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AIBU?

To wonder if the country will hold a minute's silence for this victim or

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JunefromAccounts · 28/06/2017 16:22

Does it not matter because it was a "domestic incident" and not a terrorist attack

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Mrscaindingle · 28/06/2017 17:49

*But I think a minutes silence for domestic violence victims on IWD would be appropriate. Unfortunately that would attract the "WHAT ABOUT THE MEN??????' comments

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If there was a like button for posts MrsDV I would like this

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BabsGanoush · 28/06/2017 17:57

In a way I do agree that they are losing their impact. Sadly there seems to be one a week at the moment. I was in Asda on Monday and the tannoy said something about a minutes silence but it was so soft I couldn't hear it fully. I couldn't recall a more recent tragedy and most people carried on shopping so I hoovered by the fruit and veg in a semi 'silence'.

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HipsterHunter · 28/06/2017 18:20

I think OP makes a good point.

We are quick to pearl clutch and to scream NEVER AGAIN when there are a couple of deaths from a terrorist attack, but no one really gives a shit about 'normal' violent deaths.

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NotYoda · 28/06/2017 18:23

I agree that there should be a minute's silence for women murdered by their partners.

2 women a week killed by current or ex partners is a scandal and a tragedy

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SummerTimeSoon · 28/06/2017 18:32

Maybe we should just have a single minutes silence for all women killed by domestic/male violence..it's an epidemic and needs much more awareness.

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SummerTimeSoon · 28/06/2017 18:34

Yes MrsDV international women's day would is a great idea. I wonder if people would get behind that?

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JunefromAccounts · 28/06/2017 18:38

YABU for reading that rag

A mother of two children is brutally murdered but you take more exception to the paper that reported it than than the actual killing?

I linked to the Mail because it was the only paper that I could find on my phone reporting it online.

I agree that minutes silences are losing their impact but I genuinely don't understand why Jo Cox's murder and the murder of the man at Finsbury Park are deemed shocking enough for the nation to pause but not the murder of victims of domestic abuse like Julie or ...

To wonder if the country will hold a minute's silence for this victim or

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JunefromAccounts · 28/06/2017 18:41

... if we're only going to pause for victims murdered by killers unknown to them, what about 18 year old Ellen. Murdered in daylight as she walked home from college.

To wonder if the country will hold a minute's silence for this victim or

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TheFirstMrsDV · 28/06/2017 19:33

It was SasBels suggestion.

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TheFirstMrsDV · 28/06/2017 19:34

and the murder of the man at Finsbury Park
You are being disingenuous

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frasersmummy · 28/06/2017 19:45

Why would we have a mins silence for women murdered by partners... because for some people this cause is close to their heart and they feel it needs highlighting..??

Okay what about a mins silence for the 17 babies who are stillborn or die a few days after brth every day in the UK.. where's their rememberance ..

I'm not advocating this..just pointing out we all have our own caused that make us pause and think

There is no need for all the forced minutes silences

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DailyFailAreCunts · 28/06/2017 19:52

A mother of two children is brutally murdered but you take more exception to the paper that reported it than than the actual killing?

I linked to the Mail because it was the only paper that I could find on my phone reporting it online.

I didn't click on your link because it was a Fail one, so I have no idea what it was about.

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SasBel · 28/06/2017 19:55

Thanks TheFirstMrsDV I get ignored then have folk repeat my question/statement/joke and get credit for it in RL too

Maybe the minutes silence has become a bit too frequent, and lost its impact.

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JunefromAccounts · 28/06/2017 20:31

You are being disingenuous

No, I'm not. I don't understand why death caused by terrorists is more newsworthy and causes more outrage than the dozens of women who are killed by men known to them or random strangers.

So, there's a terrorist attack and we have thread after thread on MN about how awful it is but the brutal murder of Ellen Higginbottom generated very little coverage or outrage. Maybe we are desensitised to the brutalisation of women in this country?

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NotACleverName · 28/06/2017 20:34

but the brutal murder of Ellen Higginbottom generated very little coverage

It generated plenty of coverage from the Manchester Evening News.

If we had a minute silence for every murder nobody in the country would ever speak again ffs.

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TheFirstMrsDV · 28/06/2017 20:35

Then you are confused.
The minutes silence was not for the death of one man
It was for the horrendous attack on a large group of innocent people and the attempt to raise hatred and violence against a group of people.

Are you seriously accusing women who you know NOTHING about of not caring about violence against women?

Are you very young?

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RiverTam · 28/06/2017 20:36

Agree completely. The two minutes silence is for those who fell in war defending their country. It is dismissed every time it is used for other reason, especially when they become so frequent - DH has had loads recently, it's utterly ridiculous. A tragic loss of life is a tragic loss of life, whether it's front page news or not. Either do this for all or for none and leave it where it belongs, on Rememberqnce Sunday.

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Swallalala · 28/06/2017 20:37

Because it's usually multiple lives lost and complete devastation to a town/city/country after a terrorist attack.

Sadly situations like the murdered teacher aren't uncommon and are rarely even reported on. It doesn't mean that her life was any less valuable than those lost in terrorist attacks or the Grenfell fires for instance.

You saying you 'don't understand' why one death is less newsworthy than another is not true. You do understand, I can't help but feel you're purposely trying to cause upset with your post.

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JunefromAccounts · 28/06/2017 20:42

Stop being so antagonistic, DV.

More women are killed by the violence of men than they are by terrorist attacks. The coverage given to the victims of the latter is far greater. There are no candle lit vigils held across the country or huge fundraising events. Personally, I think the senseless murder of an 18 year old girl is just as tragic as the butchering of an MP.

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JunefromAccounts · 28/06/2017 20:44

Swallahala - who am I trying to upset?

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TheFirstMrsDV · 28/06/2017 20:49

I am responding to your antagonistic and patronising tone

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JunefromAccounts · 28/06/2017 20:55

No you're not, Mrs DV. You're just posting true to form.

We should be furious about the murder of women in this country but, unless, it classed as terrorism then we just shrug our shoulders and say "oh lots of women are murdered. It just happens".

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indigox · 28/06/2017 20:56

Do you want the country to have a minutes silence every time someone is murdered?

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stopfuckingshoutingatme · 28/06/2017 20:56

I have been thinking about this too - not about the minute if silence per se

But the fact that we do need an initiative to highlight the brutally high statistics and as with child abuse we need to encourage a 'don't walk by' initiative

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dudsville · 28/06/2017 20:59

I would like it if we held a minute's silence for wrongful deaths. Maybe the daily reminder would help things.

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