No local lockdowns in England

[Pickagoddamnname]

Every thread I click on there is false information about ‘local lockdowns’. Please can I just clarify there are none AT ALL in England. Unless you class a local lockdown as being able to shop for leisure, being able to travel out of area and visit pubs or restaurants there etc etc. There are extra restrictions but no local lockdowns. The media are just spreading this shite.

[Frazzled2207]

@TheSeedsOfADream
I know you weren’t literally but friends in Italy told me they might as well have been as could only leave in very limited circumstances. Hence I said “effectively”. But definitely as I understand it rules in England have been far more lax and could never really be considered “lockdown” imo.

[cabbageking]

I can not visit my family in the local lock down area,
Local council sent out info saying 90% of cases were from families visiting families. If I am a risk to them, I will stay away even though I observe all the safety measures.

[BoJoTookMyMojo]

@HarrietOh

Agreed it's definitely not a good idea using the term lockdown when it's not, we simply can't go in people's houses or gardens but can meet them in pubs, restaurants, outdoors etc, that's the only difference to rest of England.

I don't know where you are, but here in the North East we are not supposed to meet people from other households socially at all, indoors or outdoors.

[Bedraggledmumoftwo]

I live nowhere near any restrictions and have to confess that I thought the local"lockdowns" were exactly that until I read a thread on here about someone going on holiday.

I don't think the press should use that terminology if it isnt- even Bolton with nearly 250/100000 are apparently asked to obey restrictions to avoid local lockdown.

But the first local lockdown, for Leicester, they had much lower numbers than that and actually restricted movement, so unless you live in an affected area it seems reasonable to assume the same applies to the other areas the press describe as lockdown.

Added to this there is the fact that the quarantine restrictions for traveling overseas are so Draconian as to not let you walk the dog- when you only have to have been somewhere with over 20 cases.... So that had left me with the impression that current measures were much stricter that the march lockdown.

[HarrietOh]

Agreed it's definitely not a good idea using the term lockdown when it's not, we simply can't go in people's houses or gardens but can meet them in pubs, restaurants, outdoors etc, that's the only difference to rest of England.

[TheSeedsOfADream]

I'm in Italy and we were never locked in our homes.

[Frazzled2207]

Lockdown is what they had in Italy and China where people were effectively locked in their homes ,as if they left without a very good reason they were fined or (in China) taken away. Never had anything like that here.

[ceeveebee]

Ive been under these rules since end of July. I haven’t seen my parents since February either and haven’t seen some of my closest friends because they live in areas that you can’t even socialise outside never mind indoors, believe me I totally get it

OPs point is that those who aren’t living under it are assuming it’s a proper lockdown ie. not allowed to leave area, and are criticising people for doing things which are totally within the guidelines. There are a couple of threads on here recently where the OP is going on a UK holiday and was totally crucified about breaking some fictional rules.

[Itsabeautifuldayheyhey]

I agree with you OP. I live in an area with additional restricted measures (or measure as the only difference from the rest of England who don't have additional restrictions is not being able to mix with other households in private homes or gardens).

My local authority website has FAQs that include:
"Is this a local lockdown?"

"No, these restrictions only apply to the mixing of households in private households and gardens."

The media, however, with their usual tendency to hyperbole and making a story out of nothing, refer to it as a local lockdown which pees me off immensely. One simple additional temporary restriction and you'd think we'd all been imprisoned.

[KitKatastrophe]

Its just semantics. Why does it matter to you if someone says "local lockdown" rather than "local additional restrictions"? We all know what they mean.

Do you think people shouldnt be upset about not being able to visit friends and family or having other additional restrictions, because it's not a lockdown?

[eausolovely]

I don’t think it really makes any difference what wording is used. It’s easier to say local lockdown than local more restrictions on socialising than other places. As someone in local lockdown it doesn’t make it any less shit. I can’t tell you how little I care about going to the pub or for a meal, what most people want is to be able to see their family.

[BatShite]

Local lockdown unless what you want to do costs or makes money. Would possibly be the best way to put it

[cabbageking]

Wolverhampton local lock down included not meeting others not in your bubble in or out of the area.

[DdraigGoch]

@Pickagoddamnname

Wales seem to be doing the local lockdowns and from what I’ve heard have county lines patrolled.

"County lines" are an entirely different thing to what you're thinking of.

[DdraigGoch]

A little smaller scale than you're thinking of but aren't there some halls of residence in Manchester which are de facto under a strict lockdown? Pretty sure that the rules being enforced there are far stricter than even countries such as France, Italy or Spain at the height of the pandemic. Pretty much a house arrest situation.

[amusedtodeath1]

We know it's not a lockdown, but it's just a way of saying "more restrictions than the standard ones".

If you really want to be pedantic, we haven't had a lockdown at all as we've all been able to leave our homes, for some work, shopping, exercise, etc., regardless of the level of restrictions.

[Pickagoddamnname]

@ceeveebee that’s it exactly! I dared to leave my are today to go to a specialist shop and have a walk and got a royal rollicking off a friend who was so angry I could risk others by breaking my local lockdown. We’ve had extra restrictions for 2 months here. We have no family in our town and we’re struggling enough without the guilt tripping from people who can’t get their facts straight.

[Pickagoddamnname]

@Chloemol So people don’t know what it means though. That’s why I’ve posted.

@PickAChew Neither can I. Which is why I’m annoyed that people are saying things like ‘it’s people like you spreading the virus’ if I dare cross my towns border to go for a walk or to a shop there.

I’m not saying the restrictions aren’t enough and us folk in areas with local restrictions aren’t suffering because of it because I know I really am. I’m saying people need to understand the facts of what is in place before they harp on about what people in these areas should be doing.

[ceeveebee]

It irritates me when those who are not in these areas make assumptions about what we are allowed to do - telling us that we aren’t allowed to drive out of the area or go on holiday etc when the guidelines clearly say we can

[Chloemol]

Who cares, I know what it means,

[PickAChew]

I am not allowed to visit my own parents. Is tat not lockdown enough for you?

[Judystilldreamsofhorses]

I’m in Aberdeen and we had three weeks of local lockdown due to a cluster of infection linked to bars. Five mile travel restriction, all hospitality closed, and no mixing households indoors. It was definitely referred to as a local lockdown by Nicola Sturgeon.

We (all of Scotland) now have no mixing households indoors, plus the hospitality curfew the rest of the U.K. has.

[Pickagoddamnname]

Wales seem to be doing the local lockdowns and from what I’ve heard have county lines patrolled.

[ceeveebee]

Think that’s only in the Leicester guidance which was a lockdown - non essential shops were closed and there was a travel ban on leaving the area

[Pickagoddamnname]

Leicester had a local lockdown and is the only place in England to have had one so far. From my understanding (from the difference in local lockdown and extra restrictions) the local lockdown is basically not being allowed to leave the area without good reason. That way the outbreak can be contained and reduced with the extra restrictions in place. That really isn’t what is happening though as everyone is free to travel to escape to an area without the same restrictions