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does this nick name work?

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BeautifulStars93 · 27/05/2015 20:12

Lottie for Violet?
The accent where im from pronounces it more like vio-lot rather than vio-let.
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reuset · 27/05/2015 23:01

Harsh Rhonda!

Though I have an example I know of where I think it was pretentious (I've altered it very slightly to avoid it being searched). A Hannah whose day-to-day name has always been Foggy. I was guessing frantically initially trying to work out the real name.

They've done it with all the children, nick names have no connection, punning, dims or otherwise, and are decided before children born.

I don't think OP is the same though

LoveVintage · 27/05/2015 23:05

You are really talking about what the name can he shortened to, in that you said 'Lottie for short" But it's not for short, it takes the same time to say as Violet.

I know a few Lotties - all Charlotte. You can of course use Lottie but it is not a natural leap from Violet and may well cause confusion.I wouldn't use it.

reuset · 27/05/2015 23:13

Lovevintage - depends on how you pronounce Violet as to whether it's shorter. I'd say it with three syllables.

Some people, not saying is the case here, confuse or interchange 'for short' with nick name or diminutive, both of which, even the latter, can be longer than the actual name.

Whiteshirt · 27/05/2015 23:21

I wouldn't base a name for daily use/short form on an unusual regional mispronunciation of a given name.

Also now intrigued as to where Violet gets pronounced Violot. The only variations I've come across are, as a pp said, whether it's given two syllables or three.

Costacoffeeplease · 27/05/2015 23:26

I have never understood this mumsnet obsession with nicknames - as pp have said, they evolve naturally, they're not decided before the child is even born! Name him/her what you want, but to try to force a clumsy 'shortening' is just ridiculous

PandaNot · 27/05/2015 23:28

I have a 'John, known as Jack' and it was always planned that way because of both his grandfathers being called John. It's never been a problem. If you want a planned nickname go for it.

MerryMarigold · 28/05/2015 06:59

I knew a Miriam who was Miri for shor. I loved it and it was a factor in deciding dd's full name. Sadly, we got her home and ds1 couldn't say her name properly which then led to a nn completely unrelated to her name. On the other hand, I choose ds1's name need on the v obvious nn as Dh and I could not agree any name except I liked the established nn and Dh liked the full name.

BreeVDKamp · 28/05/2015 07:44

Aw poor OP! I've just named my newborn son Jos, but he'll be Joseph on the birth certificate. Isn't that just the same as having a Benjamin but thinking he'll be a Ben, or a Steven and thinking he'll be a Ste not a Steve? I know two Stes.

I think it's just fine! :) and it may have developed naturally anyway so I don't get that argument. And I always thought nicknames were different to/sillier than preferred shortenings :-s

BreeVDKamp · 28/05/2015 07:49

I mean saying 'I have a Bean' is different - that's a nickname, Lottie is a shortening. Although I do know a Bean but her name is Sabina.

AwfulBeryl · 28/05/2015 07:50

How to you pronounce that Bree? My lovely nephew is Joseph, but he is a Joebot.

hoarseoldfrog · 28/05/2015 08:00

It's totally fine. Do what you want.
This was a really important factor for my husband when choosing a name too 'it must be able to be shortened to something cool' so much so that he started suggesting really gross names which had one cool syllable.
The baby has a name I love, we call him a short form. Our families have totally ignored us because they prefer the longer version (which is only 2 syllables anyway!) But it meant finally getting a name we both loved for 5 day old baby!
Just be prepared for everyone to ignore you a d call her violet!

SoozeyHoozey · 28/05/2015 09:08

why not just call her violet? It's a lovely name and not very loop.

BeautifulStars93 · 28/05/2015 10:08

She would be Violet but Lottie for short.
VIOLET being 3 syllables LOTTIE being 2.

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ThroughThickAndThin01 · 28/05/2015 10:15

Do you say Vi-oh-let? I say Vi-let.

I think it works better cor Charlotte. Would prefer Lettie as previous posters suggested for Violet.

Thurlow · 28/05/2015 10:29

How on earth some people seem to exist in a world where they don't know anyone called Ben, Kate, Joe, Becky, Suzie is quite baffling.

It's a confusion over the word nickname - but why get your knickers in a twist over what an OP clearly means is a diminutive.

Perfectly normal for people to decide they'd like a Tilly, Ben, Joey, Lottie etc but then put a fuller name on a birth certificate. Might not be something everyone agrees with, but it's still perfectly normal.

reuset · 28/05/2015 10:33

I know some people pronounce with the two syllables, but it does have three in written form. I also suspect three syllables is most 'correct', as Viola (violet comes from Latin Viola) is certainly three syll pronunciation. If you care about such things

Although how are people pronouncing the 'let' part. I don't ever hear it pronounced and emphasized strongly as 'e' in egg and get, but as a slight uh sound. So Violette or Violetta works better for Lettie I think.

Waffle over

reuset · 28/05/2015 10:36

Yep, and despite the first glance meaning of the word, diminutives can be, and often are, longer than the actual name.

ScrambledEggAndToast · 28/05/2015 10:37

To me, Violet with Lottie for short, is the same as Violet with Becky/Emma/insert random name, for short.

Lottie just doesn't go with Violet. If you like it then just choose it as her first name. You can't determine what people will call her anyway.

WorldsBiggestGrotbag · 28/05/2015 10:39

Thurlow I know babies/children with nicknames, of course I do. I just don't know anyone who named their child one thing but decided on a nickname before birth, and the baby was announced as it's name plus nickname!

reuset · 28/05/2015 10:44

To me, Violet with Lottie for short, is the same as Violet with Becky/Emma/insert random name, for short.

Not when you think about how you get Peggy from Margaret or Polly or Molly from Mary. Lottie from Violet evolve in similar fashion

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 28/05/2015 11:00

World we did with all our children. Announced the full name and middle name along with the name we intended to use.

Thurlow · 28/05/2015 11:05

We did. In a perfectly normal example like I gave above - chose Katherine (example) but knew she would mostly be Kate.

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DramaAlpaca · 28/05/2015 11:13

OP, if you like Violet with Lottie as a diminutive, then go with it. It's fine.

BreeVDKamp · 28/05/2015 11:27

Beryl it rhymes with 'boss' a la Jos Buttler the cricketer and Joss Wheedon the screenwriter. No-one has had any issue with how to pronounce it from seeing it written down yet to my knowledge!

I fully expect his nicknames be to plentiful and along the lines of Joebot haha :)

WorldsBiggestGrotbag · 28/05/2015 11:43

I'm not denying it happens, I've just never known anyone who has done it.

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