KS2 results - how to read these

[jessica36]

My DD1 has taken a KS2 test last month, the results will be coming home soon. I am unsure how these results will be shown (like abc,s or %) and what to read into them.

Can anyone give me some info pls ? Are these marks important ?

Thanks ;)

[Feenie]

In Y6, alicatte?

[alicatte]

Did she sit the NFER English and Maths? That is what we do and you can convert it into a level - sub-level The results are communicated to parents as a percentage and a 'score' where 100 is the age appropriate average (2b).

It is an exam but the results are not definitive - the teacher assessment is just as important in the report to parents.

[Feenie]

Because the test is a narrow snapshot of what a child has attained, whereas the teacher assessment is much more in depth and so more precise.

[assumpta]

Ok thanks. Why is it different? Do you or anyone else know?

[Feenie]

The teacher assessment will be finely graded with sublevels, but the test results come as a number only.

[assumpta]

Hi, are the ks2 results usually given like this e.g. 4a, 4b or 4c or are they just given as 4, or 5 or 3 with no a, b, or c? Sorry, I am a bit confused!

[Feenie]

Yes - children are only allowed to be tested once - and the teacher assessment should be so thorough that a teacher should know exactly which level to use.

[cat84]

I think my ds did a level 2 and 3 paper as a mock. Obv based on results was than given a level 2 paper to complete. Is this cheeky?

[Feenie]

Meant to say in state schools

[Feenie]

A parent misinformed the OP with regard to statutory regulation, since hers is not. Teachers corrected the misunderstanding. That's all.

[mrz]

The teachers on the thread gave a correct answer to the OP starfall

[startail]

Sorry auto correct on an ipod

[startail]

The op asked a simple question, why can't the teachers out there give a simple answer. This did not need to decent in to a row about exactly how schools should or should not administer the tests, nor should posters mistakes be so unpleasantly corrected.

[mrz]

circular sorry it wasn't clear and my crossings out still didn't work - that was LadyInPinks post which was frankly a load of misinformation

" In year2 they do SATs in numercy, literacy and science.
Most children will sit a level 2 paper (some who are able or particularly old in the year sit level 3 as well) .
You are given a mark which will be either 2a, 2b or 2c. 2a is above national average, 2b in line with national average and 2c is below national average.
They will be averaged out over all the topic's covered which also includes spelling and reading and given a rating e.g if the child got a 2a in reading, a 2b in maths and a 2c in spelling then they would get a 2b overall. "

Please do not read too much into them as teachers do their own assessments during the whole of year2 as some children freak out when doing tests.

third time lucky

[Feenie]

However, the teacher assessment (which is the only level required to be reported) may range from below level 1 to level 4 and above, in very very gifted children's cases. There is no ceiling on teacher assessment in Y2, but the only tests required to support the judgement are at levels 2 or 3.

Some schools may use other test materials (e.g. KS2 tests) to support their judgement, at level 4, for example. But it isn't a requirement, and isn't really necessary either with good teacher assessment. But some schools like to check with tests.

[Feenie]

Circular, Y2 children if children are working at level 2 or above, they will sit a level 2 paper or a level 3 paper - Mrz does say this.

[dragonmother]

I can't see the post mentioning 'particularly old in year' but if that were the case it would be insane. In our class we have a September 2nd child who is in the lowest ability group and half the top group are summer borns...

[thetasigmamum]

My DD2 is in Y3. Last year she sat level 2 and level 3 papers in Literacy and maths. They were not assessed by test on science. We were given levels for each paper so we got one maths level and 3 English levels for reading, writing and spelling. We got one science level evaluated on her work over the year. The maths and literacy levels related to the tests alone, but we were told they matched her work over the year so if they hadn't then we might have been given more information. We did see her maths paper since she is dyspraxic and we went through the dyspraxia compromised areas with her SENCO (essentially the ones involving either spatial awareness or accuracy in measuring when holding a ruler, that sort of thing).

In Y3 she did optional SATs and was given papers which enabled evaluation to level 4. (and maybe beyond, I don't know). She is currently taught in a Y4 group for maths and literacy.

She is the youngest child in her year so the option to do higher level papers wasn't on age!

[circular]

Mrz - are you sure they only sit a paper which allows a level 2a, 2b or 2c?

I appreciate the final levels reported are also based on teachers assessment, but they are awarding level 3's at KS1 too.

For the record, DD2 is in yr3 at a state primary, When they had KS1 SATS last year, they were not even told they were being examined. The parents were told that most of the levels were based on work throughout the year, and that tests (which were only a small part of the assessment) would take place in a particular week. I remember DD1 sniggering in the car when DD2 kept taliking about 'special workbooks' they had been doing that week. All very low key.

[mrz]

My crossing out didn't work either ragged

Hi Jessica.
In year2 they do SATs in numercy, literacy and science.
Most children will sit a level 2 paper (some who are able or particularly old in the year sit level 3 as well).
You are given a mark which will be either 2a, 2b or 2c. 2a is above national average, 2b in line with national average and 2c is below national average.
They will be averaged out over all the topic's covered which also includes spelling and reading and given a rating e.g if the child got a 2a in reading, a 2b in maths and a 2c in spelling then they would get a 2b overall.

Please do not read too much into them as teachers do their own assessments during the whole of year2 as some children freak out when doing tests.

[ragged]

Oh god, I completely flubbed my last post, didn't I? I meant to write "supposed to be done in state schools".
Can I plead 11 years of sleep deprivation? No wonder I can't hold down a job.
Slink off back under a rock now, maybe.

[mrz]

Hi Jessica. In year2 they do SATs in numercy, literacy and science. Most children will sit a level 2 paper (some who are able or particularly old in the year sit level 3 as well).
You are given a mark which will be either 2a, 2b or 2c. 2a is above national average, 2b in line with national average and 2c is below national average. They will be averaged out over all the topic's covered which also includes spelling and reading and given a rating e.g if the child got a 2a in reading, a 2b in maths and a 2c in spelling then they would get a 2b overall.

Please do not read too much into them as teachers do their own assessments during the whole of year2 as some children freak out when doing tests.

OK LadyInPink I've crossed out everything in your first post that was wrong or misleading - no Independent school bashing just correcting errors.

[ragged]

The way the SAT marking works in your private school isn't the same as the way it's supposed to be done in private schools, LadyPink.
Since we have no idea what kind of school OP's child attends, LadyPink's system may actually apply for OP.

Although personally I'd be quite unhappy if I was paying fees for a school to administer SATs. I do have a DC in private, btw, :)

[LadyInPink]

Here we go again another mnetter bashing a privately educated child.

Jessica was asking how the test marks are shown: I explained they are shown 2a, 2b 2c etc what is so wrong about that again.

[Teachermumof3]

DD attends an independant school

Everything becomes clear.