Cancer diet

[ggglimpopo]

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[Marina]

I really hope Macmillan and Bacup come up with the goods. They are both so highly regarded in the UK. And Bacup I know can support you in supporting your friends at such a distressing time. A bit like SANDS, they are there to help people who want to help as well as those in direct need of help IYSWIM.

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[Marina]

gggl, stop me if this is an incredibly silly remark, but I assume you/your friend don't need stuff translated...if that's an issue there are Mners who can help, me for one.

[GhostofNatt]

It's all so difficult. My friend who is doing the macrobiotic diet (with some good effects at least in terms of well-being) is also having some sort of healing which I don't really understand and which may for all I know be nonsense but isn't hurting him. I suppose one has to try weed out the alternative therapies which look potentially harmful.

[MeerkatsUnite]

GhostofNatt,

I am pleased to read that your friend is in remission but I would not give any credit for this to Gerson. That has had nothing to do with getting this person into remission

[GhostofNatt]

That does sound foul. Perhaps friend of friend just got lucky, then..

[MeerkatsUnite]

If you need further convincing:-

Gerson Therapy is an absurd, long-since discredited cancer treatment that includes "detoxification" with coffee enemas, ozone enemas, massive quantities of juices made from fruits, vegetables, and raw calves' livers, and other arduous regimens. The treatment bears no relation to anything that is known about cancer or any other disease, and is itself toxic. The lecturer was Anna MacIntosh, NCNM Dean of Research, who is also a member of the National Advisory Council for Complementary and Alternative Medicine.

I've seen what this therapy does and it ain't pretty. It just causes more stress and distress.

[GhostofNatt]

Ok, MKU, I only know of a friend of a friend who did Gerson and is in remission, don't know much else about it, do know it's very very confusing trying to decide what's worth doing...

[MeerkatsUnite]

A word of warning re Gerson therapy.

Do not touch this so called diet with a long pole!!.

Having seen what this has done I would not recommend this whatsoever. It is expensive, time consuming (coffee enemas are used!)and uncomfortable and will just create more stress; this is the last thing that a person with cancer needs at such a time.

[GhostofNatt]

www.gerson.org/

[GhostofNatt]

Ggg, I know there is a lot of stuff on the net about macrobiotic diets. My friend who got his diagnosis late last summer and has had a fair amount of chemo since then has been pretty "well" on a macrobiotic diet although I know it's far from being the only cancer diet (it doesn't include all the juice which some of the other diets do). I have alos heard good things about Gerson. I'll try find some links...

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[PeachyClair]

Oh, macmillan Cancer Relief has an information line that she can call whcih acts as both a support and a signposting service- the number is 08088082020 (I think! They have a website, I looked but my number memory is faulty). They can also offer grants if your friend is in financial need (a little known but oh so important service), and depending on location the oh so important Macmillan Nurse.

[PeachyClair]

No, but I used to work for Macmillan cancer relief and have some knowledge through some of our famillies. As a complementary it certainly seemed encouraging, although I would say the most important thing from it all was the sense of empowerment they got from taking control and planning something themselves, IYSWIM? But i never heard any complaints, and I met several devoted clients.

[ggglimpopo]

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[Marina]

They do have to fund their work, but still, that is very disappointing gggl.
Have you requested anything from Bacup? The last time I needed to contact them for info they were generous in sending free literature in return for donations.

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[suedonim]

So sorry to hear about your friend, Ggg. Although I haven't read the book, the articles by Lauren Hutton are wonderful. It amazes me that she launched her book on the Monday and, I think, then died on the Friday, as though it was her mission to complete the book. She was also very concerned that young people should know and understand that smoking can come back and bite you on the bum, even if you've only smoked for a few years as a teen.

[happymerryberries]

ggg, in some ways the hardest thing is knowing that there is very little that you can do as the spouse to do anything to help survival. It is the most awful feeling.

Regarding the awful stats.....dh always says that in the end, when you get down to an n of 1 stats don't realy mean that much, you are either OK or you are not. You could be one of the unlucky 5% in a cancer group where 95% are going to be OK. This though has always helped him with his diagnoses whereas I run around like a headless chicken, accessing the internet and scaring myself witless with 'what ifs'.

And they are giving him chaemo, whic means that the medics don't think that he is boyond hope. these drugs cost! And the time of the doctors. If they think there is no point , they don't treat.

I hope that things go well for them both.

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[Heathcliffscathy]

it's wonderful isn't it. i just cried and cried cause she sounds great and loves them all so much and is so palpably loved by them all....

[happymerryberries]

Great article Sophiable.

Can I echo one thing on the article, there are few things worse for the family of a cancer patient than having to cheer other people along. Whe dh fist had both his cancer diagnosis (two separate unrealted ones! Sheesh his luck!) the worst thing was hen I used to have to spend time cheering other people along. Now that realy did suck!

[Heathcliffscathy]

all royalties go to macmillan cancer relief. more for you than him maybe...or for wife...but i thought i'd post the article anyway as was so moving.

[Heathcliffscathy]

and here is the book itself on amazon france website