I was thinking of this based on the "small ways your parents fucked you up" thread so it kind of stems from that
My parent's house was very messy - they would say it was normal family clutter, and that it was cosy and lived in, but I'm not sure I've ever been in a house quite like it since, so I think it must have been unusually messy
Door handles would fall off and were never fixed, ancient carpets would be ripped up and the floor would be left, bare cement, for months. Piles of washing everywhere. Nappies bagged and left on the floor for days, though they made it to the bin eventually. Kitchen was frankly dirty, with sides invisible due to stuff being piled on. Nobody ever put anything away after it was used, it would just be left. I didn't realise until well into adult hood that people would immediately put something back where it belonged after use, as a matter of course, everything from bottle opener to hoover was just left. Never sat at dining table due to being piled high with shit. Never taught how to do any chores or how to clean properly and manage laundry. Cupboards unusable as they were so jammed full of stuff. The furniture itself was good quality - plenty of art on the walls, sofas were expensive, good carpets when we had it - so I think this meant it passed as arty and bohemian but actually it was a tip
Never any clean uniform or Games kit which led to detentions at school. Yelled at for losing things when things inevitably got lost the minute they were set down. Difficult to study as the rooms were kept dark with the curtains closed. We were always late because of things getting mislaid. Clothes never hung up, just picked from a communal pile that lived in a walk in closet.
Friends would have been welcome, but by the age of about 8 I was too embarrassed to invite them,but of course I couldn't tell my parents that so I made excuses.
Parents had good jobs and were comfortably off, they just couldn't be bothered to clean or tidy as there was always something they'd rather be doing.
They insisted until they were blue in the face that it didn't matter, that life was too short to waste cleaning, that sort of thing, but actually all it resulted in was a dishevelled childhood where everything seemed out of control and chaotic. If I'd told them that the house was embarrassing they just would have laughed at me.
When I moved out and had my first child, I did what I knew and for about a year or two my flat was a mess. I didn't know how to keep things clean and organised, and I read things like that "dust if you must" poem that floats around and ignored 99% of housework because I was spending time with my child. But then I noticed the same thing happening especially when nursery started, being late because everything was lying everywhere or no clothes were washed or dry, "losing"new clothes or toys in the mess and only finding them once they were outgrown.... It made me realise that while obviously there's no need to go to extremes and scrub your loo with bleach and a toothbrush every day, there's a reason why being reasonably clean and tidy is seen as a desirable life skill. I had to teach myself how to manage a home and to do the most basic tasks thanks to the Internet
The state of my childhood home had a really negative effect on me, and I could see the same thing happening with my own child. no it's not neglect or abuse, but when your house is so messy that it's not a pleasant or comfortable place to be, or when the mess is causing regular stress and impacting on other ordinary bits of life, then your child probably would quite like you to do a bit of cleaning rather than a craft activity with them, certainly once they're a bit older. I think people are really fooling themselves if they think that level of mess doesn't impact on their children
AIBU?
To think that living in a very messy house does impact on children
HeatingOnInJuly · 14/07/2020 21:11
Am I being unreasonable?
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I find it shocking that parents could be so neglectful as to not make sure you had sanitary products at the very least.
to many posters on this thread.
@Zaphodsotherhead
I used to keep the main house reasonable, but the children wouldn't tidy their bedrooms so I just left them to it. (And for all those who wade in with the 'you've got to MAKE them tidy up' - not that simple when you're a working single mum of five).
Can you get by if the living rooms, kitchens and bathrooms are tidy and clean but the bedrooms are shambolic? In other words, does it matter if it's rooms that the world can't 'see'?
Our bedroom is always very tidy and the bed neatly made because I find that restful. But our teens' bedrooms are messy. Used (but not dirty) clothes on the floor, beds very haphazardly made, random tat on desks and windowsills. But, everything is clean underneath the chaos. Their bedding is changed once a week, bin emptied once a week and when our cleaner is coming most of the mess is tidied away so she can clean. But the rest of the time I leave them to it and just resignedly close their doors
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It's interesting about people doing some little jobs and ignoring the huge amounts of mess everywhere else! I had someone come to our house to measure for furniture once and he was saying that the last place he had been to was truly full of mess and rubbish. He was like "what use are fitted wardrobes going to be"? I found it a bit sad. Like the person thought buying these wardrobes would magically fix their really messy house.
Horrible to read about being left without sanitary wear or loo roll for days .
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