If there is never a vaccine how do you envisage your dcs future?

[incognitomum]

Because there might never be one.

And do you wish the UK had reacted like Sweden? I'm beginning to wish I lived there.

[Inkpaperstars]

Oh God I remember that Boris guff about 'send coronavirus packing', so cringe.

people who happily report on their neighbours for minor rule breaking or judge people who are struggling with mental health

I am sorry if you've encountered anyone like this, I have only read about them on MN but in real life they remain mythical figures.

[HesterShaw1]

So odd how different threads attract such different attitudes and posts. Thanks for thos one.

I was trying to express similar sentiments on another thread a couple of days ago and go torn to shreds.

[MaxNormal]

@Porcupineinwaiting aye with nae money, sooooo privileged

[Porcupineinwaiting]

Quite the opposite @MaxNormal. If you dont have to worry about the affects of COVID, then you are the one in a privileged bubble.

[SomewhereEast]

My children (5 & 8) will be fine longterm because at some point we will actually get a sense of proportion & decide that a functional society & economy might actually be worth having. I feel absolutely gutted for this generation of 16-28 year olds though, especially the ones from less advantaged backgrounds. They really are being treated as acceptable collateral damage.

[Pagwatch]

My children are older so whilst I worry about the effect of COVID on a levels and uni etc, I worry far more about the economic clusterfuck we are going to experience when the asshats in charge let us crash out of Europe . I think the economic damage done by COVID Id going to be made 100 times worse.

[MadameBlobby]

“We’ll send Coronavirus packing in 12 weeks” was the Boris Bullshit back in March @IcedPurple 🙄

[incognitomum]

A future with only SD and masks! that's chilling.

[MadameBlobby]

@KitKatastrophe

So glad that common sense is prevailing here and seeing that covid and social distancing aren't forever.

I distinctly remember a MN comment in April/May time along the lines of "our grandchildren will find it incredible that we ever gathered together in big groups without social distancing". They were so certain that social distancing would be here forever, with no logical thought about human nature and the continuance of the human race!

ClimbDad as well and his “people won’t go to gigs ever again” proclamations. Enough to make you want to slit your throat

[KitKatastrophe]

So glad that common sense is prevailing here and seeing that covid and social distancing aren't forever.

I distinctly remember a MN comment in April/May time along the lines of "our grandchildren will find it incredible that we ever gathered together in big groups without social distancing". They were so certain that social distancing would be here forever, with no logical thought about human nature and the continuance of the human race!

[KitKatastrophe]

I would imagine that over time it would end up as an illness not unlike chicken pox. In that the young will get it, mostly uneventfully, and the majority of the population will have some natural immunity as they will have had it in the past, and even if they do get it again it'll be more mild.
I agree with this. In 30 years time the kids will find it unbelievable that we locked down for months over it, although at the time it may have been the right thing to do.

[TheLastStarfighter]

@Natsku

I expect effective treatments will be found and it won't be such a worry. Life will be pretty much normal. Glad I'm not in Sweden though, I'm next door in Finland and the consensus here is that Sweden has managed things poorly, having far higher levels than in Finland, and it didn't even save their economy compared to Finland at least (compared to the UK, yeah but the UK is so very different to Sweden its not a good comparison)

That's really interesting Natsku!

[frozendaisy]

At one point during lockdown-lockdown our kids seemed quite inspired to pursue a "medical" career to help solve all the world's ills.......so that seemed hopeful, regardless of how possible it might be.

But that seems to have fizzled out at the moment!

[Tootletum]

Yes I do wish we had reacted like Sweden, to the extent we were able to with the chronic underfunding of health care. I think once they built the hospitals and found the steroid treatments, all other measures should have been moved off the statute book and become voluntary.

[Frazzled2207]

oh and the really obvious thing is that herd immunity will eventually happen -possibly helped by a vaccine. Even if having it once doesn't mean you never get it again if it means you are less likely to get it and/or you get it milder second time it will eventually fizzle out.

[IcedPurple]

@MarshaBradyo

It’ll get better even without a vaccine

Are people still fairly positive there will be one?

Yes.

[Frazzled2207]

a vaccine is obviously going to help enormously in the short medium term but in the longer term I think we will rely on regular testing - hopefully with saliva and very quick results - and also medication will become better.
I read last week that doctors have discovered that hydrocortizone - which is widely avaliable and cheap as chips - can aid recovery. There may even be a cure at some point but a vaccine is more likely and signs are very promising that there will be a few to choose from next year.

[MarshaBradyo]

It’ll get better even without a vaccine

Are people still fairly positive there will be one?

[IcedPurple]

@MaxNormal

we are just being asked to make some changes for 12-18 months.

"Just"?
God, people here really are happy in their little privileged bubbles.

And weren't we 'just being asked to make some changes' for a few months back in March?

[MaxNormal]

we are just being asked to make some changes for 12-18 months.

"Just"?
God, people here really are happy in their little privileged bubbles.

[IcedPurple]

@Porcupineinwaiting

We cant carry on like this for ever

Why do people keep bleating this? There's never been any suggestion that we live like this "forever," we are just being asked to make some changes for 12-18 months.

Where did you get that exact time frame from?

[Porcupineinwaiting]

We cant carry on like this for ever

Why do people keep bleating this? There's never been any suggestion that we live like this "forever," we are just being asked to make some changes for 12-18 months.

[TokyoSushi]

This will pass.

Yes, it'll become something like chickenpox, for the vast majority of people, it will be relatively mild. It's just something we're going to have to live with. We can't carry on like this forever.

[MadameBlobby]

I had chicken pox as an adult and have had a terrible predisposition to chest infections ever since. Don’t fancy Covid!

[Porcupineinwaiting]

If there is no vaccine then cv will (slowly or quickly) pass through the population after which it will largely subside, just flaring up hre and there every now and then, just like other similar viruses. Maybe there'll be better treatments available so it will be less lethal. And life will continue.