Seriously???

[Socksey]

I've just seen posts on FB and on the news with boys wanting the luxury of skirts in the warm.... seriously.... for a few days in the year they think women/girls attire is more comfortable and make a 'thing' of it ... maybe they should try it in the middle of winter when those skirts don't do much against the cold but girls (school uniform) can't wear trousers.. . Or what about other items of female work uniform.. .. don't see them trying to deal with uncomfortable shoes or tights or any other type if constrictive clothing....
The ones o the news had their skirts too short to be acceptable in many schools and, both boys and girls would probably be more comfortable in shorts....
Hmmmm

[alltouchedout]

[PleaseStopCompeting]

I too think it was great what the boys did.

But OP, I think you also have a point. Perhaps boys are more likely than girls to revolt when things don't work in their favour (or perhaps the response to it is generally better)? I don't know how many girls even think to do something about when their uniforms are less comfortable/colder in winter. May we should encourage them to.

[FakePlasticTeaLeaves]

hahahaha.

So no one should make a 'thing' about anything, but instead try to suffer like another group of people do instead.

And also, yes, you read the story very wrong.

[Justanothersingledoutnumber]

I suspect you thought everyone would jump on this and start trans bashing OP... Well it backfired as these boy were actually standing up for the right of all pupils to wear shorts.

nice try though.

[WorraLiberty]

Any thoughts on the replies so far, OP?

[notomatoes]

Oh, OP, you are completely right. Because one group in society suffers we should make everybody suffer.

Or, you know, we could try and support EVERYBODY'S right to dress appropriately for the weather.

[TSSDNCOP]

I loved the story, not for the fact he schools policy is crazy, but because it was an intelligent well executed protest.

Worra I was amazed about the hairy legs too, but missed that he shaved them and had another run at it.

Well done lads!

OP

[FitBot]

YANBU.

Bought lots of summer clothes for the dds last week. Also had to pick up an outfit for my nephew. It's unbelievable how frilly and revealing the girls clothes are compared with the practical comfy boys stuff. It really pissed me off, why should girls be eye candy and boys get to feel comfy and unfussy,.

H&M is very bad for their hyper gender stereotypical clothing range but they are not the only ones. Unbelievable that they are s scandi company i thought they were great with feminism.

[Mulledwine1]

A while ago the OFT looked into the school uniform market - it really is time that there was another review. It should be possible to buy most of the elements of a school uniform from the usual suppliers such as M&S and only specialist items such as a school tie or badge for a jumper or blazer from the school.

And uniforms should be non-sexist. If boys want to wear skirts, well why not? And I find it incredible that there are still schools who say girls who have to wear skirts. DS' school insists on ties for boys but not girls - I can kind of understand that but it doesn't make it any less sexist.

[WorraLiberty]

FitBot I'm guessing you haven't understood the protest properly either?

[FakePlasticTeaLeaves]

Where oh where has OP gone?

[FakePlasticTeaLeaves]

Fitbot - what you chatting about mate? Clothes in general? There are loads of places you can buy clothes for girls that aren't frilly or revealing. Or just stick them in boys clothes.

[Sirzy]

So fitbot you don't like gender stereotypes for clothing yet you think these students are wrong to fight against gender stereotyping of their uniform? Not following your logic!

[Mulberry72]

Goodness me, OP!

You really cocked that up didn't you?!

[twattymctwatterson]

OP's realised she absolutely fucked it and won't be back

[FitBot]

Fake No I can't put her in boys clothes as they are way too baggy for her body shape, she is tall and very skinny. Most other shops sell cutesy princessy flowery girls stuff and cool and comfy boys clothes featuring adventure motives too.

WorraLiberty you're guessing wrong. Men don't wear shorts at the workplace whereas wearing skirts and dresses and of course trousers is part of standard dress codes across the country. Schools prepare children for this which is why most don't allow shorts as part of secondary school uniform.


The protest is ridiculous.

[Dawndonnaagain]

The protest isn't ridiculous. Men don't wear shorts to work, well, that would depend on the job, wouldn't it. Apart from which, these are boys, they are at school, not work and wearing shorts is not an unreasonable request. The school can quite reasonably suspend 'training for the workplace' type ideals for a few days each summer. In fact it's utterly ridiculous that they didn't.

[WorraLiberty]

And you agree with these sexist dress codes?

That's your prerogative but I'm really glad the children (who are afterall the workforce of the future), are willing to challenge it.

[Sirzy]

But fit - all you have done again is highlight the inequality in the workplace. If knee length skirts/dresses are deemed suitable for work then why aren't knee length smart shorts?

Why does anywhere need gender specific dress codes? Why can people not just select the options which are comfy for them?

[FakePlasticTeaLeaves]

Fitbot I agree that there is definitely a lot of flowery, frilly clothing for girls and more variety would be ace, but at the same time I really don't struggle to find other options.

In terms of preparing for life, the guys in my office wear shorts. Longer shorts can look very smart in a school uniform, and a lot of schools have them. I simply can't get my head around you thinking it's fine that boys will be uncomfortable during their school days, incase they have to wear trousers in a future office they may or may not work in.

[Gileswithachainsaw]

Wow someone missed the point. Food on the boys I say. And they did also say it was unfair girls froze in winter in skirts too.

All aspects of uniform should be able to he worn by all students.

But they do need to be male and female appropriate. In that the default "unisex" cut is male. Ergo it looks ok on men nut not women.

The items should be cut accordingly remembering busy shapes are different and both penises and breasts need to have room.in said items of clothing without the wearer looking like they cane dressed in a duvet cover or have squeezed I to their baby brothers stuff just to have it d it their body shapes. You cannot have clothing that fits both men and women properly post puberty.

[FitBot]

I understand the OP as "most of the time girls and women are disadvantaged in almost every aspect in society including general dress code and what sort of women's clothes are socially acceptable. Overall boys and men have it easier and generally their dress code is much comfortable and practical."

This is why I must say I can't get worked up about teenage boys protesting for their right to wear shorts at school for 2.5. hot days a year. I have absolutely nothing against boys wearing skirts in general if that's what they want to do but it would be nice if at the same time as pushing the boundaries wrt gender stereotypical clothing they'd become aware of their own male privileges.

"But fit - all you have done again is highlight the inequality in the workplace. If knee length skirts/dresses are deemed suitable for work then why aren't knee length smart shorts? Why does anywhere need gender specific dress codes? Why can people not just select the options which are comfy for them?"

Fuck knows why I didn't make the rules. I'd quite like to rock up at the office in my leggins baggy shirt and flip flops at work. I detest work wear. In actual fact I really dislike school skirts too, which is probably why boys changing into their sister's and girl friends' skirts makes me think they haven't quite thought the whole gendered clothing through, skirts are really quite impractical.

Interesting that people are up in arms against the op. They obviously feel very strongly about their sons being genuinely disadvantaged.

[LittleBooInABox]

I'm all for it. Equality works both ways.

They weren't allowed to wear shorts, so said skirts then. Fair point.

Most schools I know allow girls to wear trousers, unless all girls school.

[FakePlasticTeaLeaves]

fitbot - I don't have a son, but I'm what I am genuinely down for is equality. So I have no problem in fighting for both girls and boys to feel comfortable, regardless of any other male privilege boys have.