To think a transgender male murderer should not be allowed to win 'Miss Fitness' competition WHILE IN JAIL

[AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth]

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/transgender-murderer-crowned-prisons-miss-12022026

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/outrage-transgender-prisoner-living-woman-12022675

[stitchglitched]

No I don't. Can you answer my question now please?

[GnotherGnu]

stitchglitched, do you think it's acceptable that there were 20,000 assaults on prisoners by other prisoners last year?

[BigDeskBob]

Gnother, I didn't ask you why we don't have sex segregation, I asked you why we do.

[busyboysmum]

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/up-to-half-of-trans-inmates-may-be-sex-offenders-26rz2crhs

[busyboysmum]

Also now we class any man who has a GRC or is on the way to getting one as a woman it would be interesting to see how many of those 2016 women were actually biological women.

[AssassinatedBeauty]

Here's another interesting document about prison statistics:

researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf

In 2016 there were 126 women in prison for sexual offences. Is that many? There were 13,808 men in prison for sexual offences, for comparison.

[stitchglitched]

Gnu do you think it is acceptable that women are forced to share intimate spaces including showers with a male bodied person?

[GnotherGnu]

BigDeskBob, manifestly we don't have sex segregation in order to keep vulnerable prisoners away from violent ones.

[AssassinatedBeauty]

Here's a helpful link with some facts about the England & Wales female prison population:

www.womeninprison.org.uk/research/key-facts.php

The most pertinent one being that 84% of women are in prison for non-violent offences.

[titchy]

These threads never include any thoughts on the fact that many female prisoners are convicted violent criminals, and that includes crimes with a sexual element.

That's because there are very very few of them. HTH

[busyboysmum]

And all this is happening under the current law. Imagine what would happen were self id to be introduced.

[PositivelyPERF]

predominately gay so he’s not actually gay then, but at best bisexual, so has a sexual interest in females. Before any transmaidens start with the “what about the lesbians”, they can’t get women pregnant and are much less likely to force or bully women into a sexual relationship. HE should never have been permitted to enter a female prison. It just shows a misogynist lack of respect for females from the judicial system.

[MrPan]

Is there a privatisation element to all this. That is it encourages a private expense IF you don't wish to share a space with the opposite sex and can afford to not.

[kaytee87]

In his evidence, Baker – who described himself as “predominately gay”

^ he even described himself as gay in his own evidence.

If he genuinely thought he was a women then surely he'd describe himself as a straight female?

He just didn't fancy going into a male prison, the judge could probably see right through it but too scared to say anything incase they're accused of hate speech.

[BigDeskBob]

GnotherGnu, so why do we supposedly have sex segregation in prison?

[GnotherGnu]

Please include your thoughts on the fact that many of the male prisoners in question are convicted violent criminals and/or rapists

These threads never include any thoughts on the fact that many female prisoners are convicted violent criminals, and that includes crimes with a sexual element.

[BigDeskBob]

I do think that was the whole point of the item. The paper was highlighting that men are in women's prison s, not that a competition is unfair. It's very difficult to argue that this obviously very fit murderer is in any way more vulnerable than any other fit male murderer.

[busyboysmum]

At least it's getting into the mainstream press now so people are talking about it and saying how ridiculous it all is.

[YetAnotherSpartacus]

Nope, the results of one Scottish jail's fitness competition affects literally no-one here. If anyone can PM me proof that they have been directly affected by this 'result' then I'll send them a fiver

It's all a bit "first they came for the Jews, but I'm not a Jew so..."

[CecilyP]

You're missing the point Falmer and Teddy. It's comparing how bad things can take hold gradually either without people noticing, or thinking minor things aren't important, or it won't really effect them.

[Falmer]

I agree with Teddy that comparing trans to nazis is ridiculous. I think people are losing the plot over this!

[Xulishesthepilot]

Oh good, you lot are all loving on each other on AIBU again. I only came to see if anyone had been brave enough to step out of line. Pleased to see there's been a few. As you were.

[TrustNaeFuckerEver]

Shame it wasn’t a years supply of tampons.

Redditor style upvote here

[beluga425]

[Fekko]

Shame it wasn’t a years supply of tampons.