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Children's health

How many breaths per minute is normal for a 5 1/2 week old?

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princessmel · 03/12/2009 10:20

Thanks.

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 08/12/2009 17:03

Sorry to hear that Princessmel, I had a feeling thats what might happen. Bloody horrible isn't it. Glad you are out and all fine now.

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Snooch · 07/12/2009 16:12

Sorry, that should be our 2.8 YEAR old...

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Snooch · 07/12/2009 16:03

Gosh Princessmel, we just had this on the weekend with our 2.8 month old - also went to see the GP, she whipped out a mask there and then in the room, then called an ambulance and went off to A & E - his sats were 75 when we got there. When he was discharged yesterday he was around 92 - they were happy to let him go as he was causing a bit of a rumpus in the wards - all the meds had made him totally hyper and in their words "couldn't sit still"

So glad your DS is better now - SO SO scary, even more so with a baby so young

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princessmel · 07/12/2009 09:50

Hi all, just thought I'd let you know that we ended up in hospital. I took him back to the gp's on friday and they sent us back to A & E in an ambulance. His breathing was fast and he had ressesions in his tummy, I could see his ribs sticking out. When the ambulance came into the room they put an oxygen mask on him and we went to hosp with lights and siren on. Very scary.
He was head bobbing and using his accessory muscles to breathe , plus he had a tuck in his neck.
He stayed in hospital from friday to sunday evening.
He was on oxygen and a drip as feeding was too much of an effort for him.
They said his normal breathing should be about 45-50 breaths per minute, some of the time it was in the late 70's. His sats were between 93 and 100 on the day we went home.

Thank you for helping me when I was worried.
He is currently asleep on me after a bf.

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needanamefast · 03/12/2009 13:56

Hi
one finger typing as feeding sorry for mistakes in advance

i'm a GP

she may well have had a virus yesterday but its possible to have secondary bacterial infections on top - so things may have changes

essentially if you feel she is worse in any way - breathing faster - working harder to breathe (take her clothes off and look at her chest - is she sucking in very hard so her ribs stick out or does she appear to be sucking in the muscles at the bottom of the chest) is she feeding less etc. if so take her back to Gp today. they shouldn't mind and should have explained if things gets worse, she needs to be seen today.

not back on mumsnet for a while but hope that helps

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 13:19

Oh well that is really good then. DS2 was released with his at 95, so you can take some reassurance from that hopefully.

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princessmel · 03/12/2009 12:04

Just spoke to dh and he said that the oxygen sat results was 99.

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 11:28

Fingers crossed he is ok, but please if he gets any faster go in. Do you know the signs to look for that he is working too hard to breathe? In case you don't they are;

The dip between his collar bones noticeably going in and out as he breathes

His stomach muscles where his ribs are working very hard so that you can see his stomach going in and out, most concerning if it doing that rapidly.

HTH

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princessmel · 03/12/2009 11:25

thanks suwoo x

He's calm and settled now. asleep on me. dd is being dropped back any minute.

if he speeds up again, we'll go.

in fact we have to collect prescriptions from doctors later, so i could talk to doctor then.

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 11:05

Obviously that wasn't my words, I'm a weight watchers leader not a respitory therapist

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 11:02

To be honest as a respiratory therapist in a hosptial who did cardiac surgery on patients as young as a week old... I have taken children off oxygen at a level of 78 percent with doctors orders. There are certain conditions with babies that the low saturation is not a for certain indicator of death.

levels of o2 depend on age and health.
normal should be 90-100
panic should be below 87 however certain conditions permit lower levels. Talk with the doctors or health care people

I am soo sorry about your situation and you wil be in my prayers.
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Found the above too.

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 11:01

Found this but very complicated

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 10:59

I'm not sure what it actually means, something to do with their oxygen intake ie if its less than 95 they may need to be admitted and given oxygen through a mask. DS was at 88, which is a lot higher than DD who was almost at deaths door and had to be ventilated.

Hopefully someone will be along who knows or maybe do a quick google. It should be the first thing they check when presenting with the symptoms Freddie has.

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princessmel · 03/12/2009 10:48

what does oxygen sats mean? ?(thankfully i'm not expert in all this)

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 10:44

My dd was like this for weeks, we listened to the dr who said just a virus and she ended up seriously ill with pneumonia.

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princessmel · 03/12/2009 10:43

ok, he's fallen asleep, feeding. timed again and it was about 54 this time.

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 10:43

You can see them on the monitor. Anything less than 95 and they will keep them in, thats what they said at the 2 hospitals we were sent to. Also in an ambulance with oxygen.

Go back Mel.

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princessmel · 03/12/2009 10:41

yes but didnt tell me the results, they never do

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princessmel · 03/12/2009 10:40

he's been pv on and off the last week after coughing, not been well for 2 weeks really which is why gp sent us in

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 10:39

Did they do his oxygen sats with the monitor that goes on his toe?

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 10:38

We went with those symptoms plus projectile vomiting and ds was 16 weeks. We were kept in.

You need to go back and IMO be kept in.

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princessmel · 03/12/2009 10:38

at the gps it was fast, but at hosp not so fast. typical

they said theres nothing they can do there that i cant do at home

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princessmel · 03/12/2009 10:37

Just got back from the hospital with Freddie, I went to the Gp earlier and he they sent us in an ambulance, very scary. Gp wanted the pediatrition to check him over as his heart rate and breathing were a bit fast. Plus he could hear crackles in his chest and he had a temp. Oh and a rash on chest and shoulders.
It's prob a virus (isn't it always?).
He's also had green poos for the last 2 weeks, since he's had the cough/cold. If his nappies are still not right in another week they'll prob test for lactose intolerance. I hope the poos are green because of the virus and not that he's having cold symptoms cos he's intolerant iyswim.

this was yest post

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SuWoombOfImmaculateConception · 03/12/2009 10:36

Yep, back to A&E. DS2 was roughy 60pm and his oxygen sats were 88.

Sorry to hear this Mel, but you must go back asap.

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NotQuiteCockney · 03/12/2009 10:34

That's a lot. I would be back at hospital, I'm afraid.

No stress re: bad typing.