Priti Patel

[Walkaround]

Is it actually possible to unintentionally bully someone? I always thought there had to be some knowledge of abuse of power - it’s supremely difficult to intimidate or coerce someone accidentally. The fact that the people Priti Patel works with as equals- other ministers - are falling over themselves to say how delightful she is to work with, whereas those who work for her accuse her of bullying surely makes it more likely her behaviour is deliberate bullying? Otherwise, her equals would find her to have an frightening, tyrannical demeanour, too!

[Helocariad]

I agree.

[Sameolesame]

There really is no excuse. I cannot ever vote for the Conservative Party after the support for Priti. Can you imagine how those who were bullied are feeling and the currency Boris has given to other bullies.

Boris is not fit as a leader. A real leader would have taken the difficult but right step and dismiss her, sending a powerful message that he is on the side of those who need support against powerful people who abuse their position and power.

I am so upset at the way the Cabinet is endorsing a bully. That current leadership should never be returned to power.

[NannyOggsWhiskyStash]

I simply cannot stand her, such a smug smirk at all times, ugh

[RAOK]

Signed

[Helocariad]

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[StormzyinaTCup]

So how many white male ministers have a £25,000 payout to a member of staff who attempted suicide in their CV?

Behind a paywall so can’t read the full article. I don’t know if it goes into specifics (I wouldn’t have thought so) but the jist is:

The House of Commons has paid more than £950,000 in public money to cover the legal costs of MPs accused of wrongdoing by their staff over the past four years, The Times has found

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/house-of-commons-covers-950-000-legal-costs-for-accused-mps-w8zz9mgjd

[Janegrey333]

Patel should go. She’s always been a liability. And now she appears to be thuggish to boot.

[ancientgran]

I don't agree with bullying but it can't be one standard for white males and another for females So how many white male ministers have a £25,000 payout to a member of staff who attempted suicide in their CV?

[Schummakker]

@Walkaround

Also, *@Thewoodfromthetrees*, Priti Patel apparently does not have a problem getting her point across to cabinet colleagues in meetings, as they are falling over themselves to say how charming she is to them as equals. The people she appears to be shouting and swearing at are her underlings. Philip Rutnam did not say he resigned because she shouted and swore at him, he accused her of doing it to his staff, people self-evidently in a less powerful position than the person bullying them.

Excellent point

[Janegrey333]

Shouting and swearing at anybody is unacceptable. Always.

[Walkaround]

@StormzyinaTCup

I have held the opinion for several months that it would be justifiable for the Queen to exercise the Royal Prerogative and dismiss Mr Johnson as Prime Minister (another Conservative would take his place) and this is yet another reason

With an eighty seat majority, in the middle of a pandemic and Brexit transition looming. I don’t think the Queen would touch that with a 10ft barge pole!

Well, I agree with you on that one!

[ListeningQuietly]

With an eighty seat majority, in the middle of a pandemic and Brexit transition looming. I don’t think the Queen would touch that with a 10ft barge pole!
On that we can agree

[StormzyinaTCup]

I have held the opinion for several months that it would be justifiable for the Queen to exercise the Royal Prerogative and dismiss Mr Johnson as Prime Minister (another Conservative would take his place) and this is yet another reason

With an eighty seat majority, in the middle of a pandemic and Brexit transition looming. I don’t think the Queen would touch that with a 10ft barge pole!

[ListeningQuietly]

The thread is merely repeating what is already in the public domain and the legal record

Priti Patel is not a fit and proper person to hold public office

[Thewoodfromthetrees]

If PP is really as bad as this thread says then yes it would be good for her to step down

[Defenbaker]

Maybe she's of the kiss up, kick down mentality. I've witnessed this many times in the workplace. I saw no humility in her apology and think she'd probably be quite unpleasant to work for.

[Walkaround]

Also, @Thewoodfromthetrees, Priti Patel apparently does not have a problem getting her point across to cabinet colleagues in meetings, as they are falling over themselves to say how charming she is to them as equals. The people she appears to be shouting and swearing at are her underlings. Philip Rutnam did not say he resigned because she shouted and swore at him, he accused her of doing it to his staff, people self-evidently in a less powerful position than the person bullying them.

[Thewoodfromthetrees]

If PP goes then yes BJ must go too

[Thewoodfromthetrees]

This is exactly what i'm saying. Finally we agree

[nosswith]

The details pointed out by some on this thread support my belief that Priti Patel should not have been appointed to the cabinet to begin with. So the responsibility for the bullying at the Home Office should be with Boris Johnson.

I have held the opinion for several months that it would be justifiable for the Queen to exercise the Royal Prerogative and dismiss Mr Johnson as Prime Minister (another Conservative would take his place) and this is yet another reason.

[VinylDetective]

@Thewoodfromthetrees

I've been in meetings where females are talked over, opinions belittled, near to impossible targets are imposed and i've found the only way to make it to the top as a female is to act the same way.

In which case, you’re probably nowhere near “the top”. In my experience people who behave like this are heading for a fall. The most successful people I’ve worked with in a career spanning 45 years are those who wouldn’t dream of behaving like that.

[KaptainKaveman]

@Thewoodfromthetrees

I've been in meetings where females are talked over, opinions belittled, near to impossible targets are imposed and i've found the only way to make it to the top as a female is to act the same way.

FGS stop defending her. It's pathetic. It's bullying through and through. Your persistent defence is honestly offensive. What is the relevance of 'meetings' you may or may not have been in. How does that mitigate PP's behaviour? We are talking about a CABINET MEMBER who is an HABITUAL BULLY.

[Walkaround]

@Thewoodfromthetrees - what you actually appear to be saying is that you cannot ever accuse a woman of bullying, because even if she is a bully, it’s not fair to call her out on it when so many men are getting away with it. Can you not see how toxic that thinking is?

[Thewoodfromthetrees]

But in any case bullying is not acceptable in any capacity

[Thewoodfromthetrees]

I've been in meetings where females are talked over, opinions belittled, near to impossible targets are imposed and i've found the only way to make it to the top as a female is to act the same way.