MMR

[Myprincess1]

I have been looking into the MMR and the side effects. Has anyone gone down the single vaccine route? Has anyone used Babyjabs before for Measles or Measles and Rubela? I am thinking of opting out of the MMR and going down the single route as we have epilepsy in the family and i am also concerned it might be too much all in one for my baby. The only problem is my baby will not be covered for mumps or rubela if I just get the Measles, or mumps if I go down the Measles/Rubela route. I will then look at giving the MMR before school. There also seems to be side effects with the singes, its a tough decision, but I need to get my baby vaccinated for the Measles as soon as possible.

[abbsisspartacus]

www.healthline.com/health/mumps

[cptart2]

I was told the single vaccines aren't subject to the same safety regulations as the combined vaccine, so for example, the cold chain may not have been adhered to sufficiently to meet proper standards which will affect the efficacy of the vaccines).
Paying customers are none the wiser.

[bruffin]

Girls can be affected by Mumps.
Encephalitis/Meningitis
Deafness
Swollen ovaries
Pancrietitis which can go on to cause diabetes

[Myprincess1]

Hi Hiphopopotamous, Thanks for reply, in a study measles single has been found to be 80.6 to 87.5 % in different age ranges. The vaccine is approved by WHO, and produced by the serum institute of India, Rubella is not really needed until puberty, she will be vaccinated later, I am concerned about now and I am looking at what the best option is, they also have a Measles and Rubella option.

[Myprincess1]

However we might go down the Measles and rubella route.

[abbsisspartacus]

If they get rubella they can spread it to a pregnant woman DO YOU WISH TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OR DISABILITY OF SOMEONE ELSES CHILD sorry to "shout" but I just don't think your listening single vaccines have the same side effects as the triple just over and over again

[Artfullydead]

Had this discussion soooo many times abbs and this is my final post - an adult woman needs to be responsible for checking she is immune, my children cannot and will not take a risk for an adult, no matter how small that risk is. Have a good day

[Myprincess1]

Hi abbsisspartacus. I am worried that there has been no trials on how MMR react with each other. I agree that the MMR does not effect every child, but it might affect some children. The booster was brought in because the first MMR does was not as effective.

[bruffin]

Myprincess1

If you really want to go down the singles route, despite there is no evidence they are safe, and will leave your child at risk from a disease that causes encephalitis. Please remember the only companies that recommend single vaccines actually make money from those recommendations, why would you trust them?

[Myprincess1]

abbsisspartacus, did you read the post where I said we might go down the Measles and Rubella route, I did think about that, I listening to people's views yes, how can single vaccines have the same side effects, mmr is three in one, therefore more chance of a convulsions etc, its proven

[Myprincess1]

They might have the same side effects but its stronger with MMR

[dementedpixie]

Do you really think MMR has had no trials? It is one of the most scrutinised jabs of recent years. Of course single jabs will have side effects. You are naive to think they don't

[Myprincess1]

bruffin, they are approved by who, tand the department of Health allow them into the country.

[OneShotFinch]

at the responses about not being so worried about mumps for girls! As pp's have said, infertfertility is not the only potential side effect!

I had mumps as a child and ended up hospitalised when the infection spread and caused meningitis. I understand that this isn't a particularly rare complication due to the location of the infection.

My doctors have also said that this could have been the cause of the life-long epilepsy I went on to develop!

I don't know whether single jabs/mmr is better... but boy, do I wish it had been available when I was 2!

[Myprincess1]

I said that they dont have the same side effects. MMR has more convulsions etc.

[bruffin]

I give up

[ButterflyWitch]

The WHO does not approve medicines.

[Myprincess1]

OneShotFinch, thanks I will bear this in mind, i am still thinking through my decision.

[Sillybilly1234]

Less risky than crossing the road.

[dementedpixie]

Do you have a link to show MMR causes more extreme side effects?

[eurochick]

I was born pre MMR and had all three diseases. They were unpleasant but I luckily emerged unscathed. I am very grateful that my daughter could have the mmr and not suffer as I did.

Compared to her peers she reacted pretty badly (fever, unsettled, throwing up) but it only lasted a couple of days and any one of m, m or r would have seen her suffer a great deal more.

[birdonawire1]

We did single jabs years ago when the MMR scandal was at its height. Didn't bother with second child. Both kids ok.

[dementedpixie]

Do you mean they didn't get any jabs or got the mmr?

[OneShotFinch]

I dont know the national data about the mmr causing convulsions, but I've never seen it happen in my years of running playgroups etc...

My son had febrile convulsions whenever he got even the slightest temp (he's grown out of it now) but the MMR didn't effect him at all.

Of course, I had many, many convulsions when I had the mumps, due to the raging uncontrollable temp I had!

Of course, this is just anecdotal. But, I just think that, whatever choice you make, you need to get her fully vaccinated asap, as the risk of catching/having complications from the 3 illnesses, far outweigh the risk of having side effects from the jabs!

[bruffin]

My last contribution
Contact the Oxford Vaccine Group which is knowledge base for vaccines and listed as a WHO safe site they will probably put you on the right path for research on mmr and epilepsy.