So we are staying lockdown until June at the earliest?

[Mummypig2020]

Just seen on daily fail (sorry!) that Boris is going to announce that we will be lockdown until June at least.

Not sure if I can cope that long. 😩

[dreamingbohemian]

I don't think they are 'backtracking' here in Germany. The upper classes go back to school starting this week. They have not decided yet about the younger classes. They need to split classes in half to have distancing and there are not enough teachers and classrooms in most schools.

The FT article is paywalled so I don't know what it says. But I don't think there will be serious backtracking here unless there is a really steep rise in cases, which is not happening yet. There is enormous pressure to reopen here.

[JassyRadlett]

The German government may well be reconsidering as latest research there indicates that children spread it just as much as adults.

I meant specifically on the social distancing guidelines. In Germany it’s 1.5m; WHO says 1m.

I don’t think the research said that, did it? Only that children who are infected had similar levels of circulating virus meaning it was likely that an individual child who had tested positive would transmit as easily. But nothing on levels of infection in children and whether children spread it as much as adults, particularly given some of the other studies on index cases and child to adult transmission. Unless there’s one I’ve missed - can you share?

[Itisasecret]

www.ft.com/content/fdf893d5-40a0-4645-87fb-471b0f5e7ad0

Maybe behind a paywall.

[Bluntness100]

The German government haven’t back tracked have they? They have always said they will watch it carefully and constrict and relax as appropriate. As of yet they have made no changes.

[Itisasecret]

The German government are backtracking on the fully reopening of schools, after the rise in R when Denmark opened theirs.

[phlebasconsidered]

The German government may well be reconsidering as latest research there indicates that children spread it just as much as adults.

I am a teacher and I will probably have to go back when directed but knowing schools as I do - and utter sheer impossibility of social distancing within them- I will not be sending my own children back. And that should tell you all you need to know.

[JassyRadlett]

The relaxing of the 2m rule thing is just bollocks to get everyone back at school and therefore, work. If they do that, I won't be sending my children back and I know my husband's work won't return to the offices they work out of because none of us trust the government.

Do you trust the WHO? The German government?

[ememem84]

My personal feeling on this is that we carry on as we were during lockdown. Keep our distance. Go out when necessary and don’t get too complacent with the relaxing. I have a feeling we’ll be back locked down in a few weeks.

Our schools are supposedly going back on 1 June. Full classes with social distancing. Dsis teaches and she has said it’s absolutely impossible to manage. She has 29 in her class. Unless they make classrooms much much bigger (impossible) it won’t happen.

[ememem84]

rookie I’m in Jersey.

Not a lot of people are happy about it if I’m honest as the feeling here is that we’re being “tested” almost. Michael Gove said that the U.K. islands should be used as a trial to lift lockdown....seems as though our gov have thought this is also a good idea...

The new rules are confusing. As a household (of 4) we can meet with two other people. But for example, my parents in their household of 2 can meet with two other people. So in theory they can’t see all 4 of us.

The over 65’s are being told to stay home. Which means that again dparents shouldn’t see the dc.

We’ve been told that bars etc can open. But social distancing. And masks must be worn at all time when in them. Which will make eating difficult....the communication is incredibly misleading.

Our chief minister did a broadcast yesterday setting out the new rules and said that of course children can see grandparents and hug them inside their own houses. But meet ups must be outside only and we must stay 2m away from each other.

I’m going to struggle keeping DS (age 2.5) 2m away from grandma and grandad!! And keeping them away from both dc!

Antibody testing is starting here this weekend. 500 households are being tested. Then if this shows to be useful the remainder of the 100,000 tests will be rolled out among our population.

[userxx]

@Humina Are you waiting for the vaccine then?

[daisymay133]

I agree that’s what it is but no doubt it’ll force the majority back as many employers will stick to those new guidelines

[Humina]

The relaxing of the 2m rule thing is just bollocks to get everyone back at school and therefore, work. If they do that, I won't be sending my children back and I know my husband's work won't return to the offices they work out of because none of us trust the government.

[daisymay133]

Yes I agree

All reporting seems to suggest return to work end of May so another 2-3 weeks with schools at same time

Suggestions of relaxing the two metre rule mean that schools may even all go back en mass

[Changeyname40]

I don't understand why this would be a surprise to anyone.

Everyone has completely forgotten that Boris Johnson emphatically said when he announced the lockdown at the beginning from 23 March that it would take us 12 weeks, 12 weeks to get on top of this horrible disease, or words to that effect.
I was looking for some indication so these words are ENGRAINED in my brain like a photograph.

Secondly, the furlough scheme was extended mid April until end June. It HAD to be because companies legally have to give 6 weeks notice of redundancy.

My personal hunch is he wil give us a broad plan next week, keep us in lockdown another 2 week, then he will give us solid dates.

[Actionhasmagic]

I mentally prepared for three month lockdown - of course I miss family but I don’t want them to catch it

[Appuskidu]

We’ve just had our lockdown restrictions relaxed a bit. Now allowed 4 hours outside the house for activities. And can meet up woth 2 people outside our household. Bars restaurants and cafes are opening again as of today. Social distancing expected. Further lifting a will happen on May 11th. We’ve just had our nightingale hospital built at a cost of £14m. A lot of people here think that because the building is only on loan until August the restrictions are being lifted so our gov get some use out of it.....cynical.

Where are you?

[Orchidflower1]

It’s not that people think it’s unsympathetic to say “ stay at home”

The lock down is having an enormous effect on my MH and that of my family.
BUT the death of a member of my family would have a BIGGER effect.

I also recognise the fact that ptsd will be rife amongst hcp- caring for people and trying their best in a bloody awful situation.

I appreciate that many people have awful living conditions and no outside space.

What pisses me off to the maximum is people like sharon down the road “ can’t live without getting her roots done” so she’s sodded off to sally up the road to do her hair dye.

MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. SOME ARE NOT. OF THOSE WHO ARE NOT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO NEED TO STAY AT HOME!!!

[rookiemere]

emem where are you ? Can't figure it out as thought Nightingale hospitals were UK only ? I like the sound of being able to meet with a couple of friends.

[bellinisurge]

Starduststatic , I'm not sure why you think I don't have empathy for a person I know well who is in distress over this. I also have empathy for a person grieving the loss of a loved one. I'm old enough to understand the agony of grief and depression. You are confusing me with the bluster brigade.

[SallyWD]

I hate the politics of the Daily Fail but admit I look at the website simply because it's very readable,like picking up a magazine. I don't fall for any of their bullshit!

[GrimmsFairytales]

amelisa1 So it's not quite as simple as your original comment made it out to be.
Well... nannies can still work in the households. Maybe your friend can hire one for couple of hours?

She can't actually get a nanny. I'm glad I didn't mention it to her. It would be beyond cruel to suggest something that would make a massive difference to someone who is struggling, only to then have to tell her it's not actually possible after all.

[ememem84]

We’ve just had our lockdown restrictions relaxed a bit. Now allowed 4 hours outside the house for activities. And can meet up woth 2 people outside our household. Bars restaurants and cafes are opening again as of today. Social distancing expected.

Further lifting a will happen on May 11th.

We’ve just had our nightingale hospital built at a cost of £14m. A lot of people here think that because the building is only on loan until August the restrictions are being lifted so our gov get some use out of it.....cynical.

[RedRiverShore]

I bloody hope that DH is back in the office soon, I'm fed up of the constant video calls going on all day, every day, the sooner he gets back the better though I suspect he won't go back at all now as he retires at the end of the year. If he was just at his desk working quietly it would be fine but it's blah, blah, blah all day

[Drivingdownthe101]

Postnatal period was utter bliss for me and close family who've had babies! Especially with the first. They just sleep

Fab for you and them (genuinely!). I agree that it was dire with all three of mine (mine far from ‘just slept’) and feel the same now.

[Dranktoomuchpepsi]

It reminds me of that immediate postnatal period when every day is slow and gruelling and relief seems like it’ll never come.

Postnatal period was utter bliss for me and close family who've had babies! Especially with the first. They just sleep