after St Swithuns - hants, for boys?

[childrensservant]

SIL was wondering where boys move on to from St Swithuns? Not quite sure why she can't find out for herself, but I am hoping someone on here can give me a list of schools?
Thank you

[Clavinova]

It's difficult to argue with people who think 49% A* to C is a good result or it doesn't matter because it's not relevant to their own high achieving dc.

I just don't 'get' the Hampshire myth or the comprehensive myth really. If it worked that well then Hampshire as a county would be higher up the league tables.

Perhaps if the Hampshire schools had their own sixth forms then results would be better for the middle achievers instead of just passing them over to the sixth forms for retakes.

[Clavinova]

passing them over to the colleges for retakes.

[ISingSoprano]

But Clavinova Perins didn't get 49% A* to C. They got 77% in 2014 (66% inc. maths and English).

[Clavinova]

Only 49% of middle achievers got 5 A* to C including English and maths - these are 2013 stats from the Dept for Ed Performance tables - 2014 stats haven't been released yet.
97% of high achievers achieved the magic 5 which brings Perins results up.

[TalkinPeace]

Clavinova
You are clearly hacked that your child missed the cut
BUT
The stats are based on FFT assumptions and the margins of error from the primary schools are not given.

I wish DD had got more As : her teachers were very disappointed that the grade boundaries between A and A were manipulated this summer for political reasons : such that the school is changing exam boards for a lot of subjects
BUT
I support her as best I can rather than slagging anybody other than Gove off.

Hampshire's place on the league tables matches its demographics I belive.

[Clavinova]

Not at all - my eldest ds is only 12 (ds2 is a few years younger) and his school nudged 80% A/A at GCSE this year. In fact I'd be pretty upset if he didn't get enough As (or whatever) to at least apply to Oxbridge even if I wouldn't advise him going - he's not showing much work ethic at the moment - Exeter is more his style I think.

I just don't 'get' the Hampshire myth though - but I do 'get' why parents choose to spend their own money on private school fees for a middle ability child. I do worry that less informed people reading these threads will think their middle/low ability child is guaranteed to do well in a Hampshire school when this is not necessarily the case. Parents do need to ask the heads at Perins, Beaufort and Wyvern why only 49% of middle ability dc are getting the important 5 GCSEs grade C. Rather than a comprehensive education some Hampshire schools seem to be offering a two tier education within the same school.

Hampshire only comes 86th in the local authority league tables for GCSEs - Kent with a similar demographic but fully grammar/high school comes 48th.

[TalkinPeace]

Clavinova
Do you have the link to that data - just that I'd like to see how Medway do.

[Clavinova]

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/leaguetables/10590223/League-tables-local-education-authority-results.html

Medway came 74th.

[TalkinPeace]

That is the Torygraph's edited version.
Where is a link to the DFE figures

BTW the difference between 63.1% and 60% when the national average is 59.2% is barely relevant

not sure why they excluded Bracknell Forest

[Clavinova]

I expect the Torygraph is very widely read in Hampshire although Winchester is quite Lib Dem.

I thought FFT figures only affected value added/progress not KS2 and GCSE results.

Hopefully the DFE figures are linked here:
www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300172/SFR05_2014_National_and_LA_tables_updated_BF_v2.xls

Hampshire, Kent and Medway figures all seem to be correct (table 3).
The only relevance to my point is that Hampshire isn't the shining star in education people want to believe as it's propped up by the quality of its intake and you still have to live in the catchment of the right school. Of course it's a pleasant place to live but that's not the point - I've just looked at the fsm stats for secondary schools; Hampshire 8.8%, Kent 13.5% and Medway 14.8%. Hampshire should be doing better.

[ISingSoprano]

Do you live in Hampshire Clavinova?

[Clavinova]

Indeed not - Surrey/South West London area but I do have ties with Hampshire and visit frequently.
The local authorities up here do much better in the league tables for education but unlike Hampshire that's rarely mentioned - if I had a pound for every time I've read that you can't go wrong with a Hampshire school etc...

[ISingSoprano]

Ah ok - I was wondering why you seem so bothered by the Hampshire situation?

[TalkinPeace]

Clavinova

Just to clarify why I'm not bothered about that LEA ranking table ....
the difference between Hampshire and Kent could be as little as 432 pupils in Hampshire getting 1% less in one of their GCSEs

not statistically important TBH

Why do we rave about Hampshire schools?
Simple. Read the 11+ / Secondary modern / trying to get a place / hour long commute across London / Tiffin stress threads
glad to not be involved
That is also why
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11041812/Mapped-the-best-places-to-live-in-England-and-Wales.html
Hampshire districts come out in the Top Ten no matter which paper you read