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rahman97 · 12/05/2015 14:01

My daughter had a chemistry epa today(controlled assessment) wherE her phone went off during the exam so she was caught with it. Has anyone had any experience in this situation? How long will it take to find out from AQA if she's been disqualified or for how many years? I understand she shouldnt have had her phone and been on it so I'd just like anyone whos ever come across the situation to let me know what happened

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mumsneedwine · 14/05/2015 22:21

That's good news. Now tell her to leave her phone at home !!! Exam boards usually pretty quick to give decisions. Now to get those other exams done.

TheFirstOfHerName · 14/05/2015 20:48

I'm glad they got back to her promptly with the decision; it would have been horrible if she'd been left hanging for the whole exam season.

TheFirstOfHerName · 14/05/2015 20:47

That must be a big relief for you (and her).

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 14/05/2015 19:56

Good news!!

rahman97 · 14/05/2015 19:33

Thanks everyone for trying to help, we heard back from the exam board and she only got disqualified from her Chemistry AS, but being a straight A student the school said she was fine to continue with A2 next year and sit both her AS and A2 in June 2016. Thanks for all the help.

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mumsneedwine · 14/05/2015 07:47

The report will go back with the exam papers. Which is in the afternoon, or next morning. Couriers come get them. I am sorry. I think she needs to prepare herself for the worst, while still taking all her exams. Not an easy position to be in. If she actually answered the phone then that's very bad. If it just rung and she ignored it, then she might only lose marks for the CA. If teacher thought she was cheating then I'm assuming she was looking at it or was talking about the paper ? In which case she will probably lose all exams. The rules are very strict and inflexible - to prevent kids trying to cheat. Has she apologised ? In writing. Showing maturity and acknowledgement of being a wally might sway exam board. Never known it done so don't know if it works. Good luck

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 13/05/2015 19:52

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ShipwreckedAndComatose · 13/05/2015 19:52

I believed hat a report has to be sent to the exam board asap. Schools absolutely have to report it otherwise they risk losing being a centre for all exams, if it is discovered later.

catslife · 13/05/2015 19:48

If she is disqualified for only that one unit, she will be given a mark of zero for the practical, but the other marks will still count so it may be an overall pass. This is why she still needs to sit all other exams.
If she is disqualified for all Chemistry exams then all the marks will be set as zero for this year.

rahman97 · 13/05/2015 19:03

How long after the incident does the school have to report it?

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MrsUltracrepidarian · 13/05/2015 18:34

Not helpful for the OP, but those schools which operate zero tolerance on mobiles are doing their pupils a favour to train them to avoid these situations.
I am working in a school at the moment where even the phone in sight in class is a confiscation - the phone is sent to student services, they get a detention and they have to queue up (behind people with other errands)up to get it at the end of the day.
More than once in a half-term and it is a Saturday detention.
Occasionally I hear a phone go off, but I know if the pupil turns bright red and apologises that it is a mistake, so they don't get a detention, but the phone is still confiscated.
Very rare to have an infringement after Year 8 even tho' it is very tough school with challenging pupils.

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 13/05/2015 17:39

But, saying that, don't know anything about how the IB works

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 13/05/2015 17:37

I don't think it matters if it is AQA or not. Exam boards work together and they can extend a ban across all the boards.

rahman97 · 13/05/2015 16:18

Ah okay, but if she is disqualified from taking exams for a period of time will it affect the IB exams? As from what i am aware they are not associated with AQA or other exam boards or am I wrong?

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catslife · 13/05/2015 12:07

The exam board won't make a final decision until the end of the exam period so your dd will still need to take all other exams she is entered for at the usual time for AQA and other exam boards.
i don't think she will get away with a warning OP, I think the best you can hope for is that she will only be disqualified for this unit and not other exams.
I do know a pupil who was disqualified from all their GCSE Maths exams (including those taken on different days) for a similar offence. They were allowed to resit the following year, the school have been very careful to make sure this doesn't happen again!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 13/05/2015 10:48

It sounds as if this was a series of blunders on her part - forgetting to hand in her phone, then, when it rang, answering it without thinking - and hopefully the school will know your dd well enough, Rahman, to know that there was no intention to cheat in the exam.

So, whilst she may well get disqualified for this exam, with a bit of luck, the school will accept her onto the IB course she wants on the basis of her academic record so far.

peteneras · 12/05/2015 21:14

Well, some people just need to learn lessons the hard way. But on a brighter note, hopefully this experience will make her to be more careful in everything that she does for the rest of her life.

00100001 · 12/05/2015 19:04

Whatvdid she have to say for herself for being so monumentally stupid?

EnlightenedOwl · 12/05/2015 19:00

I have spoken to someone who runs exams at a school who thinks a disqualification from the exam is a given but anything above that would be harsh.

MrsUltracrepidarian · 12/05/2015 18:52

What sockesneedrock and mumsneedwine said.
This is a big deal, and the consequences are serious.
I am a teacher, and have also invigilated numerous public exam, and quite apart from what they will have been told by their teachers before the exam, they have very clear instruction at the beginning - there really is no excuse, and the school have to assume an intention to cheat in this case.
At most schools, every exam from Y7 onwards is done under these conditions, so the DC are used to them by Y11/12/13...
Rules are clear and apply to everyone, and the school can lose their exam centre accreditation if they let people get way with it.
(Some parents do try to argue the case - completely selfishly oblivious to the disruption their child has caused to those who comply with the rules)

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 12/05/2015 18:31

We had a year 10 student who was disqualified From just the one exam for checking the time on her phone. But she was a year 10 and her first ever external exam.

This, however, sounds like a seasoned sixth former so I can seen they could come down much harder. I think you will need to wait to see what they decide before you can plan what she might be able ton d in the future. It's hard to second guess then exam boards.

What are the school advising you do?

titchy · 12/05/2015 17:18

Oh was this A level? And you're asking if she can effectively restart her sixth form studies again and do IB instead? It would be up to the school or college I imagine.

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titchy · 12/05/2015 17:15

Does she need GCSEs to do IB? If she doesn't then yes she can if the sixth form are happy. If she needs GCSE grades and is disqualified then no she probably won't be able to do IB.

Why on earth didn't she just hand her phone in?

rahman97 · 12/05/2015 17:03

If she gets disqualified could she do IB next year?

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5madthings · 12/05/2015 15:53

The girl I knew who did this was disqualified from all exams.

Do they think it was a mistake or is there actual evidence phone was used for cheating?

Tbh I expect they would take a hard line on this, they have to.

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