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To be glad that *some* police forces are going to tackle the dangerous overtaking of cyclists?

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GilMartin · 19/01/2017 09:46

And that I live in one of the areas trying this out?

road.cc/content/news/215826-close-pass-policing-could-be-rolled-out-16-forces-yours-one

Whilst I don't think it will tackle every dick who flies past with millimeters to spare or those who deliberately target cyclists with punishment passes, it will hopefully raise enough awareness amongst those who act carelessly rather than meliciously.*

  • Yes, I know some cyclists can ride badly, not have lights and have earphones on and run read lights and yes I support efforts to tackle that too. It isn't an either or situation.
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MuseumOfCurry · 20/01/2017 19:36

3rd party insurance for cyclists costs about £20 per year - that is about the same as an admin charge for changing the address on your car insurance - what does that tell you about the amount people are claiming due to all the life threatening /property damaging accidents that cyclists are involved in?

You are aware that cyclists don't have license plates and are entirely untraceable so when one hits your car it is impossible to claim on their insurance?

My best guess is the only cyclists that are ever held to account for their infractions are those who are incapacitated by injury in the case of collision.

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sohelpmegoad · 20/01/2017 17:54

Carefree, your list of things cyclists do, Ive seen just as many car drivers do all those things including driving on pavements, they are inconsiderate people, regardless of their transport.

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iLoveCoffeeAndChocolate2017 · 20/01/2017 16:53

No @Carefreeeee I'm in no way jealous- not in the slightest 😆
I'm just one of those people who adheres to the rules of the road.... one can only assume you do run red lights because you think it's clever? Smh!!!!

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CHJR · 20/01/2017 15:30

A lot of the rules governing cars and bicycles are not reciprocal. Case in point, this one about leaving room when passing I wish cyclists felt obliged to leave that much space when passing my car! But I live in London there's no way cyclists would ever be able to weave through traffic in that case, which would undercut the whole point of cycling.

It's true that one problem with cyclists is that they aren't one homogenous mass, which means they can be very unpredictable to other road users -- I mean, mostly cars all move at the same speed and at a steady speed, but some cyclists are all in cycling gear and race past, others are invisible on their Santander bikes (crap lights, what was TFL thinking?) or wobble by in a sit-up-and-beg bike with high heels and quite possibly a child on the back. And anyone who rides a bike knows why cyclists tend to dislike stopping at crossings: it forces you to lose momentum and to shift your balance, and it makes you worry about the purblind car driver behind you.

When I am riding my bike, I find car drivers annoying and fear for my life. But when I am driving my car, though of course I slow for cyclists (and stop for pedestrians), I do get annoyed! And let's not even go into my habit of darting across the road when I'm a pedestrian. In our old roads there just isn't enough space for everyone.

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carefreeeee · 20/01/2017 13:19

3rd party insurance for cyclists costs about £20 per year - that is about the same as an admin charge for changing the address on your car insurance - what does that tell you about the amount people are claiming due to all the life threatening /property damaging accidents that cyclists are involved in?

Yes it would be good if people were responsible for their actions. Some of those that annoy me most in life are people parking on pavements, not picking up after their dogs, dropping litter, being drunk and puking/fighting in the street, being obnoxious on planes, jumping the queue in supermarkets, and irresponsible cyclists.

But none of these are life threatening in the way that poor driving is.

Actually I have an idea - compulsory insurance for drunk people!

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carefreeeee · 20/01/2017 13:18

Can I ask why you are shocked when people jump red lights on their bikes? Is it because you are jealous that you can't do it in a car? Or is it because there are regular accidents caused by it? I think it's probably the former! If you can't beat 'em, join 'em! Wink

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iLoveCoffeeAndChocolate2017 · 20/01/2017 13:05

My original point being that everyone be made accountable for their actions, why is that wrong? I understand they are more vulnerable- like motorcyclists- but that's a cycle users risk at the end of the day... and I see cyclists run red lights regularly where I live.... and I think it's shocking.

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carefreeeee · 20/01/2017 12:57
  • 'Idiot' cyclists do not generally put lives at risk

    Never seen 1 go full speed down a pavement then?
    Never seen 1 go through a crossing without slowing?
    Never seen 1 go through a red light?

    All these put others lives in danger and all I'm saying is they should be registered so people can report*

    You have missed the point I was trying to make.
    Yes cyclists do stupid things (I'd argue they have more incentive not to that someone enclosed in a safe metal box though!). Yes they can be very annoying.

    But if one hits you you are very unlikely to die (the number of pedestrians killed by cyclists annually is in single figures. There are very few drivers killed by cyclists running red lights, driving on pavements or doing anything else). Whereas people die every day in this country as a result of cars.

    Therefore there does not need to be harsh punishment or enforcement for cycling misdemeanours - because although annoying and possibly counting as antisocial behaviours, they are not life threatening. Obviously is the antisocial behaviour/annoyance factor is high the police can target the relevant areas and deal with it as they would for groups of yobbos/drunks/any other annoying group.
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whatsthecomingoverthehill · 20/01/2017 12:47

The police do fine cyclists who do those things. Just as they fine car drivers who speed or use mobile phones but it doesn't seem to stop people doing it.

And I don't quite know why you think a safety scheme for all cyclists shouldn't happen because of the actions of some cyclists.

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Elphame · 20/01/2017 12:33

I'm fully in favour of this as long as they also start to prosecute the cyclists who jump red lights, cycle of pavements and don't display lights at night.

The number around here who cycle at night down unlit narrow lanes in dark clothing and no lights ( not even reflectors in some cases) beggars belief.

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whatsthecomingoverthehill · 20/01/2017 12:15

What are you grinning at?

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PrivatePike · 20/01/2017 12:14

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whatsthecomingoverthehill · 20/01/2017 12:10

If it's procyclist on here I dread to think what it's like elsewhere.

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iLoveCoffeeAndChocolate2017 · 20/01/2017 11:57

LOL there's quite a few of them 😂

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PerpetualStudent · 20/01/2017 09:23

Oh, you have a MEME. Well now I see your position is valid.

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megletthesecond · 20/01/2017 07:14

Yanbu.

Sadly our roads are too small for cyclists and cars, we need huge investment and thousands of new cycle lanes added. A poor cyclist will always come off worse when there's an incident. I only cycle on off road cycle paths and empty footpaths (as do our local police who say hello as we pass), I daren't risk my life on the roads.

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whatsthecomingoverthehill · 20/01/2017 07:01

Yeh it's abundantly clear what your attitude towards cyclists is.

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iLoveCoffeeAndChocolate2017 · 19/01/2017 23:03

Just sayin...

To be glad that *some* police forces are going to tackle the  dangerous overtaking of cyclists?
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WantToRunAgain · 19/01/2017 22:28

*impatient

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WantToRunAgain · 19/01/2017 22:28

The keyboard warriors who display such aggression to cyclists may be partly the reason that cyclists are subjected to so much vile behaviour nowadays.

The constant crap that is spouted about cyclists and the minimalising of the dangerous driving that kills dozens of cyclists every year is frightening.

Cyclists daft behaviour can in no way be compared to drivers - it's absolute nonsense to suggest otherwise. Most cyclists are drivers so we pay tax anyway. And yes I do sometimes jump on the pavement if the option is that or being mown down by yet another inpatient fucking driver.

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iLoveCoffeeAndChocolate2017 · 19/01/2017 22:20

Lol... Nevermind eh....

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whatsthecomingoverthehill · 19/01/2017 22:09

If there was a "flagrant disregard for other's safety" then that would be backed up by statistics showing how dangerous cyclists were. You don't legislate things just for the sake of it, particularly as there would be significant negative effects (reduction in numbers of people cycling which further marginalises it as a form of transport, reduced health benefits etc).

And can I ask again, what tax are you talking about?

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iLoveCoffeeAndChocolate2017 · 19/01/2017 22:03

My partner is a biker- I show a lot of courtesy to bikers and cyclists alike- and I drive a car....
Demonstrating safety awareness and having insurance is a way of safeguarding.... and I'm very curious as to why anyone would disagree with taking the time to acquire these? Other than a flagrant disregard for others' safety. It's not about whether a cycle causes more damage.... And as for tax- use the road- pay for it- we have to.

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whatsthecomingoverthehill · 19/01/2017 21:56

There we go again treating cyclists as one homogenous group. So you don't care about me cycling on the road because other cyclists go on the pavement? (And yes, pavement cyclists piss me off too. I walk as well.)

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