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AIBU?

AIBU to really hate religion?

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speakout · 30/10/2017 07:41

My 5 year old great niece is very upset right now,
She was given a fairy door- small wooden one that sticks on the bottom of a skirting board.
My sister- very religious has seen it in her room, ripped it off and broken it telling the child that Satan will come through and it is an evil trap.
I am trying to be respectful of my sister's religion but it is hard.

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Slimthistime · 30/10/2017 10:17

if schools don't become secular, I don't know where we will end up.

and I say that in context of where we are!!

OP "My sister is a science teacher. Not a lunatic at all."
One doesn't exclude the other.

BackforGood · 30/10/2017 10:19

YABVVVU to take your sister's loopy behaviour, and then suggest that is "religion".
There are millions, no billions of people in the world who follow religions, and very few who are as loopy as your sister.
It is the same sort of thinking as those who say 'all men are rapists' or paedophiles or whatever other evil you want to insert, because one person is.
Ridiculous.

speakout · 30/10/2017 10:26

BackforGood but if that is the case how come I have 8 loopy family members?
And the 1000 Baptist familes who send their kids to school to be taught creationism.
That's all just "loopy" people? And nothing to do with religion?

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missyB1 · 30/10/2017 10:30

*are they all just loopy people?"

Well they are certainly gullible and naive which is why they seem to belong to some sort of hard line extreme religion, which seems to take every word of the bible literally instead of being able to interpret it and understand the teachings for what they were meant to represent.

This is not in any way reflective of most religious people and i suspect you know that.

magpiemischief · 30/10/2017 10:32

BackforGood but if that is the case how come I have 8 loopy family members?

An inherited propensity towards mental illnesses? Possible, some people in the field suspect genetic links. Doctors usually ask about family history.

mickeysminnie · 30/10/2017 10:34

How did the child get the door and stick it onto the skirting board?
Or as some of your posts suggest it was her mum who bought it for her, then the child's grandmother ripped it off the wall and made the child do penance?
I don't give a rats ass what religion you believe you are following but why on earth is the child being the scapegoat?
Or have I it all wrong?

speakout · 30/10/2017 10:40

I don't know who bought the door for the child.
I do know she has an interest in fairies- she has in the past made little fairy patches the garden with yogurt pots and leaves.
My sister ( the grandmother) has tolerated this, but it seems the fairy door was a step too far.

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speakout · 30/10/2017 10:42

mickey- I think my sister panicked.
She has suggested to the child that demons may already have slipped though and been sprinkling the home with holy water.

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mickeysminnie · 30/10/2017 10:43

But surely whomever bought the door for the child should be the one in trouble rather than the child?

speakout · 30/10/2017 10:45

mickey- I guess so, but it's the child that my sister is trying to protect.

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OliviaPopeRules · 30/10/2017 10:46

The thing is my sister is doing this out of love.
She truly thinks she is protecting the child.

This is not an action of spite or malice.

That's why I blame religion.*

Sorry but this is BS. Your sister is doing this to control and drive fear into the child and frankly she is evil. I think to say she has mental health issues is unfair to those who do. She is not evil because she is Christian but has chosen this extreme form of Christianity because it suits her.
Btw there is much in the bible to support many thing including peace and love, people just choose what they like.
I’m not a fan of religion either but mostly because it gives people like our sister an excuse to abuse.
If I know her I would report to SS as that is child cruelty and abuse.

mickeysminnie · 30/10/2017 10:47

So they gave have allowed it and now an invisible line has been crossed, a line that no one was aware of, so the child is being punished?
It has nothing to do it religion and everything to do with your sister being a nasty vindictive bully, and I'd say the same for your niece who is allowing it to happen to her child rather than stand up and protect her.

OliviaPopeRules · 30/10/2017 10:52

Also if you really are concerned about the child report the school for teaching creationism and Santa/Satan shit and report your sister and niece to SS.
Stop blaming religion they are responsible for their own actions.
You might also want to let them know that the only place they are headed with the carry on is hell.

RedBullBlood · 30/10/2017 10:53

My BIL is a priest. Runs a soup kitchen, giving some people their one meal of the day. Visits the sick and elderly, often being their only visitor, ever. Is about to deal with the rush of people who never grace the church from one month to the next but want to serve Christmas dinner to the homeless. They'll be upset with him when he tells them there's a waiting list, but to feel free to volunteer all the rest of year. They won't.
What a bastard, eh?

emmyrose2000 · 30/10/2017 10:58

Religion is evil. People justify their shitty actions because they think it makes them superior. I'd like to see all religion banned! Or at least taught as fiction. Tell the child fairies live at the bottom of the garden, and they are great!

Agreed.

OP, your sister and her like minded kin are absolutely batshit insane. They have no right to poison an innocent child's mind with their insanity.

That poor little girl being subjected to this brainwashing and cruelty.

Noimbrianfromhull · 30/10/2017 11:05

I'd call social services. This isn't just about beliefs - it's emotional abuse of a child.

Slimthistime · 30/10/2017 11:06

will social services help? I mean, that entire frikking school exists legally!

ReanimatedSGB · 30/10/2017 11:08

Yes, I think it sounds like emotional abuse, as well.
How did you get clear of it, OP? Was there another relative who was able to support and encourage you? If there are other family members who are not subject to these nasty delusions, could you get them to rally round and help your niece, too?

Noimbrianfromhull · 30/10/2017 11:11

I think social services would at least look into a 5 year old child being told she'd possibly let demons into the house and being forced to pray for an hour for forgiveness.

MargoLovebutter · 30/10/2017 11:12

As lots of other posters have said, this is not a 'religion' thing, this is a control issue. What religion believes that a child's pretend fairy door invites 'Satan' into the house???????? I doubt very much that it is specified anywhere. This is a very unkind person's interpretation of something that they believe projected onto their daughter and grand-daughter to control and upset them. This is just bad behaviour NOT religion.

OliviaPopeRules · 30/10/2017 11:14

I mean, that entire frikking school exists legally!

Does it really though because I’ve never heard of a school like this in the UK.

speakout · 30/10/2017 11:16

How can I call social services on a school with 1000 pupils?

The school is presumably operating within LA regulations.

How can I report a school to SS because I disagree with creationism being taught?

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canttestright · 30/10/2017 11:18

Religion can bring out the best and worst in people.

It is also, essentially, philosophy by another name. Christianity is not about interpreting the bible literally, not for the majority of people who claim they are Christian. All religions incorporate the pagan/folklore beliefs of people who came before. Irish Catholicism with its candle lighting and saints absorbs a lot of pre-Christian thinking. Most people who claim they are rational/follow science are as prone to lazy thinking as everyone else. I don't buy the idea that religion is this separate force that can be brought to an end- since the beginning of time, people have come together to organise rules for how to think about morals and ethics and I don't see that changing.

I don't believe in god but I feel there's a growth in anti-religious rhetoric which is worrying. Your family members were raised with a belief system and as part of what sounds like a very extremist cult-like church. Some people have the strength to leave places like that, others don't. It is emotional abuse. Is there someone they respect who could talk to them? Would you approach social services? Ultimately if they have immersed themselves in a church community and a private education system so cut off from other forms of thought it's difficult to reach them. But it's not how the majority of people experience religion.

Slimthistime · 30/10/2017 11:20

cant" I don't believe in god but I feel there's a growth in anti-religious rhetoric which is worrying"

I don't think there's been enough of it when there are still religious assemblies in schools etc.

DioneTheDiabolist · 30/10/2017 11:24

DS goes to Catholic school where 3 Fairy doors had appeared over a weekend. The children thought it was brilliant and they were the basis of much imaginative art, writing and play.

It's not religion that's the problem here, it's your family OP.

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