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Fall out with my mum.. AIBU?

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HellOfATime919 · 18/05/2020 01:30

Hi everyone,

Went to visit my mum 2 days ago with my 2 DC (4 and 8). My mums neighbors children were out playing and my children started joining in. I told both DC’s to play nice and practice social distancing otherwise we would be going home. Next thing you know, the DC’s are bickering amongst each other so I tell both of them to get in to the back garden immediately - as to which my DS8 has a total meltdown (very very loud shrieking/crying - he’s currently being assessed for autism but I don’t think that has any relevance). DS4 then starts crying and refusing to come away from next doors children. So at this stage I have two screaming children on my mums drive. I grab both of their hands and warn them if they don’t go into the back garden to calm down there will be consequences. My eldest then went to hit me as to which I warned him I No and he didn’t, so I eventually managed to get them both in the back garden.

I sat them down, told them off and said regardless of who started what that they were not to argue with people and certainly not to hit or scream at people. As you can imagine my DC’s were like “but he said, but she said”, but i was firm and told them no more messing about, to stay by me, calm down and we would be leaving shortly and to not go near next doors children. My mum then jumps in and starts shouting “you’re upsetting DC8 more now by telling him your going home, there’s no need to do that your winding him up, it wasn’t their fault it was next door neighbours children who started it”, I then told my mum not to undermine me and tell me how to discipline my children. At this point DC8 is still whaling very loudly and mum then turns to my eldest son - “Dont listen DC8, it’s okay, calm down now”. And I responded “Mum, do not get involved, I’ve told them off and that is that, I do not care who started what they do not react in this way”. Then my mum responded “fuck off” to me, in front of the DC’s. I was utterly gob smacked. I said “what gives you the right to swear at me in front of my children?!” And she goes “I’m sure it’s nothing they haven’t heard between you and DH before”. I ignored it, because I could have blew up, I got the children and went home. I haven’t even addressed what has happened but neither has she and is acting like it was nothing. My mum & dad used to have terrible arguments in front of me growing up and it was awful. They aren’t together anymore and haven’t been for years. Yet she thinks this type of behaviour is acceptable ? My grandma (her mum) died of cancer 3 weeks ago and the funeral is this Friday, so I don’t feel like I can approach the situation.

Ramble , I can’t sleep.

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CoronaMoaner · 18/05/2020 14:12

Another one who can’t get past you letting your kids play with the kids from next door. That’s 3 households you mixed in the space of a matter of moments.

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Spied · 18/05/2020 14:06

It sounds like it all just got on top of her.
We can only take so much and your DM sounds like she was trying to keep the peace before she snapped.
I don't think it's right to take the DC and allow them to play with next doors kids.
Your dm was probably stressed and on-edge about this even before adding the stress of her recent bereavement.

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ConkerGame · 18/05/2020 14:00

So much wrong here!

You shouldn’t have taken the kids to see her, that’s against the current rules.

You shouldn’t have let your kids play with the other kids - that’s against the rules and opening both families up to more risk. Was also asking for trouble as kids don’t understand social distancing.

You shouldn’t have ramped up the situation by shouting at your DCs and getting them so worked up. Especially when you’re supposed to be helping your grieving mum.

Your mum shouldn’t have undermined you but she was probably very upset at the thought of you all having to leave when it could so easily have been avoided.

Your mum definitely shouldn’t have sworn at you, but she’s grieving. If this is a one off, I’d leave it. If it’s not then I would wait a week or so after the funeral and then tell her it’s completely unacceptable and you’ll leave immediately if it happens again.

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 18/05/2020 14:00

My DM's funeral was in March. I hope that, if I had behaved badly, my bad behaviour would not be excused because of her death. My DM, who never used such language anyway, needs to have her life and the person she was honoured, not used as an excuse.

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NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 18/05/2020 13:55

"my mum was fine with my DC’s playing with next doors DC’s. We’ve all been socially distancing and there isn’t a problem with the DC’s playing together - especially when they’re going back to school in June"

  1. YABU in mixing households and letting your DC mix with both your DM and other children. Govt guidelines are still that households should not mix. People slagged off the Govt for not coming up with a rough pathway as to relaxing lockdown in advance but, when they do, some start behaving as if those rules have already been relaxed. (Yes, I do mean you, OP).

  2. Your DM was BU for swearing in front of the children.

  3. Your DM was BU for undermining you and telling your oldest to ignore what you said.

    Just because your DGM has died, if doesn't give your DM the right to swear at you and undermine you. She should butt out when you discipline the children.

    In your position I would have one conversation with her about it where you tell her that you don't look back on your childhood fondly because of her and your F arguing in front of you and you do not want your children subjected to the same. Going forward she is not to argue with you, undermine you or use bad language in front of the DC.
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Scrumbleton · 18/05/2020 13:52

I mean your mum (as well as my DS)

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Scrumbleton · 18/05/2020 13:52

Cut her some slack - bereavement brings out the worst in some - my sister was an absolute nightmare when our dad died. 3 years on she’s absolutely mortified by her behaviour and she made some good lifestyle choices as a result of the consequences of her behaviour. She was VVVVU though x

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lowlandLucky · 18/05/2020 13:45

As much as i hate swearing in front of children i feel for your Mum, she is coping with lockdown, her Mother dying and the up coming funeral, 2 children screaming their heads off and a daughter threatening to take he r Grandchildren home, Poor soul must be at the end of her thether. Maybe she needs understanding for her Daughter

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Iooselipssinkships · 18/05/2020 13:10

I'd love to go see my Mum and have the children run round the garden but they can't, because we're following the fucking rules. I don't know why other people think they're so special it doesn't apply to them, it makes a mockery of those who are missing family and doing what they're told. Yes it's hard and it's been ages but if we all acted like this then it would be a whole lot worse.

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OldEvilOwl · 18/05/2020 13:00

Why the hell were your children playing with next doors children in the first place? Did their parents know that you allowed your children to 'join in'? They might have members of their family who are shielding!

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Theplotisgoneawayforever · 18/05/2020 12:55

I think you put your children in a tough social situation, which didn't work out. Then they got punished for something that a lot of adults are finding difficult to do so I'd feel you're totally in the wrong. And from the sounds of it you didn't diffuse the situation instead you ramped it up. So I'd say your mum was annoyed and wondering what was the point.

She probably shouldn't have intervened but it's at the end of a long list of things that shouldn't have happened.

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DonLewis · 18/05/2020 12:54

Ah, look, everything is quite stressful atm. And you're both grieving. I'd chalk this one up to lockdown fraying nerves and grief playing its part.

In your shoes, I'd just message your mum and say something like 'hey. The other day was nuts. I love you. Anything I can do to help with Friday?' and leave it at that.

If it happens again, well, you're going to have to address it, but for now, let go.

Sorry for your loss Flowers

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skyblu · 18/05/2020 12:48

Using F’s in front of children is awful in my opinion. A grandmother using F’s in front of her grandchildren is absolutely beyond disgusting.

Whole situation sounds like a nightmare to be honest and probably could’ve been managed better from the start (but that makes me sound self-righteous).

Don’t know where you go from here to be honest. This needs sorting out completely between you & your mum before you re-introduce the children to any situation involving you both though.

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CelestialSpanking · 18/05/2020 12:40

Your mum is grieving for her mother so I’d definitely let it go.

As for your children’s behaviour, you say your eldest is being assessed for autism. What I’ve learnt from my own child who is a similar age and who has additional needs including autism, it’s when he’s struggling to communicate his feelings or explain what happened in his own words and isn’t able to (in this case because you’ve cut him off and shouted at him) it’s going to result in a Meltdown and he’s going to struggle to calm down from it. I’m not meaning to be patronising btw, I’ve just had to learn to do things differently over the years and that it’s important to let my son have his say even if it doesn’t always make much sense to me. I also have had to learn to give less of a shit about what other people think when they see my son have a meltdown.

Good luck with the assessment process and I’m sorry about your gran Flowers

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Lovely1a2b3c · 18/05/2020 12:29

She was probably sad herself that you were leaving if she wanted to see you all.

3 weeks is nothing in terms of loss so she is probably struggling with grief at the moment.

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MouthBreathingRage · 18/05/2020 10:53

Have I missed something? We’re not allowed to go round to family’s houses and let the children play with next doors kids?

I'm reading this thinking exactly the same thing Hmm. The situation should never have occurred because the op shouldn't have been in her mum's house or her children playing with the neighbours.

However, it did happen. To be honest, I'd wait until after the funeral to say anything, but I'd not be impressed with anyone swearing at me in front of my children grieving or not. I'd avoid visiting with the children until lockdown is actually over (oh, and I'll be very surprised if the schools actually start in June!), and if that's really not possible then at least keep your kids apart from the neighbours so there won't be any 'bickering' (or spreading germs).

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Herpesfreesince03 · 18/05/2020 10:48

YABU for visiting family, letting your kids play with the neighbours kids during a pandemic, and failure to take them home after repeated warnings, especially when your child swung for you 😳

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AramintaLee · 18/05/2020 10:45

Honestly? Life is too short. I would assume the recent loss of her mother and this current situation with the pandemic caused her uncharacteristic outburst. I would let it go on this occasion and put it down as a one off. She needs your support at this difficult time.

However, if this behaviour continues, I would probably try and have a calm conversation (without the kids present)

Good luck!

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Etinox · 18/05/2020 10:42

You’re right not to mention it. Hope the funeral is as good as can be expected Flowers

As an aside though-“my mum was fine with my DC’s playing with next doors DC’s”
It’s not up to your mum! The rules are one person out of your household 2 metres apart. Children can’t social distance. Schools Unions and the dept of Education and thrashing this out now and it’s probable schools won’t go back- the children definitely won’t be playing together.

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Ilovetea09 · 18/05/2020 10:35

In this instance it sounds like your all very wound up and emotions will be running high so I would just act normally now or try to have a little chat with your mum and clear the air.
But your kids shouldn't have been playing with next doors kids (even if socially distanced) and also you shouldn't be at your mums because your mixing households!

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WoeIsMee · 18/05/2020 10:30

Have I missed something? We’re not allowed to go round to family’s houses and let the children play with next doors kids?

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HellOfATime919 · 18/05/2020 10:29

We’ve seen my mum a few times since my gran passed, my mum was fine with my DC’s playing with next doors DC’s. We’ve all been socially distancing and there isn’t a problem with the DC’s playing together - especially when they’re going back to school in June. It’s just the fact the children started bickering and screaming amongst each other so I tried to sort the situation my own way, where she just jumped in and then told me to “fuck off”. I’m angry but the funeral is Friday so I’m not even going to mention it.

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NerrSnerr · 18/05/2020 08:15

I agree that she's grieving and you should let it go.

I also agree with PP, this is why they are still not advising that family groups mix and one person can meet one other in a public space because with all the best intentions the more people the harder it is to social distance.

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Etinox · 18/05/2020 05:55

And this is why it’s one member visiting in a public space 🤷🏻‍♀️
Also give your mum a break.

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Muppetry76 · 18/05/2020 04:08

I disagree. OF COURSE she's grieving, yes lockdown is hard, but undermining my authority and telling me to fuck off would absolutely result in me doing so - in fact I'd take it as FOTTFSOFTFOSM.

Your mum has a history of this. Don't let your kids be exposed to this behaviour (interesting point though if what your mum says about you and dh arguing). It's not too big a jump from hearing granny say it to them repeating it at home or school.

It's a crazy world we're in, but nobody tells me to fuck off in front of my kids without some hard consequences.

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