordered a black one at JL.