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Guest post: "It's too easy for our daughter to self-harm with paracetamol"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 01/09/2016 16:56

At the age of 12, our daughter seemed to be holding life in her hands - she was bright and articulate, a social butterfly. Then, she overdosed. Our world and hers came crashing down.

Unbeknownst to us or her teachers, our youngest child had been systematically bullied for over a year. Older boys targeted her, calling her names and spitting in her hair. Having always been taught to be resilient, she'd tried to ride the storm single-handedly, hoping that ignoring the bullies would make them stop. Sadly, as her mental health began to deteriorate, her close circle of friends dispersed - perhaps for reasons of self preservation, they united with the bullies. Left alone to face the daily tirade of abuse, she no longer had the strength to continue.

Our daughter’s chosen drug of harm is paracetamol. It is cheap enough to be accessible with pocket money, and with no legal restrictions with regard to selling to children, it can be bought without challenge. This seemingly innocuous painkiller is a potent drug that can cause irreversible organ damage - and death - in relatively small doses. It is a hepatotoxin; as it is processed by the body, it starts to destroy the cells of the liver. It can take days for the person who has overdosed on paracetamol to feel unwell. By this point they may be reaching the end of the three-day window when the antidote will work - and they may have changed their mind about wanting to cause themselves lasting damage. However, after this point, no amount of medical intervention bar a liver transplant can help, and liver damage or an incredibly painful death ensues.

Through a tumultuous and terrifying four year journey with our daughter, we have learnt that numerous overdoses haven't signalled a yearning to end her own life. She only wishes to quieten the raging torrent in her mind and find a modicum of relief.

At the beginning of this summer we were confident that our child was about to enter a new chapter of her life. She had secured a college place for September - no mean feat when you haven’t attended school since Year Eight and have only sporadically accessed home tutoring due to mental health. We were hopeful that a fresh start in further education would be the challenge she needed to focus on something positive.

Last week, I realised this was all in jeopardy. The phone rang and I picked up, expecting to hear my daughter on the other end. I answered in my best Scottish accent, angling for a cheap laugh. Instead it was her dad: “You need to get here,” he said. “She’s slashed her arm with a Stanley knife.” Instantly my hand shook, my stomach dropped and I found it hard to find my own voice, let alone an accent.

After a long, calm summer, careless words from a friend have sent my daughter's mental health spiralling. Although the friend has since apologised, our daughter is still visibly wilting before our eyes. She is hellbent on harming herself to appease her demons - I am hellbent on stopping her.

Every minute is spent closely watching her, monitoring her mental health. She cannot bath or shower unsupervised, nor can she be left alone in her bedroom or even have access to her own money. We have to take these rights away from her to keep her safe. Past history suggests that, finding no relief from cutting herself, my daughter’s next attempt will be to self-poison, the Russian roulette of self-harm.

We hope this won’t happen, but out of my sight I know how simple it would be for her to access paracetamol - and she’s by no means the only one. Of children under 15 presenting to hospital after deliberate overdose, more than 50% had taken paracetamol. It is shocking that so many young people are able to harm themselves so easily. It frightens and enrages me that the government won't review the current legislation that does not restrict paracetamol sale to minors - which is why I am currently raising awareness and accruing public support to try to change this.

As for our personal journey - every day shows me just how determined my daughter is. Yesterday, I bought her, as requested, a set of sparkly emery boards. Today she has no skin left on her knuckles. Today I learnt another lesson. Where self-harm is concerned, it is so difficult for parents to protect our children from themselves - we need what help we can get, and legislating on paracetamol sales is a necessary first step.

Vikki Harris is calling on the government to restrict paracetamol sale to minors - you can sign her petition here.

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MsGemJay · 04/09/2016 13:17

It's a very interesting article. A friend had a pain killer addiction at the age of 16/17. He is ok now and has since been diagnosed with MH problems but otherwise his physical health, fortunately, was unaffected.

The world is a minefield for parents. The most important thing is that children and teens especially, understand there is always an adult they can trust in confidence about anything from innocent questions to sex/drugs and MH x

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Memoires · 03/09/2016 21:26

I'm sorry for what your family has to deal with [flower]

You said further up "I think perhaps you're missing the point", and I have no idea what you mean? Which point, who?

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user1472144407 · 03/09/2016 19:53

So sorry to read this Vikki and pleased you have had supportive messages from Mumsnet. It at least helps to share . I am the founder of the childrens charity Act Against Bullying. I will sign the petition. My heart goes out to you. Life can bring about good surprises - lets hope they happen for you. Louise

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Happyhippy45 · 03/09/2016 19:14

I used to feel the same way as the op about the sale of paracetamol to minors. I've been in that place of trying to do everything to prevent my daughter from harming herself. (Along with staff in MH units)
I was so angry that she could just go out and buy enough to kill herself. She nearly has done several times. She's an adult now and simply goes to a few shops and buys as many packets as she wants or saves them up one pack at a time for a "rainy" day. Or tries an alternative method if she can't get access to shops.
She has been an in patient for many years and has attempted suicide whilst IN hospital multiple times. She has been on "constant observation" "one on one arms length observation" and "two on one constant observation." so often that she relies on someone being there to keep herself safe a lot of the time. She has spent the past few years trying to wean herself off this dependency. It's a very slow process.
She and the Drs and nurses have to decide if she can got out say for the afternoon and be safe. There's always some risk involved but it's the only way she can get her life back. A short time into her illness I was horrified and terrified that she could be given the opportunity to self harm. I wanted her wrapped in cotton wool and protected from anything that would harm her. A normal motherly response.
I wish your daughter and you well and hope you enjoy the festival.
Make sure you take care of your own mental health. Xx

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DirtyDancing · 03/09/2016 18:55

Goodness, I am really surprised and somewhat shocked by some of the responses here. This family are clearly going through absolute hell, because of some mindless bullies who have unforgivably damaged this child's, this families life. Even those with personal experience of self harming- you don't know this family. This is their way of dealing with this; they are learning, and trying to deal with what their daughter is going through, taking each day as it comes. They are supporting her, and doing their best.

I have signed, actually I don't think a 14 year old should purchase and administer paracetamol themselves. It should be supervised - checking they do not take too much in a 24 hour period, or handing them out to their friends randomly.

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FaithLoveandHope · 03/09/2016 18:06

I'm sorry to hear your daughter is struggling so much at the moment. However, I know you mean well but i do think you're going about it in the wrong way. As somebody who has self harmed on and off since the age of about 14 I can't think of anything worse than having my every move watched (including showering!!). Honestly I would feel like self harming (or worse) even more in that situation. Has your daughter chatted to mind at all? They're really good at helping give support with mental health difficulties.

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digestivemuncher · 03/09/2016 11:40

I have signed!

I'm sorry for what you and your daughter are having to go through atm.

I'm also annoyed at half of these comments. There's no right or wrong way to deal with self harm and the way in which the Lady who's posted deals with her daughter.
For all of you that are saying she's going about coping with her daughters self harm the wrong way isn't really for any of you to say. I'd think it would be what works for the family and even more so the daughter? If she self harms and then goes and seeks comfort in her mum then what is so wrong with that? Shes her mum at the end of the day. People are so quick to jump on a band wagon of how it should be dealt with. The right way always been of that who's commented giving the most advice.

Self harming and depression in teens is hard especially these days. I'm no mother to a teenager but I myself am only 20 and it was only 2 years ago that i was self harming and trying to Overdose. I was having a shit time and with nobody to turn to or talk to I didn't know how else to cope.. This obviously back fired, I got help, spoke to someone had a good cry and decided to pick myself up and deal with the problems I faced rather then running away from them.
But that was my way of coping. Doesn't at all mean that's anyone else's way of coping. Everyone is very much different and I think people need to remember this. Just because one person has self harmed and knows what it felt like, was like for them doesn't mean that another person is feeling the same way. Self harm starts with different people for different reasons

I really hope that your daughter feels more at peace with herself soon & gets too a point where she feels she doesn't have to harm herself Flowers

And as for the paracetamol campaign whether your daughter has never taken an OD or has I think it's a good campaign as yes it is too easy for kids to get hold of. Flowers you seem like a very strong woman Flowers

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fluffiny31 · 03/09/2016 10:17

I actually thought paracetamol was age restricted. Because when i worked at a shop we were only allowed to sell to over 16. So I'm shocked yo hear that as i thought it was law. I'm in the uk not sure where your from.

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Reindeerlily · 03/09/2016 08:58

I will sign this too. My 15 year old son went through a shit time being bullied at school amongst other things and he took an overdose on paracetamol.
Thankfully he didn't take enough to make him seriously ill. He was poorly and had to have tests and be referred to Childrens mental health. I thank god that we didn't have more than two packets in the house.

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olives106 · 03/09/2016 08:39

When I was a teenager I suffered from appalling period pain and migraines. I couldn't get help from my mother (long story) so I bought my own paracetamol. I would really have suffered if I wasn't allowed to do that.

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DecisionTime14 · 03/09/2016 07:11

Thank you for writing such a heartbreakingly honest piece about your daughter's struggles with self harm. I'm a therapeutic coach specialising in young peoples wellbeing and I see self harm in so many forms from teenage girls every day.
I'm sorry to hear what your daughter has been through, thank goodness she has got you to support her through this. I do hope you are also getting some support for yourself too, its one of the hardest things a parent can go through.
I have signed your petition and I applaud you for your strength and courage

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Carriadd · 03/09/2016 02:04

I thought it was age restricted. It is in most shops.

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thepyjamagame · 03/09/2016 01:23

A (perhaps) wildcard suggestion for you, but this stuff has changed and saved many, many wounded people. Please have a look at it:

www.facebook.com/theworkofbyronkatie/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf

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I have had personal breakthroughs with my own mental health with this, in area where years of talking have failed.

Wish you the very best, honey. ; )

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nightowlzombiemum · 02/09/2016 23:11

Signed the petition. So sorry you're all going through this. Flowers I truly hope your daughter will get the help she needs and find peace. I find it hard to believe there has been no age limit put on over the counter medicine. We're watched with everything now...too much sugar, too much alcohol, don't do this, don't do that....but it's okay for minors to buy potentially harmful tablets over the counter? My daughter can't buy aerosols or nail glue by herself, she's 17 and been refused every time. There is nothing harmful in the glue and the shops agree but it's their policy not to sell to under 18's. It's crazy she could buy paracetamol but not deoderant!! Perhaps if some of the major supermarkets or chemists followed suit in age restricting then others would fall into place. Good luck and best wishes x

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NoMudNoLotus · 02/09/2016 22:52

Hmm also agree with you that I do not think that this is an appropriate guest post.

It is based on 1 family's experience with no evidence or research about self harm - there are many evidence based approaches to dealing with self harm - this is not the answer.

In fact I would go as far to say that this is irresponsible of Mumsnet .

I am sorry for your trauma OP but I would be interested to know whether your daughter consented to her story being told on Mumsnet.

Also where is her side of the story?

Does she feel that banning paracetamol would have reduced her self harm?

People who self harm often use different methods to achieve different psychological states .

Heightened emotions for eg distress, helplessness , fear etc can lead to carers engaging in "reactive" behaviours such as this - I am not saying that this is what you have done OP - but I'm afraid that if you are asking people to sign a petition such as this , it does need to be born in mind.

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midnightlurker · 02/09/2016 22:42

Poison is everywhere - walk through a beautiful nature reserve or a woodland and you will find any number of poisonous plants. Then there are blades to self harm with, or the child can choose to not eat (anorexia). Therapy helps (private if you can as CAHMS is so over stretched), and animals. Horses in particular have helped so many people I know, children and adults alike. I have sharers for my ponies and so many times over the years I have seen shy, worried teenagers blossom into confident, self respecting individuals. There is even a therapy centre near me that does just this!

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NoMudNoLotus · 02/09/2016 22:42

I work in mental health & wholeheartedly agree with hubbles.

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PurpleThursday · 02/09/2016 21:32

Thank you for raising awareness about this, I had no idea children could purchase them, it makes no sense at all. I have signed your petition. I wish you and your family all the positivity in this world to cope with this terribly stressful situation. You sound like such a wonderful mum, Wineto you, and thanks again for bringing this to my attention.

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Albadross · 02/09/2016 20:33

I second DBT - I did an 18 week course and it was difficult, but it gave me other ways to calm those thoughts.

I agree that we need to address bullying - science knows the psychology at play but as parents we're still woefully under-supported in helping a child who suffers at the hands of others.

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Helenefischer · 02/09/2016 20:18

This is so sad I hope can see she is getting the support she needs personally speaking there is a big lack of knowledgebon mental illness and its upsetting to read there is no legal age to buy pills as someone said before I assumed there was an age restriction. Lets get this changed.

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quicklydecides · 02/09/2016 20:09

Op is your daughter accessing any therapy?
DBT perhaps?

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TheHubblesWindscreenWipers · 02/09/2016 19:43

But where does one stop? What about ibuprofen? The other multitude of freely available drugs that will result in death if over dosed on?

What makes paracetamol unique is the small difference between a therapeutic dose and a lethal, or life damaging dose. Most other painkillers that are available otc have a broader gap between therapeutic and damaging doses.

The pack limits seem to have worked. There was a 43% drop in the number deaths by paracetamol overdose in the decade or so after the limit was imposed. The number of people taking paracetamol overdoses seems to have remained quite steady so it's the lethality that's dropped - which makes sense, as most paracetamol deaths are impulsive. People aren't having the numbers of pills to hand. The increased use of the glutathione precursor acetylcysteine probably has contributed to the drop in deaths too.

Obviously we only see the side the op has written but I'm afraid I agree that removing access to paracetamol will lead only to her accessing other methods. A no drama approach is the current recommended technique, along with diversion and coping strategies, not infantilisation.
I would also suggest family therapy - the dynamic of the family is hugely important. With the greatest of respect, op, channel your energies inwards rather than out. I truly hope she makes a full recovery.

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teenagetantrums · 02/09/2016 19:17

I work in a supermarket, paracetamol is age restricted, i feel for you and your daughter, been there done that delf harmimg , overdoes, and it does get better

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Fedup43 · 02/09/2016 19:10

I've signed. Considering adults can only buy 2 or 3 packs at a time; I'm shocked that children are allowed to buy them. I didn't realise that that was the case.

My DC has recently begun self harming, but she cuts herself. I found out after about 6 weeks and with lots of talking I'm hoping we can deal with it and help her find other, safer outlets for her emotions.

A 16 pack of paracetamol can be enough to do serious damage or kill.

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OddBoots · 02/09/2016 18:36

This is something that really has to be handled carefully, as someone who suffered awful period pain and migraines as a teen I would have hated to be blocked from buying something that would at least help the pain.

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