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wibblewobble LA visit Tuesday..

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catbus · 09/05/2010 13:02

Am bit wibblywobbly again, and having posted recently on another thread regarding somebody else's wobbles, I need to share my own and hopefully regain some empowerment about what the dickens I'm doing!!
Have been HEing since Feb 22nd, officially. Have 3 DCs, 11, 7 and 2.5 and one due early September. I filled out the forms for the LA a while back, but since then our plans etc have changed. I am not covering subjects as formally as I stated in the form. I am now learning to go with the flow abit more and am watching my kids' learning styles/patterns unfold.
Consequently, there is not that much written material to show; we have an awful lot of books, use t'internet for a lot of things etc..
A lot of the time, they are 'just' playing and sometimes it seems they aren't 'doing anything that seems constructive'; although I know they are still learning and pretty much still learning to live without the boundaries of school. This is still a massive learning curve for us all! I know I don't have to accept the visit, but am going to, for many reasons, along with seeing if they can offer me anything positive.
I am riddled with fear and guilt some days, that I'm not doing enough with them; I suffer from anxiety in a reasonably big way and some days this affects how far out and about we go. This isn't helped much by feeling quite tired and large and wondering if I am doing the right thing.
My eldest has a place at a 'good' secondary for Sept, which I haven't officially refused yet, in case she changes her mind. Currently, she catagorically doesn't want to go. She has never been statemented, but had a language processing disorder, which along with lack of confidence, amounts to her 'getting hold of the wrong end of the stck' and not making herself understood. School really let her down on this, despite numerous assessments and one to one with maths. Since HEing, her confidence is creeping up; she has gone into a shop and paid for something on her own. They are both going to try art workshops from Friday; something they would have been too tired or nervous about before.
Sometimes I feel my youngest isn't involved enough and gets left to his own devices a lot when I'm trying to spend time with one individual child. Something that will be added to potentially when this baby arrives.
I do think though, that by being at home, I can still give them more love and attention with a new baby, rather than trying to help DD1 adjust to a new baby, secondary school and homework by the shedload she doesn't comprehend; all this whilst dealing with the other 3.
As it stands today, I try to do half an hour structured maths and literacy with each of them per day, then the rest is pretty much free for whatever they want to do. The structured bit doesn't always happen and my eldest has only just agreed to Maths as the fear of it means that I'm taking her right back to basics. Obviously there are many ways we 'do maths' informally; cooking, gardening, shopping etc; same for everything else really. Sometimes this feels I'm not doing enough.
So sorry if this is long and very disjointed; I think I'm just venting my worries and not sure this is the right place for it!
Thanks for enduring though!!

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ommmward · 09/05/2010 14:16

Wobble here. Don't wobble to the LA visitor

Make a list of all the things that school was rubbish at with your children. Next to each thing on the list, make a note of how you are addressing those things, what successes you've had so far, which bits you're still working on. use that as your crib for talking to the person.

Talk about how you are now seeing education and life as one big holistic thing - it's no good worrying about whether your child can do differential equations if they aren't yet confident doing transactions in shops, so you are concentrating on real life learning, helping the children become independent and confident, and they are learning all sorts of things through informal routes along the way

And I would, myself, start the visit by asking the LA staffer what they can offer you - what knowledge do they have, what is their background in HE, what is their knowledge and experience of informal learning, what resources can they offer you? The answers to all those questions are likely to be embarrassing for the LA visitor, and it sets you up for the rest of the meeting as being the expert, graciously explaining to them what you are doing, rather than the supplicant looking for approval.

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catbus · 09/05/2010 14:36

I think that what I said above, the positive bits, albeit jumbled up, are the things I wish to express to said visitor; yk, the positivity of change within my kids since leaving formal education. I hope that this person does have at least a bit of knowledge/experience of more holistic education, otherwise it could be a very draining and tense meeting. Or boring.
I also am not prepared to sit there like a plank being grilled about my kids in my own home! It will be probably more like me grilling him, and making it clear from the outset that I am not here to be tested. I hope.
Good advice though, thanks, about listing the successes. My kids are so lucky in the little things they get to do now whilst their peers are stuck at school; my eldest has been walking horses for miles down the lanes with my neighbour, for example; tick socialisation and geography, animal care, biology, nature and confidence mister LA man!! In fact, our place quite hard to find, it's a wonder if he finds us at all..

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piscesmoon · 09/05/2010 15:04

Hopefully you will get a friendly one. My SIL has hers in and gives him lunch, made by DS, and has a nice chat. He is very pleased to be treated like a human being and not the enemy!He tells horror stories of people who actually shout at him through the letter box!!! He gives lots of suggestions and is most helpful. Good luck.

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robberbutton · 10/05/2010 00:25

You sound like you're doing a great job. Don't have any experience with LA bods (never been to school so not known- yet!), but wanted to say HEing has made having a baby relatively easy, and certainly not as stressful as fitting in a school run etc.

Plus, I think it's great you're raising your little one to be independant, rather than rely on you for entertainment. All that arts & crafts nursery stuff is nice but they don't need it. Paula's Archives is great for activity ideas for LOs while you're with the other two if you want.

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SDeuchars · 10/05/2010 07:46

catbus wrote:

Have been HEing since Feb 22nd, officially. Have 3 DCs, 11, 7 and 2.5 and one due
early September.

Don't be hard on yourself - it's only about 10 weeks and it takes time to settle in. It's a pity you agreed to a visit - the EWO has no right to one.

catbus wrote:
I filled out the forms for the LA a while back, but since then our plans etc have changed.
I am not covering subjects as formally as I stated in the form. ... Consequently, there is not
that much written material to show; we have an awful lot of books, use t'internet for a lot
of things etc..

Don't wory - the plans are not something you can be held to. You had no duty to give them to the LA in the first place and you are responsible for the education, not the LA.

My two (now 18 and 15) have been EHE from birth. We NEVER did written work and never showed anything to an EWO (never had a visit). They did not do anything formal until they started OU courses at about 14. DD(18) is about to go to university to study law. Formal working does not mean more learning.

catbus wrote:
I know I don't have to accept the visit, but am going to, for many reasons, along with seeing
if they can offer me anything positive.

If it is your choice, that's fine but feel confident - you are the parent and the DC are your responsibility and you don't have to accept any sort of behaviour that makes you feel uncomfortable in your own home. If possible, it might be an idea to have another adult present or arrange for someone else to take off the older DC after a while.

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piscesmoon · 10/05/2010 08:01

My SIL has never showed work to the LEA and she didn't have plans. She and DSs had a civilized chat and lunch.
You are, presumably, HEing because you think it better for the DCs-have confidence in yourself and your DCs. A little friendship goes a long way- if you are defensive and unfriendly you are bound to get the same thing back-the inspector is only human, not a machine.

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catbus · 10/05/2010 19:48

Thankyou all. The advice is invaluable, and goes a long way to remind me why I am HEing and being empowered enough to remember my choices are exactly that; it's not about pleasing the LA; it's about pleasing my kids!
Will let you know how it goes; if he smiles nicely, I may make him a brew..

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piscesmoon · 10/05/2010 22:31

'it's not about pleasing the LA; it's about pleasing my kids!'

Exactly-just be as confident with the inspector. Good luck.

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catbus · 11/05/2010 12:38

Well, I am on cloud 9!! The visit was fantastic, as was the guy.
He made me feel absolutely empowered and positively congratulating me on what I am doing.
He wasn't too interested in any written work; more about forging a good relationship and chatting about us and the kids, getting to know us.
A real supportive, open, honest and encouraging person; I only wish we all could have such a good experience. He did say, if things change regarding the law, to be confident, stand up and fight for what you believe in and your rights.
Next time I may make him a sarnie!!
WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Marjoriew · 11/05/2010 13:47

Right, I'm moving to your LA area!

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piscesmoon · 11/05/2010 16:08

I am thrilled that I was right catbus!! If you are confident that what you are doing for your DCs is the best for them say so! You know then best and you are right. Be friendly, invite them in be open and enthusiastic and it is catching!
If you are suspicious, unfriendly, secretive and rude of course you get a negative response back.
My SIL never shows any DCs written work, she doesn't do plans. However she is happy to talk about what she does and is open and enthusiast and so are her DCs. She is open to advice-after all she doesn't have to take it. The poor man is lovely and gets such a hard time. He saves her visit to get a nice lunch and a bit of friendliness. The rude ones have no idea that he is nice and on their side!! They never give him the chance.
I am absolutely appalled that they speak to someone through a letter box! Even more appalled that they do this in front of their DCs.
It restores my faith in human nature catbus-so pleased for you.A little friendliness and a smile goes a long way!

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catbus · 11/05/2010 17:02

Absolutely!
I think that as soon as I saw his friendly face (think Bernard Cribbins!!), my nerves and defensiveness melted away..

It's hard dealing with the unknown, but as I have nothing to hide, accepting the visit was like taking the plunge into the depths as it were.
Maybe it could have gone either way, but this guy restored my faith in 'the system' and that there are still human beings working for them that haven't lost sight of things..

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piscesmoon · 11/05/2010 17:26

I would have thought that most of them do the job because they are sympathetic towards it. My SIL's last one said that he wished that he had done it! (I accept that this isn't always the case-but still think you can deflect it.)

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catbus · 11/05/2010 18:13

Maybe it's the same bloke; he said he wished he'd have HEd his children; and they're grown up now..!

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piscesmoon · 11/05/2010 19:50

I bet he was the same one-sounds very like him because he said the same thing. Perhaps he is the only nice one in the country!

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anastaisia · 14/05/2010 14:09

If you feel like you can, why not add share the LA/offical experience here. Someone is collecting reports of good and bad practice in order to show how much of a postcode lottery it can be.

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becaroo · 16/05/2010 11:28

catbus our LEA vistor was very nice too, made me feel I was donig a good job which I patently felt I wasnt!

He is coming back next spring. We also had a letter from the head of the EHE section at the county hall informing us of a HE event at RAF cosford in July and as my ds1 is MAD about planes (as is dh) we have booked to go...wouldnt have known anything about it if not for the letter from the LEA.

So....what I am trying to say is...they are not always "the enemy" although some HE'ers have had awful experiences it doesnt do to tar everyone with the same brush.

(my LEA is Derbyshire btw)

Best of luck with HE. You sound like you are doing a fab job x

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