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Guest post: "Violence against women and girls is rising - so why isn't SRE compulsory?"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 13/09/2016 09:58

My son is seven; he’s just entered Year Two and this year will receive Relationships and Sex Education (SRE) for the first time. It’s not a moment too soon, in my view. I want my son to grow up in a world where boys have respect for girls (and vice versa), where ‘slut’, ‘sket’ and ‘slag’ are historical curiosities, and where school corridors and playgrounds are places where girls are not in constant fear of having their bottoms pinched or breasts grabbed. Unfortunately, we still have a long way to go - - but early SRE as part of a broader package of measures could make a real difference.

When I wrote about this topic for Mumsnet almost two years ago, Jimmy Savile's life of sexual offending had recently been exposed, and the Rochdale and Rotherham child sexual exploitation cases were in the headlines.

Since then, it feels more urgent than ever that we tackle entrenched sexism and put a stop to abusive behaviour by boys and men before it starts. In the last two years, evidence of the sexual harassment and abuse that girls experience in schools – including rape – has been piling up. It emerged this year that just under a third of female rape victims are under 16. Further disturbing sexual exploitation cases in Rochdale and elsewhere have come to court and there are official inquiries into child sexual abuse in the family environment (where it is most commonly is perpetrated) and institutions. Campus rape is also under the spotlight.

We are starting to recognise the role our culture and media play in creating the backdrop against which violence happens. The impact of misogynistic and often racist pornography on children continues to be a driver for action and there is an inquiry underway on sexism in advertising. Abusive sexting and ’revenge porn’ are rarely out of the news, and female politicians from across the divide have joined forces to launch Reclaim the Internet to tackle social media abuse.

The national strategy on Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG) – with a clear aim of prevention - is now in its third incarnation. There have been international developments, too: the UK, along with other Nations, must now implement the UN’s Global Goals, with a specific target on girls’ safety.

These strategies are to be welcomed, but with violence against women and girls on the rise, it is baffling that there is no law requiring schools in England to teach children about sexual consent or respectful, non-abusive relationships.

Of course, SRE can be taught badly. Girls can be told they just need to say ‘no’ more clearly, or warned of the risks of taking naked pictures - rather than both girls and boys being taught about the importance of gaining consent. It’s important, then, that a new SRE law has the specific aim of tackling sexism and abuse. Children need to learn about sexism, gender stereotypes, respect and consensual, non-abusive behaviour.

Government guidance and school policies (for example on safeguarding, bullying, behaviour and equality) need to set out clearly how to address violence against girls, backed up with ongoing training for teachers and staff so that they are implemented. We need ongoing programmes and campaigns that seek to change harmful behaviour and attitudes. Ofsted has a woeful reputation in this area and needs to step up, too. Critically, schools need to work with, and fund, experts in specialist organisations such as Rape Crisis Centres and other women’s groups to deliver projects that tackle sexism and sexual consent, but also provide support to the girls and young women experiencing violence and abuse.

School isn’t the only place children absorb information and attitudes. We also need a consistent approach to tackling sexism across different parts of the media – whether in films, music videos or advertising. Maybe this all spells the need for a more joined up approach right across government to tackling sexism and discrimination against women and girls? Without this, we haven’t even begun the journey to the world I want my son to grow up in.

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scallopsrgreat · 14/09/2016 14:44

Sorry that was very long! And a bit rambly. And I'm procrastinating now instead of writing a process document (you'll be glad to know it does not involve women's rights in any way shape or form and even I would have difficulty putting a feminist slant on it).

My life is thrilling I tell you, thrilling.

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MypocketsarelikeNarnia · 14/09/2016 14:49

I'm just not sure that as a society we DO teach children that they have autonomy over their bodies.

And if we did and did that properly the fact that people aren't allowed to grope you or harass you, or anally rape you would naturally follow wouldn't it? Not as an alternative to this or anything but very much as a way of not demonising boys and young men. 'Cos all this is pretty shit for them too innit? The patriarchy arse
fucks us all...

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VestalVirgin · 14/09/2016 15:14

The fact that boys are harmed by patriarchy, too, doesn't excuse their upholding and reinforcing it.

I mean, if a nuclear power plant explodes, those who were making the big money with it, and those who were pro-nuclear power will probably be harmed by that, too. Doesn't stop me from fully blaming them for their attitude.

And let's not forget that young men are not really harmed by patriarchy in most Western countries. They used to be sent to war by old men, but this isn't the case anymore where I live, and they get all the advantages when it comes to being allowed to rape women. I don't see how patriarchy is shit for them, except in that it corrupts them. Which most men don't seem that worried about - otherwise we feminists would go from door to door, asking men whether they want to save their immortal soul by not oppressing us anymore.

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Felascloak · 14/09/2016 16:17

I think it doesn't help that we lump this into "sex education" so some parents get freaked out by the idea their kids are going to be taught inappropriate content.
I've mentioned it before but the C4 programme "sex in class" was a brilliant look at how sex ed could be updated for older kids (14/15).
For younger kids for bullying at my children's school they do role play with teddies and talk about how the teddies feel about different things and other people's perspectives. I don't see why something like that couldn't be used to teach faitly young children sbout inappropriate touching/harassment without even mentioning sex.
For sort of tween kids they could look at adverts that portray women appearing to enjoy things like their skirts blowing up and talk about how would that woman feel in real life, is the advert accurate etc. Again no need to mention sex or porn, but maybe a way to get the kids used to the idea that what you see on a screen isn't necessarily an accurate representation of how people act or feel in real life. Hopefully they could then apply those critical thinking skills to porn.

Sorry, epic post Grin

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MypocketsarelikeNarnia · 14/09/2016 18:33

I really don't think men get the shitty end of the stick in any way at all ever so I'm not doing that thing. I just think the reason some boys turn into unempathetic rapey coercive cunts is that they are really poorly served by our incredibly gendered child rearing practices. And that makes them fucked up. It's not nice to be fucked up.

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Summersended · 14/09/2016 19:54

If men aren't harmed by patriarchy why are so many committing suicide?

In 2014, on average, 12 men a day committed suicide.
3/4 of suicides are by men.

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 14/09/2016 20:47

Meeep....it is horrifying. Stop the planet - I want the men to get off.

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VestalVirgin · 14/09/2016 21:54

If men aren't harmed by patriarchy why are so many committing suicide?

Because people don't commit suicide because their life is really shit - lots of people have horrible lives and don't commit suicide - but because they subjectively feel that their life is shit. And since men have a higher quality of life on average, they fall much deeper if the stock market crashes, or something like that. Only having one X chromosome might also not help mental health, who knows?

And clearly, the men who commit suicide do not attribute their decision to commit suicide to patriarchy and its failings, so even if there was a connection, it would not lead to men being more aware of how shit patriarchy is.

I mean, just look at this guy: francoistremblay.wordpress.com/ One of the few men on the interwebs who even acknowledge that patriarchy is a problem. He seems to be pretty happy. If patriarchy harms him, too, then clearly not by driving himi to suicide.

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Felascloak · 14/09/2016 21:58

I don't think anyone said men weren't harmed by patriarchy. We are talking about why violence against girls is rising so male suicide rates aren't relevant. Maybe start a thread about it if you want to discuss it.

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Xenophile · 15/09/2016 10:45

Some form of SRE should of course be compulsory. I would have serious concerns about families who took their children out of it, what lessons they are teaching their child about relationships, consent, sex, contraception etc.

SRE for reception children wouldn't be about sex at all, but about kind hands, kind words, social stories and the like around issues of caring about others. As children get older it would be more challenging, encompassing views about race, sex, sexuality etc. If we teach children that women are entire human beings with their own thoughts and feelings, then overt consent teaching shouldn't be needed. However, I realise that this is a pie in the sky thought, so until that utopia happens, then yes, consent obviously needs to be taught.

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Bitofacow · 15/09/2016 20:37

It's brilliant that you all have some much faith in education. Unfortunately white, working class boys are the least likely group in society to engage with education. If the education is hostile to boys you may as well just give up.

SRE is delivered by humans so all the emotional baggage of the teacher comes with it. Many teachers are uncomfortable with discussing some of the issues and kids can sniff out embarrassment a mile off. Specially trained teachers are essential.

Incidentaly, I don't recognise these horrible, abusive teenage boys. Last year I was involved (at work) with a fight between 2 teenage boys, long story but bottom line the fight was caused because boy A had laughingly said boy B was a 'wife beater'. An insult so dire immediate retribution was required. At lot of these boys are immensely vulnerable and have not been emotionaly equipped to deal with life.

SRE aimed specifically at boys??

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ErrolTheDragon · 15/09/2016 20:45

Of course SRE shouldn't be 'hostile' to boys! It should be be nurturing them as well as girls.

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Felascloak · 15/09/2016 21:14

My son recently did mixed y6 sex ed and it sounded really balanced, the girls got to squirm during bits about periods, the boys got to squirm during bits about how to clean your penis, they both got to hear the stuff about each other that was taboo when I was a kid. Grin
For some reason the emotional side of things seems more controversial to teach than the pure mechanics.

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sportinguista · 16/09/2016 09:24

As mum to a boy, I want him to be a well rounded individual who understands women and grows up to have equal partnerships with them both as life partners/girlfriends, friends and colleagues. I want him to understand his own body and that of his partner.

My DH parents had a very open approach to discussing both sex and relationships with both their sons but I appreciate not every parent is like that, mine were somewhere in between.

When we had SRE at school I was around 9, it was done mainly because some of the girls were developing early and I suppose they were unsure if every parent would talk about the mechanics of it all (this was the late 70's early 80's). It was mostly the mechanical stuff but they did include discussions about both boys and girls not feeling pressured into early sexual relationships which I felt was quite helpful. It was though a school known for being quite progressive. SRE at my secondary school by contrast was rubbish, I think I learned more from Jackie and Just Seventeen than school.

I think what most disturbs me now is the internet and social media element of sexual behaviour, snapchat, putting sexy pics on facebook etc, porn of course. I do think we may need more guidance for children on how this can impact them and keeping themselves safe.

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