Where will funding come from when we leave the EU?

[SistemaAddict]

I was googling a local tourist attraction yesterday and noticed the following:

The new Treak Cliff Cavern Interpretation Centre is part-funded by the European Agricultural Fund for Rural Development - to upgrade the visitor offer, by providing new toilets, heritage and interpretation centre. Project reference number: 101006.


and it got me wondering where the deficit will come from when (if?) we leave the EU?

So many places of interest and industries benefit from EU funding and this is just one example.

Someone I know works as a project manager whose job it is to secure funding from the EU.

What other resources can we tap for funds once out of the bloc?

[Clavinova]

The BBC article on Harland and Wolf says that 120 jobs are at risk - the company must have a very small workforce now. In 1975 (when we voted to stay in the EU) there were 10,000 employees - membership of the EU worked wonders...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49165896

[Peregrina]

I asked where the big firms moving in were. Not how firms have shrunk as much to do with rubbish management and lack of Government support over the years.

[Clavinova]

Peregrina
Sorry - phone rang...

BAE Systems "During 2019, we plan to recruit nearly 700 apprentices across our UK business, a 30 per cent increase on last year."

"The new recruits will join the Air, Land and Maritime businesses in September 2019 and will embark on one of 25 training programmes, which provide the opportunity to combine full time employment with studying for a recognised qualification."

www.baesystems.com/en/article/700-apprentices-to-be-recruited-in-2019

Amazon are offering IT apprenticeships as well;
Amazon has announced plans to create more than 1,000 full-time apprenticeship roles in the UK over the next two years

"Nine different programmes lasting between 13 months and four years will be on offer across the country to people of all levels, ranging from IT, safety and HR through to software engineering, robotics, leadership and technology.In addition to being fully-funded, apprentices also receive benefits including employee discounts, private medical insurance and company pension plan."

"More than 90 new Amazon degree and masters-level apprentices will also be available over the next two years as part of the programme, focused on software development engineering, senior leadership and automation with both in-work and in-classroom training."

www.uktech.news/ask-the-experts/talent/amazon-creates-over-1000-new-full-time-uk-apprentices-20190227

[jasjas1973]

Clav

Care answer the question i asked you earlier, after you said we'd be seeing the benefits of brexit in 5 years.

Why do we need a deal? and What benefits? (without a deal)

[Peregrina]

Same old problem - BAE systems is Defence. Always unwise to rely on one industry.

The new apprentices will add to over 27,500 permanent employees currently in the UK, with pay ranging from an entry level starting salary of £9.50/£10.50 an hour, up to £30,000 a year.

I do not call £9.50 an hour a decent starting wage. Even £30K isn't all that good for a decent programmer. The scheme has already been open for 4 months, where is the follow up to tell us how they have been inundated with applicants?
But we will see. It's so easy to talk and make glib promises.

[Clavinova]

Peregrina
Seems ok to me:
Tier 1 apprentices (BIT) will earn £9.50 or £10.50 an hour, dependant on location.
Level 3 apprentices will get a higher pay rate of between £11.75 and £13 an hour.
And degree-level apprenticeships have a starting salary that ranges from £24,440 to £30,000 a year.

Rolls-Royce is recruiting 200 new apprentices for its Goodwood site

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/rolls-royce-apprentice-scheme-new-jobs-crew-car-factory-a8574271.html

[jasjas1973]

Of the 280k apprenticeships in the UK, majority are in the care and services sector, half are low level, only 7% are high skilled ones.

They are also on the decline.

Clav - still searching for those benefits?

[Blibbyblobby]

Shame they are axing 4,600.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44479410

[Blibbyblobby]

Darn cross post

Rolls-Royce is recruiting 200 new apprentices for its Goodwood site

Shame they are axing 4,600 experienced workers

//www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44479410

[Clavinova]

My link was to Rolls-Royce motor cars - owned by BMW.

[Peregrina]

BMW could easily pull out if there is no deal. At the moment it seems to be watching and waiting at the Oxford Mini plant although it's Rolls Royce plant looks to be safe enough.

200 apprentices there won't make up for 5,000 job losses in Oxford.

[Clavinova]

BMW could easily pull out if there is no deal.At the moment it seems to be watching and waiting at the Oxford Mini plant.

Today's news from Europe;
BMW to accelerate through Brexit crunch at electric Mini plant.

"BERLIN—German automaker BMW will move ahead with plans to produce an electric version of its iconic Mini at a factory in Oxford from November, despite potential post-Brexit chaos in importing key components from the Continent."

www.politico.eu/article/bmw-accelerate-brexit-crunch-electric-mini-plant/

[Blibbyblobby]

My link was to Rolls-Royce motor cars - owned by BMW.

Still net 4,400 jobs down between those two data points. Though I'm sure you can find a link somewhere to offset it.

Which is the point really, pointing to individual small hires by one company or losses by another is meaningless. Unless one is just trying to create noise of course (and has a lot of time to find links or is using professional resources)

[MeganBacon]

Sterling lost 16% in the year following the Bexit vote. Unless GDP rose by 19% over the same period (clue - it didn't), Brexit did cause UK GDP to fall. Clavinova just doesn't realise because the number of pounds got bigger even though the pounds got smaller.
Blibbyblobby perhaps now you're back you could help us understand what logic you applied in this comment?

[Peregrina]

And today's news from Europe is exactly as I said - they are watching and waiting.

but for now executives are sticking with the e-Mini Oxford plan.

Matthias Schmidt, a Berlin-based automotive analyst, reckons BMW might benefit from any loss of value of the pound and if things get really bad, it may choose to start "clandestinely shifting more production to the EU" and maintain just a modest output in the U.K. to serve the local market.

[Clavinova]

Blibbyblobby
Though I'm sure you can find a link somewhere to offset it.

I already have - previous page; "New figures show there were 1,782 new inward investment projects in 2018/19, creating over 57,000 new UK jobs and safeguarding nearly 7,000 jobs."

using professional resources
No professional resources - I like the government's own websites though:

Innovate UK;
www.gov.uk/government/organisations/innovate-uk

10/07/2019 Public and private investment of £721m will create 11 new university research centres to develop specialist industrial clusters
www.ukri.org/news/research-england-investment-of-221m-attracts-500m-for-11-state-of-the-art-research-facilities/

InTheHeatofLisbon
Johnson promised £2 billion for the NHS recently. Not quite the £350 million a week he'd originally stated eh?

£1.8 billion this year is £350m a week.This money is on top of the £33.9 billion annual increase promised by Theresa May by 2023/4.

www.itv.com/news/2019-08-04/johnson-determined-to-deliver-brexit-referendum-claim-with-1-8bn-nhs-pledge/

Theresa May's pledge - Full Fact: "Nov 2018 Spending increases announced for NHS England’s budget mean that £20.5 billion more will be spent on it in 2023/24 than in 2018/19.That’s £394 million more a week by 2023/24."
fullfact.org/health/nhs-england-394-million-more/

[Clavinova]

Peregrina
Mini/BMW only announced their plans to build their new electric car at Cowley on the 9th July - they knew 'no-deal' was an option/more likely.

[wobytide]

And people wonder why brexit supporters are seen as simple. That brexit is about our payment to the EU as being a pound in pound out relationship.... despair doesn't even come close

[MeganBacon]

wobytide I think that given the scope of the OP, it is not unreasonable to answer in terms of pounds paid versus pounds returned. Obviously it is a far broader subject generally but not strictly for the purpose of that question.

[wobytide]

Nope not at all. Just displays a massively simplistic view of how the world works. Viewing us as a "net contributor" just displays a complete failure to grasp the economics of the whole situation.

[Doubletrouble99]

As a trustee of a community development trust l have a working knowledge of regeneration funding and what is happening now that the EU funding is coming to an end. We are still able to raise funds for regeneration programs. There are regeneration funds all over the country for both urban and rural developments from non EU sources. So funding is not suddenly coming to an end just because we are leaving the EU.

[wobytide]

Good luck with that outlook. When it comes to funding schools and the NHS I hope you are still as confident in your funding

[Janista]

Really happy EU "funding" is coming to an end.

Time the uk chose itself what to spend money on, rather than wasteful vanity projects trying to buy loyalty to a foreign unelected power.

[timeforakinderworld]

"Foreign unelected"

[wobytide]

"Vanity projects"

I've never met a beautiful farmer admittedly