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Does this sound like normal toddler behaviour to you?

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petaluma · 17/08/2011 21:13

Ds has recently shown fixations on things, bordering on obsessive behaviour, and I am just wondering if this is normal for a 24 month old. He clearly understands a lot and is trying to communicate all the time but speech is slow (only a handful of recognisable words although he can put them into 3 word sentences)

Examples of his behaviour...

He watched a DVD of Peppa Pig for the first time last week and now wants to watch it all the time and gets very upset when even the ad breaks on Nick Jnr come on, and inconsolable when the programme finishes. He indicates he wants to watch it by 'oinking' (!). The crying (not really tantrum type, more just really unhappy) lasted about half an hour the first night and has diminished with a bit of distraction tonight.

He fixates on a phrase eg. "daddy go way" (when dh goes to work) and will continue saying it on and off throughout the say until dh gets home.

He is very particular about things like snacks - he will only 'accept' a snack if he is lifted up to the cupboard where we keep them, and can choose himself. He also has very definite ideas about what books he wants to be read in the evening and won't settle down to sleep without us finding the one he wants.

These are just a few examples, there are others which crop up on a more random basis.

On one hand, he is mostly a very sociable, smiley boy, but on the other, he can turn in matter of seconds into a very demanding, intractable little so and so.

I don't think his speech is out of the boundaries of normal, but I do suspect this is causing him quite a lot of frustration in how he controls his environment.

Anyone got any advice/experiences to share?

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petaluma · 17/08/2011 22:03

Me. Ds's birthday misses the next school year by less than a week. His cousin who is 11 months older than him will be in the same school year. I freaked out at the thought of this, particularly when I look back at photos of him as a newborn and her as a very grown up looking toddler, and then thinking I wasn't even pg with ds when she was born.

I didn't know any where did more than one point of entry. At least it's one year's less childcare we have to pay for!

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CoonRapids · 17/08/2011 22:23

Less childcare - that's true petaluma! Our DS must have similar Birthdays. Sorry to change the subject! I just can't reconcile the toddler behaviour of now with the idea of school in 24 months. Though I guess they will be twice their current age by then. I think we're the last area to go to one-point entry. Older DS is 7 now, also summer born and only had one term in reception.

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cottonreels · 17/08/2011 22:38

Another vote for normal here. My dd is 22 months, loves baby jake, has being saying a beautifully pronounced yes for ages but has now moved onto to a really aggressive NO.
I try to listen to her and aquiesce to demands that are important to her but less so for me. So today, she wanted to go on the baby swing. Then wanted to get off two minutes later, not even 2 minutes later wanted to get back on swing again. I indulged ( I was at the park for her pleasure after all), but my dad was there and commented that I am spoiling her. Hmmm.
I do wonder how to get the balance right. A little bit of control for them, when seen by others can just look like youre giving in all the time (Im not) but Im constantly worrying that I should get more strict. So hard though when she can only say 1 or 2 words at a time.
Do any of your nearly 2 year olds understand consequences - eg, if you throw that toy at your cousin, I will take that toy away?
At the moment its just "no throwing" 1st time and removal from the group second time with again "no throwing" I walk away, she follows after a moment, or has total head throwing melt down, which I ignore for only for a moment or two.
Sorry, didnt mean to highjack [embarrassed]

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SouthGoingZax · 17/08/2011 22:45

Yes. My 2 year olds understands consequences.
For e.g. He is into biting at the moment - he bets his twin brother. TOday he bit him and I put him in his highchair to calm the situation down and told him I had put him in there because he had bitten his brother and that we don't bite people. A few minutes later (I was cooking dinner) DH came in and said "What are you doing in here?" to DS. He said "I was naughty because I bit DT2". When his brother came in he said "Sorry DT2"

He definitely understands. I guess they 'get it' at different ages but I would say persist in the discipline. The meltdown doesn't mean she doesn't understand - she's frustrated but it sounds to me she's testing the boundaries. Keep being consistent.

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cottonreels · 17/08/2011 22:50

Thank you South. I cant imagine that level of speech yet, and wonder how much of a difference that makes. I wonder if speech and understanding are following the same line on the graph iyswim.
My dd is only saying the names of simple nouns. If I were to say "oh look were running out of breadsticks, shed say "yes" as if Id said "do you want a breadstick"
I hate wishing her babyhood away, but feel a bit like Im waiting on the speech so we can get going on the discipline. Am I just wimping out?

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SouthGoingZax · 17/08/2011 22:58

They were early talkers and late walkers.

If it's any consolation, they're still just as 'toddlery', just they can talk about it more!

And what you are doing for discipline sounds very similar to me. I was Grin yesterday because DT1 was sploshing his drink from his sippy cup on the car seat as we were driving along in the car and DT2 was yelling "FOr goodness sake! DOn't splash your drink! I will take it away!" I think they must hear it 20 times a day. And about 1/2 the time I do have to remove the offending item, but as much as I can, I pick my battles. Like you did at the playground. I think that is important too otherwise you are constantly saying no and that's no fun for either of you.

Something that is also working well at the moment is to count to three. If one of the boys is saying he wants to climb into his carseat of highchair, I'll say Ok, mummy will count to 3 and if you're not in I will help you in. 1.....2......3 and by 3, almost always they have done what I wanted, if not I do it for them.
Grin

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cottonreels · 17/08/2011 23:13

[laugh] If it's any consolation, they're still just as 'toddlery', just they can talk about it more! [laugh]
that is just the best sentence ever - really made me laugh. I truly hadnt thought of that. I think Ive been assuming a rise speech will equal a rise in common sense.
My dd said to her teddy yesterday (after deliberatly throwing her toy downstairs) mummy cross. Ahhh, its all cute too.

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SouthGoingZax · 17/08/2011 23:17
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tethersend · 17/08/2011 23:21

Really interesting article about schema here

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petaluma · 17/08/2011 23:49

Very interesting article, tethersend thanks.

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petaluma · 18/08/2011 00:02

cottonreels i often wonder if I'm being too soft sometimes. It's hard to work out when they transition from babies who 'need' to toddlers who 'want' and i worry that I worked it out a bit late and that some behaviour is ingrained. Eg. Ds always comes to me when he 's hungry, rarely dh, but this could be one of two things or a combination of both- I've been his primary carer so basic needs such as feeding has always been more down to me, or the fact that, if ds wants a bit of my drink or what I'm eating (in moderation), I let him have some.

I started doing this as i thought it was good for him to taste different things, and/or was getting into the habit of copying grown up behaviour. However, i now have to watch what i eat and drink as ds is always hawking me, even if i don't let him have any, and i don't want to set bad examples through him seeing me drinking, say, coke or eating a bag of crisps.

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cottonreels · 18/08/2011 07:33

Hi OP. Yes I too worry about recognising where babydom has ended.
With respect to hunger though, i think its probably a good thing to offer him some of your food on his own plate, but if its a snack you dont want him to eat, say "yes, you can have a snack", but then put a healty snack on his plate. If he notices/complains you say " mummys snack" pointing at yours. I know this because I too drink coke, but dd doesnt try to drink it simply because of the repetition of "mummys drink". My dd has a poor appetite so Ive recently stopped all snacks. One thing im noticing is that Ive stopped snacking too to avoid her seeing food when its not mealtime...its only a matter of time before I lose some weight (which is a good thing - being SAHMhas been bad for my waistline) Smile
I too wonder if Im too soft at times. I got tough on the sleeping issues at 9 months and it worked, Ive recently got tough on the no snacks, and that seems to be working too. Continuing the theme, getting tough on behaviour seems to be the strategy too. To be honest though I cant identify any behaviours that borther me unless its a normal toddler behaviour (wanting to watch another programme, go in the swing again, only wanting mummy to push the swing, finding sharing her toys difficult)

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