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Expressions which will seem dated in 50 years time? (Possibly distressing for pedants).

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MardyBra · 28/01/2014 18:36

I sometimes wonder which expressions will win out.

When I'm older and greyer will it seem weird and anachronistic to say:

Could have/Would have/Should have
Texted (although texting probably won't exist any more)
Disgusting?

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itsatiggerday · 28/01/2014 21:50

bored with. My Dad is already the only person I've ever known to persist in correcting bored of except me now obviously

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HelpTheSnailsAreComingToGetMe · 28/01/2014 21:51

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PipkinsPal · 28/01/2014 21:52

Perhaps "bang on trend" will be obsolete and "all the rage" back in.

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barbarianoftheuniverse · 28/01/2014 22:29

my latin teacher was the opposite of yours, Helpthesnails, he used to say "if it's good enough for the Almighty it's good enough for me".
(He also only had 1 and 1/2 ears due to being bitten by a monkey called Matilda in India. This made him bad tempered so that he threw things.)

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barbarianoftheuniverse · 28/01/2014 22:33

Meant to saw it will be nice when 'awesome' goes.
I force 'whom' on the dcs regularly. Also 'thus'. They hate it.

I think (h)otel has just about gone but I am hanging on to aitch no matter how many times call operators correct me.

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SconeForAStroll · 28/01/2014 22:57

Awesome is already being replaced by epic. Grin

Soz Mardy my love - fabbo thread

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HelpTheSnailsAreComingToGetMe · 28/01/2014 23:10

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Salmotrutta · 28/01/2014 23:18

People who say new-cue-lar will soon outnumber those of us who say it correctly Sad

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Confitdecanard · 29/01/2014 00:06

This thread has reminded me if this Stephen Fry clip. You may have seen it already but it makes some interesting points about the evolution of language and pedantry in general

m.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY

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Confitdecanard · 29/01/2014 00:08

My post is missing a full stop and needs *of instead of if. Sorry if I made you twitch!

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alexpolistigers · 29/01/2014 17:46

I think "computer" will be very outdated before long.

And "terribly", as in "that's terribly nice of you"

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frugalfuzzpig · 29/01/2014 17:55

Figuratively, instead of a misused 'literally' since apparently literally can now mean either literally or figuratively

That bit in The Big Bang Theory where Zack says "I haven't been to a comic book store in literally a million years" and Sheldon responds with "LITERALLY? LITERALLY a million years?!?" will not make sense to future generations :(

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PipkinsPal · 30/01/2014 15:16

I was called a legend the other day because I accommodated someone with an appointment time that was acceptable to them Confused. I said I was not that old!

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StealthPolarBear · 30/01/2014 15:18

How do you do?

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EmilyAlice · 31/01/2014 05:44

Frock. Which is a shame because I love it to bits. Pronounced frawk if I am feeling very 1950s.

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PrimalLass · 31/01/2014 05:51

My 5-year-old says 'puck' instead of picked. We should adopt that because she sounds so cuteGrin

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EmilyAlice · 31/01/2014 06:03

Actually frock is probably already 50 years out of date.
I was just trying to remember the Michael Rosen poem written when Gove wanted to insist on the teaching of the subjunctive. I think it went something like this;
If I were you
Be that as it may
Learn a subjunctive every day.
Smile

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ThreeBeeOneGee · 31/01/2014 07:10

My grandmother used the word 'frock'. Also 'slacks' for trousers. If she disagreed with something, it was 'absolute eyewash!'

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meditrina · 31/01/2014 07:41

I still say 'frock' (my DD once asked if I'd had a pet iguanodon as a girl).

I wonder if "news" (pron: njews) will be driven out by (pron: noos)? After all, no-one, except a few elderly speakers, still say Susan as "Sjusan" (the standard RP pronunciation).

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dementedma · 12/02/2014 19:30

Dsylexic dd used to use squoze as the past of squeeze, which I really liked.

We had a family friend ill recently and she wanted to wish him well so I suggested she "drop him a line".
She looked baffled and asked " A line of what?"

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SconeRhymesWithGone · 13/02/2014 14:21

The who/whom distinction is definitely already on the way out. Will other object/subject distinctions go as well? Me and Jane will go to the shop. Please come with Jane and I.

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UterusUterusGhali · 02/03/2014 03:55

Thrice is all but gone.

As an expression, to "pull the chain" after using the loo makes no sense any more, as so few toilets have an actual pull-flush. Our children will use it perhaps, but not know why.

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chateauferret · 02/03/2014 14:19

"You and I", etc. is already pretty badly understood. I saw the Tes Minister episode last night in which Sir Humphrey admits being the official at the centre of a ghastly cockup 30 years earlier; he says "it was I". Absolutely correct, but it kinda sounds quaint now. (If he'd been a German speaker "ich war's" would be right. But in French "l'État. c'est moi" is preferable to "je suis l'État", which is however not ungrammatical).

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chateauferret · 02/03/2014 14:37

Now, the thing that really gets on my nipples is this. "They", "them" and "their" are all plural pronouns on English. People are using them as singular pronouns of neuter or mixed gender and by extension as singular pronouns when they can't be bothered to think about gender. "The applicant sends in their form". It annoys me even more when there is a gender but the writer just ignores it. "Alexander was late for their appointment last week". A aargh!

It happens because English doesn't separate grammatical gender from natural gender. We don't like it when we refer to a person who might be female or male in natural gender with a pronoun with one or the other grammatical gender (usually masculine) because we think they don't agree.

I write "he or she", etc. usually, but I think just "he" is correct, "she" is affected and PC, and "they" is just plain wrong.

Also "it" is almost always wrong too; it's funny how often in Scotland in particular pets (and babies) are referred to with neuter gender, even where the natural gender is known. ("See Jemima the cat? It bit me"). For me though the rules of English grammar require that the target of a neuter pronoun be inanimate (some people also use neuter pronouns for people as a deliberate insult).

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chateauferret · 02/03/2014 14:49

I'm not sure "shall" will be around forever, at least in some dialects. I know a lot of people in England who never use it and only use "will". It has a useful distinct meaning though, especially in the second person. "You shall have a cake for tea, but just now you will go to school".

Fowler says to think of the two verbs cross-conjugated, IIRC. "Shall" conjugates "I will, you shall, he shall", connoting obtaining some benefit or carrying out some intention, whereas "will" conjugates "I shall, you will, he will", and connotes 'whether we like it or not'.

I write requirements for IT systems and I use the two verbs differently in a quite precise way. "Shall" means something this project is required to do and which is being paid for. "Will" means it will happen anyway and we must handle that. "The customer base will grow from 1 million in 2012 to 2 million in 2015. The system shall scale to meet the corresponding demand".

"Shall" seem to enjoy wider use in Scotland than England though.

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