Jo Frost

[idontbelieveit]

Have just seen a bit of American Supernanny where jo pretty much forced a mother to wean her 14 moth old bf baby to help the mother "grow as a person" and because bfing at this age was an unhealthy emotional bond . She was attempting to wean her onto a bottle at nap time. It upset me too much to watch anymore.

[priceyp]

what's uncomfortable about this image is the way the mother is looking at the camera. She is almost emotionally detached from the children, there doesn't feel like there's any warmth between them. She has a challenging expression as if she is deliberatly looking for an adverse reaction rather than celebrating what she is doing. Just mho

[elmoandella]

i'm with you on this maid amess. earlier on in this thread i explained why i stopped and it's similar reason why i feel uncomfortable with this image.

not saying it's wrong. saying i'm uncomfortable with it.

[maidamess]

Yes VS I saw the link and read the first page. I agree with what some of them are saying, am chatting about it on another thread.

[MilaMae]

I thought it was perfectly acceptable. The 14 month old in question was on continuously,wasn't playing with toys as wanted to be carried around all day.

More importantly the lady in question was being paid to look after other people's children(she ran a busy daycare business from her house)and had 3 other children.

As she spent most of the day on the sofa bfeeding all hell let loose as she wasn't supervising properly-her own children and the day care kids. If I'd been one of those parents I'd have been furious as instead of playing with my kids as she was being paid to do she was bfeeding!!!!!!!

One of the reasons I gave up bfeeding was the fact I couldn't care for my 15month old twins properly,there were other reasons too. When bfeeding a baby you are still responsible to your other children and they need attention just as much as a baby does.

I'm sure there will be many replies saying " I breast fed quads whilst looking after my 6 other kids" well woopy do, she wasn't looking after the other kids properly and couldn't manage it. Jo Frost did exactly the right thing in my opinion.

I tried to continuously breast feed and look after 2 other kids but couldn't. My other children were being neglected,pure and simple. There is nothing that annoys me more as when concerning bfeeding midwives and others say" don't move from the sofa" errr life isn't always able to accomodate that. Children and circumstances are all different.

[fishie]

wrong thread hunker?

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[ilovemydog]

amazing - didn't know one could do breastfeeding and not look tired...

[VictorianSqualor]

maidamess have you read the thread on netmums?

[hunkermunker]

Shallow sorta place, NM, isn't it?

"I don't like it hun,it makes me feel a bit yicky, just my opinion though, nothing to do with anything else don't hold it againt me, OK, hun? Toodle-pip!"

It's not an opinion you can get your teeth into, is it?!

[VictorianSqualor]

this is the pic thread on MN
The other link is the thread on netmums.

[totalmisfit]

surely it's more hassle for the mother to bottle feed than breastfeed - all the preparation, sterilising etc.

If it's only for nap-time surely the mother's breasts will be feeling the strain by the time the next feed is due?

horrible engorged boobs are much more hassle than simply feeding the poor child when she wants to be fed.

[maidamess]

I don't think they are saying she 's not allowed to look hot. just that that shot maybe doesn't do extended breast feeding justice.

[HumphreyCushioni]

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[HumphreyCushioni]

Could you link please, VS.

[VictorianSqualor]

here

[VictorianSqualor]

netmums.
Tbh, it's pretty much what I expect from there, I know I shouldn't read it, it just makes me angry!

[hunkermunker]

Oh, fgs. What is the other site?

[VictorianSqualor]

*looks hot.

[VictorianSqualor]

Totally Hunker.
I've just posted a thread wth a picture (that I think is gorgeous) of a mother bfing her two youngest children which I found on another site.
On said site everyone s up arms because the mum look shot, which apparently isn't allowed if you're BFing, especially a child over a few months, because apparently it is then a sexual relationship

This 'get-your-tits-out-for-the-lads' culture has so much to answer for.

[hunkermunker]

I think often people are a bit discomfited by the mother-child relationship - it unnerves them.

Best to pull it apart, clearly, rather than find ways to support it. The latter might be too hard, after all.

Nowt super about this nanny, imo.

[Seona1973]

the mother did say she had been thinking of stopping for a few months so I dont think it was all Jo's idea. At the end the little girl drinks perfectly happily from an avent cup so she doesnt actually wean to a bottle. She also now sleeps in her own cot (in the parents room) and doesnt have to feed all night to be able to stay asleep. No-one in the house was getting much sleep at all so they must all feel a lot better.

[aurorec]

If the mother and child are both happy BFing, why force her to wean?
The child is obviously not ready, otherwise they would do it of their own accord.

Oh and ITA to whoever said what's the point of the bottle at that age? Might as well go straight to sippy cup. That's what I did with my daughter when she self-weaned at 14 months. She never took a bottle, I actually tried to give her one cos they were less messy than the cups, but she refused.

Disappointing.

[ilovemydog]

hate smug childless people generally.

[elmoandella]

no probs.

i do like jo frosts ways of dealing with unruly kids though. some, not all, of her techniques work great.