Advice

[Cookiesandscones]

I wasn't really sure where to put this thread

I just need a bit of advice really

I live in a private rented property the kitchen was all fitted cooker, washer, dishwasher when we moved in, anyway the element on the oven stopped working the other day, I informed the landlord he came back to me said the oven was out of warranty and how much it was going to cost me to get a new element was £30 for the element or £130 for it to be fitted, I didn't question it and paid for a new element to be sent out, one of my family members is an electrician and has been for 40 years so he said he would fit it for me because it was such a simple job. It was fitted yesterday and oven turned on and the element sparked and blew all the electrics to the oven, my family member questioned the element from the start and said he didn't think it was the right one but considering the company who made the oven sent it out he fitted it. He has said the likely hood is the cooker now needs replacing.

Would I be within my rights to tell the landlord I am not replacing the oven with the exact same one because I am paying for it and as the one thats in they don't make anymore and the next one up is more than I can afford at the moment??

If there is a better place I can out this thread I will move it to there if anyone can direct me

Thank you for reading

[lanthanum]

well I did think this but he said had the kitchen not have been fitted I would of had to bring my own oven and if that had of broke I would have had to fix/replace that at my cost anyway

If that's his grounds for saying he didn't have to sort the repair, then I think it's also grounds for you choosing what to replace it with. (He was wrong, but I don't think he can pick and choose that it wasn't his oven when it needed repair but it is his oven when you're replacing it.)

[Cookiesandscones]

@jorisbonson not we chose to do the work ourselves and not pay the deposit, we had the option to pay the deposit and we could have done but we decided to take the option of not paying the deposit and decorating the place ourselves and flooring the whole place so we could get in before the winter months

[BestestBrownies]

It’s arseholes like this that give all landlords a bad name. The audacity of the bastard! He saw you coming, didn’t he?

You have been so incredibly naive here OP. I’m not trying to be patronising and I mean this kindly, but you need to read up on your tenant rights and obligations ASAP. Why on earth you would spend £3k of your own money on a property you could be served noticed on at ANY time I just cannot fathom. Do you still have receipts/invoices for this work/materials?

[Cookiesandscones]

I have found an oven which is almost identical it's just a different make of oven and also £100 cheaper

[Cookiesandscones]

@bestestbrownies yes I have all of that I also have pictures of what the house was like before we moved in and after we completed the work

[JorisBonson]

You don't have a deposit but I'm guessing you have a signed tenancy agreement?

I agree with @BestestBrownies, £3,000 on a property you may have to leave at any time is crazy.

[Cookiesandscones]

@jorisbonson yes we have signed 2 agreements one at the start and one a year later, I have copies of both

[MyGazeboisLeaking]

OP.

Your landlord is dodgy as hell. You should never have put 3k of your own money into a rental unless you are prepared to lose it.

I own two rental properties and i would never ever behave like him. That said - if you've got a shit landlord it's never easy to rectify.

In your current situation, I would let him know that you got a qualified electrician to fit the element (don't mention your uncle) and it blew the whole thing. It needs replacing, which you will do at your own personal cost and he can reduce the rent by the same amount or you can take the cooker with you when you leave.

Sorry that you're having such a crap experience. This is not the way a landlord should behave.

[MaskingForIt]

but he said had the kitchen not have been fitted I would of had to bring my own oven and if that had of broke I would have had to fix/replace that at my cost anyway

I’m an accidental landlord and the letting agent made it quite clear to me that any appliances I left in the house (washing machine, fridge, cooker etc) were my responsibility. If they break, I fix them.

If I didn’t want that responsibility, then I had to remove them and it would be let without them.

I couldn’t be doing with the hassle of removing them, and if anything happens I will get them repaired/replaced for my tenants.

I thought that was standard?

[Cookiesandscones]

@mygazeboisleaking @maskingforit thank you

My uncle is a qualified electrician he has all his trading stuff and insurance etc so regardless I could prove this he just didn't charge us that was the only difference of using him or using the people from the kitchen place, I won't be telling him he was a family member anyway but considering I did get my own electrician in I did gather it then became my fault the oven now is broken, I just didn't know if I could say to the landlord I am not buying one of your choosing and now other posters have said I will say you chose not to take responsibility for the oven in the first instance so I will be able to replace this with something of my choosing, if he did give me notice I have every intention of stripping the house back to the way it was with the exception of the painted walls obviously