To change my dd religion

[mummytopebs]

My dd has just got in an absolutly excellent catholic primary school - have absolutly no idea how so i am over the moon. She is not catholic but apparently they have to take 3 per cent non catholics. I am now considering changing her from c of e to catholic as i myself went to a catholic school and was c of e and was left out of stuff like communion etc, i do not want her to be segregated from the group, so may change her religion. If i decide to do this, how do i do it?

[Thunderduck]

No.I do have to do a lot of studying though, learn some Hebrew, live according to the 613 commandments! and appear before a Bet Din, a religious court which will decide if I'm committed enough to convert.

There are some things I know I'll really struggle with so it will take a long time.

[MillyR]

Sorry, i have looked it up and it was limbo.

[MillyR]

Why are you converting (sorry if that is too personal a question)?

[IorekByrnison]

I think that was limbo, Milly.

I've been in a lot of high church Anglican and Catholic masses lately, and I truly haven't seen any difference in the liturgy or the sermons. The demographic of the congregation is rather different but that's another matter.

I'd make an appointment to talk to the priest, mummytpebs, and see how you get on from there.

[IorekByrnison]

sorry x posts

[Desiderata]

It all sounds a bit unsavoury to me.

[IorekByrnison]

Why?

[Thunderduck]

Not too personal at all. I've called myself a confused agnostic for years, but have always had a strong interest in Judaism.

I've realised that I do believe in a higher being and that Christianity in any form, doesn't really align with my beliefs, or perhaps I should say vice versa.

Judaism just feels right to me, for me. It's what I've been looking for, for years now. It's beliefs are my beliefs and finding it has been like finding the last jigsaw puzzle piece.

I'm not explaining myself very well I know.

[solidgoldshaggingbunnies]

Do bear in mind that your DD is entitled to her own opinions on the matter and may not be wild about the idea of being taught a lot of old homophobic woman-hating bollocks anyway. Particularly if it means extra homework. And if there is sectarian bullying at the school, the school needs to sort the issue out, not hide behind superstitious privilege.

[MillyR]

I think that was actually a very clear explanation; it sounds like what a lot of people go through but don't always resolve, and it is wonderful for you that you have.

[TheFallenMadonna]

As someone who is contemplating the opposite move, the continuity of liturgy and basic message is actually something of a comfort. But there are differences, and they are significant. Hence my dark night of the soul.

[Desiderata]

Why?

Because organized religion of any persuasion is a load of misguided pants.

Mankind has an uncanny ability to take every single, important esoteric meaning from all the available texts, and twist it to its own, personal ends.

Whilst I am more than happy for my child to learn about religion, the context is in the history rather than the actuality.

[MillyR]

FM

Now I also want to ask why are you converting?

[mrsboogie]

Desiderata and SGSB are spot on -
plus if the child were to stick to the religion she could grow up thinking she will burn in Hell for various things such as being Gay, using contraception, having an abortion etc.

And there are some very fundamental differences between RC and C of E.

[TheFallenMadonna]

But Desi, this is someone with a christian faith already. So I'm guessing the 'misguided pants' thing isn't figuring in her decision.

As for me, what SGB said. No, not really

Hard to explain. Am still going through the process. Some of what SGB said actually. I think it might have been brewing since the RC church admitted married anglicans to the priesthood, while celibacy remained for all others. And women being ordained as anglican priests. And authority. And the reality of being a catholic in Britain today compared with RC teaching. The teaching of my own priest compared with that of the vatican. So many things. So hard to present a coherent argument at the moment.

[Desiderata]

Yes, because let's not forget that the current Pope is a twat.

[onagar]

Presumably the kids picked that up from their catholic parents. That would be a reason not to join them I would have thought, but then I'm an atheist so am actually relieved that religion IS now on a par with cereal

[MaryBS]

TheFallenMadonna, I went from RC to Anglican, after much soul searching. Although I have the occasional regret, it was definitely the best move for me. I was received into the Anglican church formally, just over 3 years ago. It gave me closure having a formal ceremony.

As for differences. There is very little difference between what my vicar believes and what the average RC priest believes on most things. He believes in Transubstantiation, which is the case amongst AngloCatholics in the CofE. He doesn't have a problem with women priests, so I guess that's one difference.

As for mummytopebs' dilemma. Would you be prepared to take her to Mass on a Sunday? You might want to talk to the priest, see what he says. Also talk to the school.

[MaryBS]

Oh and my sister now calls me a dirty prod. I just call her arsey (RC) though!

[Habbibu]

Catechism lessons?!! They'd stopped those at my convent and Christian Brothers' schools 25 years ago...

[Onestonetogo]

Message withdrawn

[cory]

would agree with onestone except that to my mind making a deliberate effort to keep the supernatural out of her mind would also amount to brainwashing

anyway, you have to be aware that your dd is very soon going to be of an age where she will want to make her own mind up, regardless of what you think is the more sociably desirable

I was about 7 when I dedided I was a Christian- despite being brought up in an atheist/agnostic family and attending an ordinary secular school

my dd was probably younger than that when she decided she was not going to share my faith

[pranma]

You could have her baptised as RC and make sure she has RC godparents.I think you should also talk to your parish priest about what is involved.

[lalalonglegs]

I think it depends on the parish priest - in our parish, it definitely wouldn't mean just having a prayer read but would be a huge undertaking. You would have months of religious instruction and would need to show a real commitment to Catholicism.

I think you have to understand that quite a lot of Catholic priests (and I speak from experience) are pretty hardcore traditional and, as a convert, you will be expected to embrace that traditional thinking. (I agree with whoever said that you will be expected to convert as well if you wish your daughter to join the Catholic church.) So you would have to display a tolerance for things that many Catholics who were born into it, just sort of ignore: anti-abortion stance, anti-female priests, some extremely odd thinking on homosexuality. The CofE has moved with the times in many areas, the Catholic church has not and, if you sign up, it is implied that that, ahem, lack of wishy-washiness is part of the attraction. If it isn't, you may want to reconsider.

[QSthevampireslayer]

She wont be on the outside, I am sure.

You really have to work out whether you buy into the Catholic Doctrine. Remember it has changed a lot with the new pope, I know lots of people who turn their backs on the Catholic Church at the moment, due to it being even more orthodox now than 10 years ago.