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War between my ex's and I moved away from son...

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needadvice255 · 03/03/2016 14:51

I got divorced from my husband of 15 years — 2 years ago. We have a 10 year old son together. I was the breadwinner of the family and I worked and traveled while HE was a stay at home dad.

Not long after the divorce was filed I met and fell in love with a successful man who lived 2 hours away. In the divorce decree I had given my ex 50/50 but I was primary parent with jurisdiction rights, so I could move anywhere with my son.

Well, when my new boyfriend (now husband) asked me to quit my career (making 6 figures) and move with him and have my son — I said yes. I started the process and my ex went nuts. He couldn’t BELIEVE that I was planning to move away with our son. So, he got family money and a high powered attorney to issue a TRO for my son to stay in his current school etc.

So it began a war….and I spent about 20k in legal fees in 2 weeks. My ex was trying to say there was a problem with the original decree and that he wanted a bill of review — essentially a “do over”.

My fiancé (now husband) originally told me that he would put up the money and help me fight. But, then backed off and said if we couldn’t be assured by my lawyers that we were going to win — he wasn’t going to put his money in it. THIS news came after I already quit my job and MOVED 2 hours from my son to be with my then finance...because he said he could take care of me...until I found another job.

The REAL problem began when my attorneys wouldn’t talk with him. They wouldn’t allow him in MY mediation with my ex etc. He said “if I can’t be a part of this…I’m not paying.”

So what happened? I had to give up and I granted the “bill of review” and it’s been in a standstill ever since. We had temporary orders and I worked with my ex to just fire our lawyers, come up with our agreement and hire ONE lawyers to draft it - sign it and be done with it.

Mind you — I was supposed to be paying 1000 in child support per month. I was making 175k a year and this standstill didn’t require me to pay any child support.

Anyway, my new husband has been livid about this. I haven't been paying a dime to my ex who is NOT happy...and my new husband STILL won’t let me pay for anything including my son’s tuition or tutoring etc without a major fight. Again, I got another job making about 175k a year and he makes 300k. Yes we have expenses that are nearly all we make (he has big house and sports cars etc). Virtually no money in the bank.

So that’s the back story. NOW - my new husband has been told that his contract won’t be renewed in the fall. And he is fearing he will be broke. I tried to get him to get a job near my son. Again 2 hours away. He has been reluctant. He says if we do that — he will have to rely only on my income at that time until he can build up his own practice.

I said sure, let’s downsize — that’s fine. I will support us. That seemed to be the path until 2 days ago he freaked out on me and told me that he has 2500 in child support himself and that with my child support etc — we will go bankrupt on just my salary.

I told him to go to the judge (if he isn’t making money) and tell the court that you need support lowered temporarily. He said no. He won’t do that. SO, I said — listen — I don’t know what you want from me. I make 175k. I can only do so much. I will support us and do whatever I can — but I can’t make miracles happen. He said “okay” let’s try to move and I will try to make money as fast as possible.

That was 2 days ago.

Well, yesterday I got a PLEASANT surprise (or so I thought). I found out from my divorce attorney that since a year had passed and my ex had not made any moves on the “bill of review” that the ORIGINAL DECREE will go back to being in place. So Again I will have full custody and right of jurisdiction for my SON!

She said that she felt my ex would fight for the bill of review AGAIN — but this time I should NOT grant it and I should use whatever money I can to fight him and get and KEEP full custody this time because I am no longer working those horrible hours that would make it hard for a judge to give me my son. I work from home mostly!

When I came out and told my new husband this — he felt that I was “up to something” He said that he thought this was very “suspicious” and had tried to say that he felt I was in there planning to file divorce from HIM! I told him it was ridiculous!

He said so if this is all true…what you are now telling me is that you need more money to fight?

I said yes, but I just go through my retirement first. I only have about 50k left, but I will do it. I told him the fight will be MUCH less expensive if we just live (as planning to move) in my son’s town instead of uprooting him 2-3 hours away from his dad. THAT scenario would be a awful fight.

He said well if you are going to fight at all…. and you are supporting me too because of my new business …this will be a disaster. He said I am not going to move then. You fight it out and I will get a JOB (not start a practice) in HIS town.

I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. I said….”WHY can’t we continue this plan of living near my son’s dad. It won’t be a costly fight and we were ALREADY planning to move there…”

He said no. Then he asked where I was planning to get the money -I said my retirement…I will do whatever I can.


He said I think your whole plan is to use the proceeds from my house sale (he owned it before we married)! He said you aren’t touching a dime of that…just FYI.

I said oh…so I can support you….help you start a practice and you won’t dig in anywhere to help with this? He said, well I am moving FOR You… so I don’t think I should be required to use any of my money from the house to help. You will “save us” …remember?

Then he started making fun of me and said that I have a chip on my shoulder about being able to support us …and I said nope…sorry, I don’t…I am being the BEST woman that you will ever find by OFFERING to support you in YOUR city or my SON’s…regardless. I have REQUESTED we move to be near my son…but if you won’t….fine. I will just pay for everything and support us until you get on your feet.

The fight was horrible…I actually told him to stop the car because he and I were screaming so much…I was about to nuts. I could not BELIEVE what I was hearing. He didn’t stop the car…but he continued to tell me that I was selfish, condescending and “up to no good” and then demanded that he talk with my attorney to verify the information I am telling him.

And there’s one more layer here…. my ex husband knows that my new husband is a bit crazy. He “accidentally” broke my finger during a fight by pulling on my bag. I was trying to leave and he grabbed the bag and was yanking it — and he was also yanking my hand. It not only broke my finger but twisted it and deformed it. I had to have 3 screws and a plate in my hand. He maintains it was an accident. He didn’t KNOW he had my finger….

Well the surgeon had to report it and there was a police investigation that my ex heard about. So, I know that he will use that against my husband — and so my husbands answer to that?

What’s the point of fighting for custody of your son — if you KNOW this is going to come up? We are going to lose….and I am going to be embarrassed publicly…and we are going to be further broke.

And he says that this is all proof that I’m secretly on my ex husband’s side.

I know i’ve rambled a lot here….but I need perspective. Is my husband making any sense here? I feel completely manipulated and gravely disappointed about all this….

The good news yesterday was transformed into “I didn’t expect another thing and another bill…out of this meeting…something is wrong here.."

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bella1968 · 28/03/2016 00:56

what I can't understand is that you've jumped into another relationship and left your son behind? who would put a man over her child?? very puzzling.

Do what's best for your son, please.

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DontMindMe1 · 05/03/2016 20:55

you're nearing retirement, you've got 50 left in savings and you have a young dc.

your new husband doesn't want you spending money on your dc Hmm . he's only happy if it was spent helping him set up his own practice-can you see that? it all has to be about what HE wants and HIS way, he's already shown you that he has no problem with making false promises to you, getting you to spend your money and change your whole life to suit HIM and then let you down at the last crucial stage. he isn't supporting you in any way or even putting your dc welfare first - even though he has the option to be able to help with that right now.

your dc is NOT a possession, your do not have more rights to him - HE has the right to live near both parents so he can have a good relationship with BOTH. HE is still getting to grips with the changes your divorce has brought and now you want to take away what little 'normality' and security he has left?

If YOU want to be with a 'man' like your dh then that's YOUR choice - don't force it upon your dc. your dh doesn't sound like he wants him around anyway.

you need to decide what is more important - your dc or a fickle man who can't be trusted. spending your money on your dh and his 'practice' and legal stuff that harms your dc is not the wisest way to prepare for your retirement and future personal security.

i say ditch the husband and focus on your sons needs. you can replace unsuitable partners but you can't replace your son.

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starry0ne · 03/03/2016 19:08

I am wondering why you think it is you DS best interest to change his access yet again..His Dad has arranged his life to cover childcare...You have chosen not to have 50/50 care as you thought moving away was more important ...Now you think you should just move him.

This isn't about legal rights..It is about what is right for this boy.

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PatriciaHolm · 03/03/2016 18:47

The only people benefiting from any of this are your attorneys, who must be raking it in.

Stop fighting over your son; dump the new, abusive husband, leave your son happy living with his dad and move back nearer him and be a mother. Oh and start paying child support.

Stop treating everything to do with your son as a battle to be won. He's not a spoil of war.

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DontCareHowIWantItNow · 03/03/2016 18:43

Leave your son with his Dad where he is safe and happy.

Exactly this.

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Secretlove · 03/03/2016 18:37

It all sounds like a complete mess. You also sound very agitated and hyper. Maybe that's because you have just been arguing but I don't know how you can see clearly in that state.

I agree with pps about your horrible new husband and leaving your son where he is.

I think you should calm down, reflect quietly on it all for a few days and avoid any arguing. Is there anyone impartial you can talk to about it all?

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Littlef00t · 03/03/2016 18:31

Goodness, your new DH sounds awful! He broke your finger in a fight?!

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Katenka · 03/03/2016 18:23

He's actually a very good dad and I know that he is right about a lot of this.

Why did you want to take Him away from his dad then?

Giving up your job so you do t have to pay child support?

Your ex was a stay at home dad and you were going to take your son away from him?

If a man tried to do this to his ex wife, there would up uproar. Removing the child from the main carer and giving up work so you don't have to pay anything to him?

You new dh is absuive. Do not even try and bring your son into this relationship. You need to get out too.

You jumped into this relationship far too fast. 2 years between divorcing and remarrying is very quick. May be you need to be single for a while.

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pluck · 03/03/2016 17:58

You can't afford your new husband. If you split up with him, you will able to afford everything (and won't have injuries and bankruptcy either! Shock)

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VimFuego101 · 03/03/2016 17:55

I think you should leave your son where he is if he's secure and settled. You should work on moving closer to him, not dragging him away from his father to live with you.

I'm guessing you're in the US from the terminology you use. There are severe consequences for not paying child support there - even if you lose your job it's not automatic that the amount drops, you need to get a court order to vary it. I would highly suggest you get that up to date unless you want to risk prison/losing your driving license/ your professional certification being suspended.

Your new husband sounds like he needs a whole other thread to himself. He is abusive and you should not make your son live with him.

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Gazelda · 03/03/2016 17:52

Your DH sounds volatile. You've known him for less than 2 years. Has he spent time with your DS?
I'd move closer to your DS, tell your DH that if he can act reasonably then you'll talk with him about setting up home together again, but at the moment you feel a separation is the most sensible option.

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VikingVolva · 03/03/2016 17:46

I think it might be $ not £, as the terminology/processes seem different.

So I've no idea about the likely legal processes.

But I agree with other posters that you need to get away from current H, before he injures you again. So not let him anywhere near your DS.

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wallywobbles · 03/03/2016 17:42

Fuck it all. Do what you need to do, act like you are single - say you can come or not come, this is what I am doing. But frankly I hope he doesn't come.

Get legal advice about the rights/costs for (STBX)H2 since if he is about to be laid off, does that mean you'll be paying alimony (if that's what its called) to him too?

If I can make an observation, so many of us have fought tooth and nail to keep our kids in the face of abusive ex-partners. Its a torment beyond description, so the fact that you are basically choosing - and it is your choice - to not do the necessary for your kid and to stay with your abusive partner is beyond understanding for many of us.

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lunar1 · 03/03/2016 17:39

Do you know Atenco, I missed that and it's a good point. Very sadly if the genders were reversed I think I'd have seen it right away. Claiming to be broke on one/two wages of £175000 is beyond a joke!

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Atenco · 03/03/2016 17:22

Withholding child support, OP, sounds abusive. The child support is for your son and you are rolling in it.

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Goingtobeawesome · 03/03/2016 17:09

Leave your bullying husband and move back to where your son is.

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AliceInUnderpants · 03/03/2016 17:05

and he is thinking that I am doing something "suspicious" or "setting something up behind his back" ...it's ridiculous.

You should be. You should be making plans to leave your husband, filing for divorce and actually being a mother

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MTPurse · 03/03/2016 16:40

Leave your son with his Dad where he is safe and happy.

Divorce your Husband and move closer to Your son so you can have a relationship with him.

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lunar1 · 03/03/2016 16:37

Good not god!

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lunar1 · 03/03/2016 16:37

What ever you do, if you stay with this
Man leave your son with his dad for goodness sake. Your life and relationship doesn't sound like a good life for a child right now.

God on you ex for stopping you leaving with his child.

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hownottofuckup · 03/03/2016 16:35

Leave DS with his dad. When you (hopefully) finally leave your abusive DH you can start trying to rebuild your relationship with DS then.

Whatever you do, do not bring DS in an abusive household.

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coffeeisnectar · 03/03/2016 16:34

Leave your dh. The relationship sounds hellish and he seems like a 5 year old trying to score points.

Move nearer your son and see more of him. Don't remove him from his dad's care, he's probably settled and happy. Don't uproot him and please don't drag him into a home if you still live with your dh.

What does your son want? Apart from not being in the middle of three warring adults?

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QuiteLikely5 · 03/03/2016 16:33

You left your financial security, your sons home to move him two hours away with a new man when you had just broken up from his father?

His father wanted to prevent you from leaving town with his son and you spent 20k trying to get your own way? Trying to remove your son from his school/friends and his primary carer?

Words fail me.

If you do anything at all, how about putting your son and his feelings first instead of worrying about your own and your husbands desires. He has kids?

So do they live near?

You earn a combined income of 460000 yet you are both skint!

Come of it love

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AuntieStella · 03/03/2016 16:33

It's not about a 'fight' with your XH.

It's about the interests of your DS, and how highly detrimental it would be for him to have any exposure whatsoever to a man who breaks his mother's fingers.

You don't have to accept his description of what is going on. Indeed, you would be highly unwise to. The key thing is that you get safely away from this man who has broken your bones, controlled you career, stymied your financial independence and is wrecking your DS's experience of mature child-focussed co-parenting.

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needadvice255 · 03/03/2016 16:25

I havne't....that's the point. That's why I didn't fight very hard to take him with me....I knew he was better off with his dad. Now I do NOT believe that if I am alone. I am a very good mother but I have been very unstable because of the many fights I have had with my husband. I had to work yesterday and instead I didn't even go to half the meetings I needed to because we were screaming at each other all day....he was so mean -- and it got SO MUCH WORSE after I got out of the lawyers office. I thought this was GOOD NEWS. If I move back to my son's town....I get my son back 50 percent of time and possibly lower child support.

But no -- not good news...he saw all this as very bad because it will cost us money...and he is thinking that I am doing something "suspicious" or "setting something up behind his back" ...it's ridiculous.

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