My feed
Premium

Please
or
to access all these features

Find baby name inspiration and advice on the Mumsnet Baby Names forum.

Baby names

Baby girl name crisis - 6 months too late to change?

277 replies

Newmamma10 · 17/04/2024 11:40

This is going to be a looong post. My DD just turned 6 months and I have had anxieties about naming her since she was born in October. My partner and I live in Scotland but I am a Swedish-speaking Finn and my husband in Dutch. It's been important to us that the name could work here as well as in our home countries. During pregnancy we had been referring to the bump as "Ebba". We ruled out actually naming her Ebba for several reasons: the name is popular in Sweden but we live in Scotland where the name is almost unheard of, we were worried it sounds cute on a girl but not mature enough on an adult, and lastly it rhymes a bit with "he bah" in Dutch which means gross. So we had a shortlist of 3 names picked out instead - Ava, Lena and Elin. Before she was born we agreed to Lena (pronounced Leh-na), my DHs pick. However, the first time someone read the name out in hospital they pronounced it "Lina". We were both put off by this and my DH had some negative associations with "Lina" he couldn't get past. Looking back at our shortlist he decided he no longer liked "Ava" because it sounded too religious, and "Elin" (my favourite) I thought would also be too difficult to pronounce in Scotland - our preferred pronunciation is Eh-lin not Ellen (it is also a euphemism for penis in Finnish and I thought sometimes it sounded like alien). We then went back to the drawing board.

As we had 14 days to register her, we were starting to get a bit stressed. Not to mention I had quite a difficult time in hospital the first week which made it very difficult to think clearly. We started using the name Liv (a name meaning life) and DH previously didn't like the name but had warmed to it. I thought we finally had a name we both agreed on. Then with only four days left until our registration, my DH wanted to try all the other previous names we discussed just to "be sure". This got me very confused. The names we also tested were Evelyn and Alma. I have loved the name Evelyn for ages but worried it wasn't Scandinavian enough to pair with my surname. We both liked Alma because of it's simplicity and meaning. It's become very popular in Sweden, Denmark and France.

I made a previous post on Mumsnet and both Alma and Liv got slated which sent me on a tailspin. I became worried that Liv would be confused for a nickname for Olivia and Alma doesn't work in the UK because of negative connotations here with Coronation street and pubs, plus Sister Act. With literally 8 minutes left before the registration appointment I still couldn't decide. My DH was pushing to make the decision rather than delay and that his preference was Alma but told me I should go for Liv because it was a name I liked and he didn't want me to regret our daughter's name. We registered her as Liv Tove (Tove being a family name). Immediately after registration my DH went off the name because of the Swedish pronunciation "Leev" but would still be okay to call her Liv. I was feeling immensely anxious at this time and worried we had made a mistake. I didn't want our DD to have a name my DH wasn't keen on and I also didn't like switching pronunciation between languages.

It turned out we could easily have delayed registration for a week. I was angry with DH for pressuring me during such a difficult time. We hardly called her Liv after the registration. I poured myself into weighing out the pros and cons of all names. The names I liked were Matilda, Agnes and Beatrice but they were ruled out by DH. We just couldn't find a name we both agreed on. We started to wonder if we could actually just call her Ebba as that was a name we had gotten so fond of having used it during pregnancy. My Dutch in-laws said that it doesn't sound too much like he-bah (gross). I was still worried it was too rare and could be mistaken for Abba. My dad who is also a Swedish-speaking Finn had never even heard of the name before which was surprising!

We decided to try the name Ebba Elin for 2 months and if there were no issues that came up then we would officially change her name. (We chose Elin because it works in the Netherlands too as a back up and is also a family name). 2 months came and went and while we were using the name I still wasn't sure about it. I sometimes felt embarrassed and worried about people's reactions. It hasn't been too problematic, we only got Abba once and Emma a few times, but certainly some faces have been pulled. Mostly it's been accepted but my anxieties haven't subsided. I told DH when she was 4 months that I think my actual preference is Alma and if I had been sure about Ebba then we would have changed it already. You can only change the name once and I want to make sure it's right. Things are difficult in my marriage and I think if we weren't together her name wouldn't be Ebba. I just want my DD to have a name I really love and can stand proudly by.

I have been putting off doing anything because of my post partum depression, this was not a decision I wanted to make when I wasn't feeling well but I'm worried it's getting too late now. She is 6 months and will be able to recognise her name as Ebba soon, I have to do something. Either decide to keep it as Ebba or change to something else. DH loves the name Ebba but would change it to her middle name if we could find a first name we agree on.

The two names we have found now are Vivian and Elise. Vivian is lovely because it means lively. Cons are my surname starts with a D so her initials would be VD, and not sure how Vivian Ebba sounds? At the moment Elise is my favourite the only downside is that it means God's promise but we both think it sounds beautiful. I was initially worried it sounded too French and it may get confused with Elsie. Alma is also still in the mix but may actually be too popular abroad. I realise there is no perfect name but I think I like those names better than Ebba. I worry however about announcing a name change to friends and family. It's already so messy and complicated. That means the options are: Vivian Ebba D, Elise Ebba D, Alma Ebba D (then she'd have the same initials as me AED) OR keep the name Ebba with Ebba Elise D or original Ebba Elin D?

I have tried to seek help for this as I realise my anxieties are also because of perinatal depression. I've spoken to a therapist but haven't gotten much out of it. I have now made an appointment with a hypnotherapist to see if that will be of any help.

What should I do? Well done for reading this far.

Please be kind!

OP posts:
Report
Scottishgirl85 · 17/04/2024 11:51

Oh OP what a muddle you've got yourself in 💐
I don't think it's helpful to ask opinions. Names are very personal and we don't all like the same ones otherwise we'd all be called the same :-)
Look at your lovely baby, say all the names out loud and see which one makes you smile the most. Which one really fits.
Don't obsess about middle names or initials, they really don't matter. I think a middle name should have family or personal significance.
Good luck x

Report
nfkl · 17/04/2024 11:54

OP, can you let go of one criteria?
From what I read, so far (random order)

it needs to work in English/Finnish/Dutch for spelling and pronunciation
it needs to work with the family name
it needs to be meaningful
you both need to like/agree on it

It s a lot , maybe try to prioritise what is the most important, and work back from there?
All the names you have given sound lovely btw, your child will have a beautiful name whichever you choose :)

Report
Notreat · 17/04/2024 12:09

I'm sorry you are in this situation.
I'm not going to comment on the names other than to say all the names you suggest are perfectly acceptable and nice because as you have acknowledged you know that your issues are not really about your child's name they are about your anxiety.
No name is perfect. If you look for it you will find something wrong with every single name.
There are so many diverse names now from many different cultures so normally no one bats an eyelid at an unusual name.
Stop listening to other people's opinions, go with what feels right and stay with the name you choose.

Report
oldnorsesaga · 17/04/2024 12:22

All names are wonderful.
Do you see your doctor about post partum depression regularly? Do you take any meds? I would say your depression is making things difficult for you, but don't blame yourself.

Report
Moreteaandchocolate · 17/04/2024 12:24

It’s fine to change her name at 6 months! I love -

Vivian Ebba D
Elise Ebba D
Alma Ebba D

All beautiful names! :)

Report
MerryChristmasToYou · 17/04/2024 12:37

Hi OP, it's not about the name is it, it's about you being pressed into making a decision you weren't ready to make.

Are you getting medical help for the PPD?

You can change the name up to the age of 12 months. Recording Changes of Forename(s) and Surname(s) in Scotland | National Records of Scotland (nrscotland.gov.uk)

Here's my opinion on the names.
Vivian - it's a boy's name. Spell it Vivien or Vivienne.
Elise - will get mixed up with Elsie a lot. Will probably get called Ellie.
Ava, Evelyn - overused and similar to Eva, Evie and Ivy
Lena - likely to get Lee-na a lot in Scotland
Elin - nice but Ellie and Ella very popular
Ebba - nice, a bit different but in a good way
Alma - Sedgewick, but the association won't be relevant to today's children
Liv - would think it is probably short for Olivia or Livia. Will get said as Liv not Leev

Things are difficult in my marriage
How bad are things in the marriage? Has it irretrievably broken down, or are things likely to get better?

I think if we weren't together her name wouldn't be Ebba.
What would her name be?

Report
FlyingPizzaMonkey · 17/04/2024 12:37

I love the name Elise. Personally not keen on Vivian at all. The Elise I know doesn’t get called Elsie by mistake.

Ava and Evelyn have been done to death. They’re everywhere.

Which name feels right when you say it out loud?

Report
Mercurial123 · 17/04/2024 12:45

My Scottish granny was called Alma it's a beautiful name. Naming your child really shouldn't be this stressful.

Report
Boxerdor · 17/04/2024 12:46

I love Elin, it’s quite popular where I am in wales and is a beautiful name. I also love Alma despite coronation street. It’s quite unusual but easy to pronounce. Ebba I’ve not heard of but I think is really nice too

Report
hoonicorn · 17/04/2024 12:47

Vivian will be shortened to Viv.

Elise is common enough here in Scotland not to be mixed up with other names like Elsie/ella etc. there are two Elise's on my street.

Not keen on Ebba or Alma.

Kids can be cruel. Is she going to grow up in Scotland? Give her a name that suits and fits in where she will grow up as well as meeting your other criteria ie Elise. Give the middle name as a family name or cultural name.

I hope you find a name you are happy with and ease your mind. X

Report
ClaudiaWinklepanda · 17/04/2024 12:49

Oh @Newmamma10 , I feel for you, I had terrible anxiety over DD's name.

The criteria I would absolutely drop is 'meaning', unless it means something rude in another language. Honestly, nobody cares. It's cute when they're small to be able to say, "your name means (for example) rainbow" and buy them lots of rainbow stuff, but otherwise it's irrelevent, so many names have really pedestrian origins.

I love Elin, Ebba and Liv. All lovely to say, and they conjure up images to me of a girl out in nature.

You don't have to have a middle name.

Does any name 'speak' to you?

Report
WeightoftheWorld · 17/04/2024 12:52

Honestly, I think Liv is a perfectly fine name. Yes, people will sometimes assume it's short for Olivia, and so what?

I mean, it's up to you, but as everyone has said, this is clearly more about your mental health than a name. At this point it's obvious that you will worry and stress about any name, you've demonstrated that here. You and DH settled on Liv for good reasons, can you not make peace with that and draw a line under all of this now? I think you'd both feel much better that way.

Report
BreadAhoy · 17/04/2024 12:55

Ebba Elin is lovely! If she feels Ebba isn’t right for her when she is a grown up, then she can use Elin which is a fantastic elegant name; she will easily be able to correct any mispronunciation (Ellen over Eh-lin) but in the meantime she can enjoy being called Ebba which is a sweet and unusual name, easily pronounced and spelled. You mentioned that you haven’t had any bad reactions to the name or misunderstanding in the past two months so that is good news! It is also nice because it is the name you used before she was born.

I think it may also help you to just stick with this name and manage your anxieties, rather than hoping that once you find the “right” name, your anxieties will go away. Best wishes.

Report
gm2023 · 17/04/2024 12:55

Honestly? These names are all fine. I’d just go with Liv, as it’s the one you’ve registered, and move on with your life. If that doesn’t feel right then pick one of the others and move forwards. You need some certainty and closure, and I want to tell you all of these names are good enough!

Report
Strictlymad · 17/04/2024 13:03

oh hun you really have got yourself in a tiz. Try to take a step back and take a breather, as others have said drop the criteria you are trying to fit, the might get muddled with etc. I hardly know anyone who hasn’t had a mistake made with their name at some point, you correct them and on you go. Pick the name you love the most and go from there

Report
Axx · 17/04/2024 13:04

I love Liv, it's a great name.

If you do want to change it, what about Alba? It's a mix of Alma and Ebba and might suit her.

I hope you're getting help with your PND, name regret can be a huge focus point with this Flowers

Report
ClaudiaWinklepanda · 17/04/2024 13:06

Axx · 17/04/2024 13:04

I love Liv, it's a great name.

If you do want to change it, what about Alba? It's a mix of Alma and Ebba and might suit her.

I hope you're getting help with your PND, name regret can be a huge focus point with this Flowers

Doesn't Alba mean Scotland though?

Report
Runnerduck34 · 17/04/2024 13:09

OP I'm so sorry you are feeling this way.
I hope you are getting support for your anxiety.
And perhaps relationship counselling.
Do you have support IRL?
It's fine to change your daughters name.
All the names you've mentioned are lovely- of course people will have their own favourites but that doesn't deflect from your choices.
People your DD is close too and sees regularly will learn to pronounce it correctly- just will be odd occasion at GPs, dentist etc where unfamiliar people may get pronunciation wrong
Go with your heart but try not to overthink.
The only line I would draw is a name that is close to a rude word in country you have close associations too.
I would also look at initials as kids use initials a lot in school.
I have 4 DCs - each time I had a child we had a different shortlist!
But I like all their names, I think make a final decision and stick with it it will suit your DD and soon be normal.
Good luck

Report
Axx · 17/04/2024 13:28

@ClaudiaWinklepanda I thought it meant Dawn

Report
Suchardchoccy · 17/04/2024 13:29

BreadAhoy · 17/04/2024 12:55

Ebba Elin is lovely! If she feels Ebba isn’t right for her when she is a grown up, then she can use Elin which is a fantastic elegant name; she will easily be able to correct any mispronunciation (Ellen over Eh-lin) but in the meantime she can enjoy being called Ebba which is a sweet and unusual name, easily pronounced and spelled. You mentioned that you haven’t had any bad reactions to the name or misunderstanding in the past two months so that is good news! It is also nice because it is the name you used before she was born.

I think it may also help you to just stick with this name and manage your anxieties, rather than hoping that once you find the “right” name, your anxieties will go away. Best wishes.

I agree with this. Ebba Elin is lovely. It's been there since the start. I would keep it as that. I don't think you're going to find the perfect name, and if you change it now to say Alma, you might regret that decision too. Maybe give yourself a couple more months. Good luck with the PPD.

Report
ClaudiaWinklepanda · 17/04/2024 13:44

Axx · 17/04/2024 13:28

@ClaudiaWinklepanda I thought it meant Dawn

Ah, it's both!

Report
Rorelius · 17/04/2024 13:45

Ebba is lovely and not confusing at all to pronounce

Report

Don’t want to miss threads like this?

Weekly

Sign up to our weekly round up and get all the best threads sent straight to your inbox!

Log in to update your newsletter preferences.

You've subscribed!

AbbeFausseMaigre · 17/04/2024 13:56

Elise is beautiful. Also really like Elin.

Report
Alloveragain3 · 17/04/2024 14:11

Oh bless you. With kindness, I think the name itself perhaps isn't the issue here and you're attaching a much greater weight to it than it should hold.

It's a name, and while it seems like a huge deal, ultimately it is just a name.

Whatever name you choose, there could be obstacles e.g. a new celebrity becoming famous with the name who you don't like, a new slang term emerging e.g. 'Karen', your daughter disliking it when older etc.

You're not going to find a perfect name that pleases everyone.

Pick one that you and DH like. Ignore other people's feelings; she's not their child!

Every single one of the names you've listed is lovely, so whatever you choose, she's got a beautiful name.

You could end up becoming obsessed and never feeling happy with the name if you don't move on at this point.

Ultimately, you know the name that sits best with you, so just go with this and try not to think about it too much.

Report
Alloveragain3 · 17/04/2024 14:14

Oh and with regards people getting the name wrong, this happens with every name.

My son is Leo (super easy, you would think!) but he has gotten Theo and Leon before. Not a big deal. The people who know him, know his name!

Report
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.