To remind those living in tourist areas not to assume people aren't local!

[GlummyMcGlummerson]

I was born and raised in Yorkshire, but spent my whole adult life living in Scotland.

I'm now back in my hometown, armed with a mild Scottish accent I accidentally picked up after 18 years living there . Went for a walk in a popular tourist area today, a 10 minute drive from my home, with my DC. I heard two sets of people grumble about people travelling to come to the Dales after they heard me chatting to the DC. There were also a few posts on local Facebook groups about our-of-towners - I may be paranoid but one said "One family came from as far as Scotland!" - so possibly referring to me!

I've also seen it on another thread too someone saying that people from the Midlands were in Devon this week. No mention of how they knew where they came from

Unless you actually ask them and they confirm they aren't locals, please don't assume. Some people do move to new places! And while I'm at it I don't actually think local areas "belong" to local people any more than they belong anyone else and I'm a bit when locals grumble about tourists.

Also I managed to snap a picture of a couple who grumbled at me. Bastards

[DorisDances]

Ignore them...unless you were trying to buy 'precious things'....

[Amatteroftime]

And sounding a bit stereotypical here but over the years you start to be able to spot people on holiday, and those that live here. The holidaymakers dress like they are in ibiza. The people with strong midland accents, asking me how to get to our one supermarket, were dressed ready for an evening on the strip.

Obviously not everyone dresses like that.

Just explaining how there were a few signs they weren't from the county.

[Lalalaboring]

I agree! I live in Cornwall but I didn’t think the territorialism was as local as a 3 mile radius certainly haven’t noticed any attitudes like this in Cornwall throughout Falmouth, Truro and north coast nearby.

I think it’s definitely an issue if people arrive on holiday though.

[SoloMummy]

I'm afraid that yes your situation will arise, but many people are terrified that they've managed to maintain low level of of contagious and deaths, and influx the "tourists" (for us read "Londonders" who at the best of times are inconsiderate) and us locals will suffer for their selfishness, because apparently driving 100 plus miles or using public transport is local!

[LemonPudding]

Those living in Cornwall have shown how truly vile some of them are. And, as I said on another thread, I bet a lot of them weren't born there anyway.

Hypocrites.

[81Byerley]

You need one of these! www.amazon.com/Im-Not-Tourist-Live-T-shirt/dp/B07PNRLFM9?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

[FloraGreysteel]

I live at London Bridge and this isn't a problem as Londoners are a diverse bunch anyway. It is blissfully relaxed and neighbourly without tourists, commuters and day trippers at the moment.

[MrsJBaptiste]

Completely agree, nobody owns the area they live in and cannot tell others to stay away 😠 Do you think I want someone infected to come where I live? No but as it's not Devon, Cornwall or Cumbria nobody actually gives a shit. Moan about not wanting CV to be brought into your small touristy town but if people do go, you can't do anything about it.

As for knowing everyone in your area and spotting people who aren't local, I could not think of anything worse than knowing every single person you come across 😯

[JudyCoolibar]

I follow a couple of Cornwall FB groups which have been full of complaints about holidaymakers coming to the area, but whenever I look at the welcome for those areas they are absolutely deserted. In one place they were up in arms when they saw signs of activity in holiday lets, only to discover (rather to their disappointment) that the cottages were actually being used to accommodate health professionals and care home workers.

[GlummyMcGlummerson]

On the other hand, if I drove ten minutes I'd be absolutely miles away

How fast are you driving!

I live in a Yorkshire town and went to a walking route in the Dales. So not a community as such

[1forsorrow]

To all the "incomers" - you need to have lived in a village for at least 50 years, and, have at least 3 generations in the local cemetery I used to work with a man in his 60s. His family had lived in a local village all his life, his parents had a house and he bought a house, one set of grandparents had lived in the village and the others on a farm on the edge of the village, his cousin still lived on the farm. So his mother died and instead of selling her house he gave it to his daughter. She had been born and brought up in the village but moved away for university and to start her career, now she was newly married, planning a family and wanted to move back home. He was really upset that one of his neighbours started shouting at him in a shop saying he should have let a local family have the house, others joined in. I don't think he ever felt quite the same about his village again.

I think people can be ever so slightly deranged.

[Amatteroftime]

To all the "incomers" - you need to have lived in a village for at least 50 years, and, have at least 3 generations in the local cemetery

Sadly this has some truth to it. We have a lot of new builds going up and people are moving here, so attitudes are changing, but the retired generation in my town don't view you as local unless you are born here and have never moved. DM has lived here for coming up 50 years and isn't local to some of them.

[thecatsthecats]

I'm from the Lakes, and there's a huge number of offcomers who've moved there because it's a lovely place to live. I would personally guess far more easily by someone's clothes whether they were an offcomer.

(hint, the newer and more unnecessarily comprehensive your hiking gear is, the less like a local you look)

But all the same, as soon as it becomes legal to return to see my parents there, I'll be doing so. I'd hope that legitimately visiting my family places me lower down the order of animosity than hikers.

(Any other Cumbrians remember Foot and Mouth? Cause for some of us, this ain't our first lockdown )

[1forsorrow]

@MrsJBaptiste No but as it's not Devon, Cornwall or Cumbria nobody actually gives a shit. As a resident of a Devon coastal town, although I haven't quite managed 30 years here yet, can I say I have no problem with you coming. As I said above I think some people are deranged.

Although I have to say I'm not sure why you'd bother at the moment as nothing is open, even toilets. The best you will manage is a can of coke and a sandwich from the local supermarket. The only way to get you seaside fish and chips is to order online and give an address for them to deliver to, not sure if they'd deliver to the beach. I don't even bother and it is about 1.5 miles for me.

[endofthelinefinally]

There was a very sad story about a community nurse who moved into a local holiday cottage to isolate from her family. She went to go to work one morning to find her tyres had been slashed.

[1forsorrow]

@thecatsthecats I'm from the Lakes, and there's a huge number of offcomers who've moved there because it's a lovely place to live. And why shouldn't they? Going round guessing where people come from on the basis of their clothes is just a little bit sad.

Where have you moved to and do you think people are judging what you wear and guessing where you come from.

[MarieQueenofScots]

For me at the moment it’s not about people coming in general. It’s about the fact that in parts of where they’re visiting you simply can’t maintain 2m social distancing, so a few locals walking is manageable. Hundreds of people (like weekend before lockdown) isnt. Plus there was the aggression and abuse when people were asked not to park on private land.

[1forsorrow]

There was a very sad story about a community nurse who moved into a local holiday cottage to isolate from her family. She went to go to work one morning to find her tyres had been slashed. I think that was the Lakes as well, she probably wasn't dressed like a local.

[1forsorrow]

Plus there was the aggression and abuse when people were asked not to park on private land. That is obviously wrong but so is locals threatening to slash tyres because people are parked on "their" road.

Where I live the council have locked all the car parks and as someone living locally it annoys me particularly when they also moan about how much money they are losing because of lost car park revenue.

[GiveItARestJosephine]

I think I get it now - to be a proper Yorkshireman/woman you need to be born there. To be a proper Anytown villager your family need to have been born there for five generations. But Londoners can come from anywhere and don’t have to pass an accent test, where you happened to be born isn’t your most interesting characteristic.

[GlummyMcGlummerson]

You're not local. You haven't lived there for 18 years. So yes YABU

Hang on - I'm unreasonable for going for a walk where I live.

Good grief!

[Boredinthehouse]

I’m laughing my tits off at the accusations about Cornish people being vile.

My husband isn’t Cornish and nobody gives a flying fuck. Neither are his parents - again nobody gives a flying fuck. And neither are most of his colleagues - again nobody gives a flying fuck

When we lived in London recently barely anyone knew where Cornwall was and now we’ve moved back - people don’t give a flying fuck.

There’s a theme here

The keyboard warriors from Cornwall don’t actually share a common opinion.

And it is generally those who are bitter and relatively stupid who are bitching online about tourists anyway especially on FB.

It’s all rather hilarious! Just because a few hostile wenches on Mumsnet won’t come to Cornwall because we’re all vile doesn’t stop the rest of the population when holidays are allowed.

And remember us Cornish go on holidays too the stupidity and generalisation here is astounding.

[1forsorrow]

I also think toilets should be opened, there is going to be a whole new epidemic if this carries on.

[pickledbunions]

I think I am safe in town, why would I travel from Scotland to visit Wolverhampton?

[ThisIsNotARealAvo]

There is a lot of generalisation about Cornwall on here but there have been more "please don't come to Cornwall" comments than any other, or so it seems.