AIBU to want all of you who are freaking out about the FB and Twitter links

[Tee2072]

should post in one thread so the rest of us sane, reasonable people who understand how the internet works can just hide one damn thread and move on with our lives?

I mean, really people. Maybe you should learn how the 'net actually works before being allowed to post on it.

No one is tracking you via your FB or Twitter.

MN has not violated your privacy any more than they have in the past when they themselves have posted links to those two places.

Go ahead and flame me.

But really, learn something. Bitch with knowledge. Not out of fear.

Thank you.

[runnybottom]

People's disquiet about Facebook is simply that it facilitates more traffic to the site bringing with it the worry (for some) an increased risk of being "recognised" and therefore exposed. Can't you grasp that? Why not?"

[Tee2072]

Yes they do Runnybottom. That's exactly what they think.

[Kaloki]

There are so many ways to hide your identity on here, name change, don't mention personal details, don't upload pictures, fill in your profile, or de-register.. being able to post things to facebook won't change anything. No one is any more or less identifiable than they were before.

[Dizzeee]

I think it's a valid point, however, shrieking 'get a fucking life and some education' doesn't generally win hearts and minds.

The fact that you use the internet with no expectation of any privacy, (although that argument might carry a little more weight were you to post under your actual name) does not mean that others, who use it in a different way, are wrong.

And yes, the linking has been going on for time, and yes MN own our words. I'm pretty sure nobody who posts here thinks that this is a private space.

[scoutliam]

Jw, I'm gutted, absolutely gutted.
I thought we were so close.

You know I can see you now, I mean right now, don't you?

[Tee2072]

Dizzee, my real name is Robyn Fraser. My blog is Tee's Blog

I have a son named Adam. He's nearly 11 months old.

and Tee2072 is my user name all over the 'net.

And if people don't think this is a private space, then why are they being so paranoid about two little buttons that really do very little?

[scoutliam]

Oh Lord sorry JW, that wasn't to me was it!
Sorry again.

[Dizzeee]

I think it's the ease with which links can be made now tbh (if you are actually interested) - that the links might make people think of doing it, when they might not have done previously - that it encourages linking. Also, on MN there is quite a lot of forum etiquette policed by users - such as a general frowning on threads about threads, and bringing grievances up on threads. With twitter and fb, that obv goes out of the window, which i think some are uncomfortable with.

My point that you use a user name stands - it's not wrong that you choose to be so very public - but why still use a user name rather than RobynFraser?

[Dizzeee]

i meant that grievances should be brought up on the relevant thread rather than elsewhere...

[PrivetDancer]

Op yanbu, I have just been reading another thread about it from the middle of the night with utter disbelief.

It's hilarious the uproar any change to the site brings about. I've never known another site to have a revamp bit have to give users the option of still being able to see it in the original style.

[Kaloki]

Dizzeee I get what you are saying, and I know you have directed your post at Tee, but from what Tee has said we are coming from the same direction.

I am also very easy to find out about online. My name is Kat O'Brien soon to be Kathryn Mallow. The reason for a username isn't to disguise, it's like clothes, I don't wear them to hide me but to emphasise something about me. (Plus, Kat OBrien is almost never free as a username)

I also don't think the outcry has, for the most part at least, been about it encouraging linking. Most people who are upset by it believe that it is somehow sharing private information, or that it is giving away their identity to strangers. Both of which have no basis in logic, and show no understanding of how the internet actually works.

Which I have sympathy for, except when they are doing the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting "LALALA". Which some have done.

[Joolyjoolyjoo]

OK, I am one of the people who was a bit uncomfortable about it all. I don't really like FB at all- I tend to stay away from it. I do appreciate the explanation, although actually I am not thick, or uneducated, just so you know, just not particularly well-versed in the ins and outs of social networking and IT, as these really are not my areas of expertise. Do I really need to "learn how the net really works before being allowed to post on it"? Do you have intricate knowledge of everything you use as a tool? I think your OP was a bit sneery and dismissive of those of us who are a bit anxious about the posts we make being broadcast to an ever-widening audience. But I do appreciate the knowledge that, as long as I am not a MN FB group member then my MN and my FB should be able to be kept seperate (unless any of my other friends are unwittingly FB friends with other MN FB group members)

While I understand that this site is not private, I don't imagine that any of my friends who are not members of MN are randomly combing through threads to see what I am saying. However, if a thread that I am on is linked to the FB of someone who might be a communal friend, suddenly they don't need to trawl through MN to see what I am posting- it is right there in front of them. Yes, you have always been able to google and come up with a thread- so what? That is only going to be done by people who have an interest in the thread subject matter. This way it seems MN threads will be seen by people who previously wouldn't have bothered to search, that's what I find a bit uncomfortable (note: uncomfortable, I'm NOT flapping around like a headless chicken, or getting hysterical.)

Ultimately, this WILL affect the nature of the things I want to post on this site, knowing that the audience may be far far larger than I previously considered. I think some people will self-censor a lot more, and that will take away the spontaneity of the site- it's a bit like a comedian being able to be less repressed in front of a small audience, rather than if the show is being recorded for general broadcast on the BBC.

If this makes me an imbecile in your eyes, so be it

[johnworf]

Hear, hear Kaloki.

[Monty100]

Tee I think you need to go and get educated in some manners actually.

Very rude person. Who the hell do you think you are??

[bicuit]

[Monty100]

[Tee2072]

Jooly I am not saying anyone is an imbecile. I am saying they are running around panicing rather than learning. Ignorant is not the same as stupid.

And yes, if I am going to use a tool, I try to learn as much about it as possible.

And I am Tee on the internet and not RobynFraser because Tee is actually a real honest to god thing I am called in real life by my family and some of my friends. When my niece, who is now 10, was learning to talk, she called me Tee. We assume as short for Aunty, but who knows? And now quite a lot of my family and several of my RL friends call me Tee.

So Tee is my real name as much as Robyn Fraser is. And, as I said, I am Tee2072 everywhere. Here. Delphiforums. Every where except LiveJournal (because I've had my LJ longer than I've had my niece!) which is still in my maiden name (Robyn Leyser, BTW) and Facebook because I use my real, current name on FB.

I understand people wanting to protect themselves. What I don't understand is that they think they are, just by having a fake name on MN. They aren't. Its as false a sense of security as going through airport security is. But that's a whole 'nother thread.

[Tee2072]

Er Panicking. Sorry, forgot to preview!

[EricNorthmansmistress]

joolyjoolyjoo

this makes no difference to you. You don't use FB, so you are not likely to link a MN page to your FB profile, since you don't have one.

Even if you did have one, you simply choose not to post links and nobody in your RL knows that you use MN.

Nobody in RL knows I use MN as much as I do, nobody knows my username since I changed it from a more recognisable one. I have no profile. I don't link MN threads to FB. This button makes absolutely zero difference to how anonymous I am on here. Nor will it make any difference to you.

If you are browsing the internet and someone posts click on www.facebook.com and you click on it, it will take you to the FB site. If you are a member of FB and have passwords stored on your PC it will take you to your FB page. The F button > there does exactly and only that.

[Jamieandhismagictorch]

Feel like vomiting because of it? Get a fucking life and some education.

Vitriol and swearing.